pride4jc1222 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sinister said: You think Rich Flex will be more remembered than Anti-Hero? despite it basically being out the top 40 of BB and Anti-Hero is still top 10? No, but I can assure you that RF will be more remembered than Like Crazy. Just like Bad Habits and KMM weren't as big as Stay or G4u (the songs that blocked them), but they are definitely more remembered than '#1 hit' Permission To Dance.
Capruni Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 hours ago, NewStanner said: @Sscorpionn you were actually right, the recalibration took the effect since Kill Bill did 93m on the radio (they mentioned it in a different article) and was predicted to do 97.2m Without it: LN 281 KB 283 As i thought! The Levitating situation happened to KB, what a shame…
pride4jc1222 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Green said: The last country year-end #1 was Faith Hill (Breathe) I don't think Last Night will get enough pop airplay to snatch the year-end #1. Maybe top 3 after Kill Bill and Flowers 1. Kill Bill 2. Flowers 3. Last Night 4. Anti-hero Don't forget that Last Night also has Country radio. Even if doesn't go that high on Pop, it can make up that difference with a lot of room to grow on country. Plus, LN is stable at 35M streams per week, and the streaming gap between it and KB will continue to widen. There is still about half of the tracking year remaining, more than enough time for LN to catch KB.
Sscorpionn Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, NewStanner said: Yeah, that's why I stopped taking it so seriously like two years ago after the whole Butter mess Hot 100 is (sometimes) fun to follow, but that's about it. They let BTS have six () fraud #1s, yet robbed the two mega smash hits that actually deserved the top spot, that's literally sad They let them do it because it brings a lot of clicks and publicity to billboard. I am also 100% sure someone higher up within billboard is heavily anti-Palestine because the last minute identical sabotages against Dua and SZA is definitely not a coincidence
family.guy123 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Selena Gomez, The Weeknd, Zayn Wonder why such a fraudulent organization is so popular. Bring back rolling stone charts!
pride4jc1222 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Selena Gomez, The Weeknd, Zayn Wonder why such a fraudulent organization is so popular. Bring back rolling stone charts! I agree, the Rolling Stone chart did a better job of reflecting what was popular.
Sscorpionn Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, NewStanner said: Yeah, the tweet with the top 10 when Jimin debuted at #1 has 324.8k likes, while the top 10 from the previous week only had 2,691 likes, so it's obviously all about that And there's definitely something weird going on with the whole anti-Palestine thing indeed. Dua supports Palestine and? Billboard took a few days to remove her sales and then lowered the radio. SZA supports Palestine and? After chart data posted a tweet about Kill Bill challenging for the top spot on Hot 100, the very next day the recalibration happens. This can't be a coincidence It definitely is not just a coincidence. Billboard has no transparency at all and changes/bends rules and metrics whenever and however it pleases. Let me not say too much tough because they already locked my thread for pointing out the obvious.
Sscorpionn Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, NewStanner said: Your thread shouldn't have been locked at all, but I suppose some people can't accept the potential truth. The tea is that Billboard is a fraud Exactly. It’s making me think about how many artists they’ve possibly sabotaged back in the days without anyone knowing because data wasn’t available for everyone to see as it is today. We need an immediate investigation!
brianc33710 Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Green said: The last country year-end #1 was Faith Hill (Breathe) I don't think Last Night will get enough pop airplay to snatch the year-end #1. Maybe top 3 after Kill Bill and Flowers 1. Kill Bill 2. Flowers 3. Last Night 4. Anti-hero Breathe & Need You Now both finished #1 YE Airplay, though Breathe never weekly radio either. Need You Now, #2 2 wk weekly peak finished #2 YE behind Tic Toc 2010
brianc33710 Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 17 hours ago, NewStanner said: @Sscorpionn you were actually right, the recalibration took the effect since Kill Bill did 93m on the radio (they mentioned it in a different article) and was predicted to do 97.2m Without it: LN 281 KB 283 Wow! This was close. I like Last Night but feel bad BF got so close 2×, missing behind AH by just 1 point earlier in '23. That being said MediaBase is a separate entity BB "borrows" for airplay. So BB wasn't necessarily behind MBs reweighting.
pride4jc1222 Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 What’s Behind Peso Pluma’s Hot 100 Takeover? This week's Five Burning Questions looks at the rising regional Mexican star whose hits are blanketing the Billboard Hot 100 this week. 4/11/2023 By Griselda Flores, Jason Lipshutz, Isabela Raygoza, Jessica Roiz, Andrew Unterberger If you don’t yet know the name Peso Pluma, now would be a good time to start learning. The rising Mexican corridos singer-songwriter, who had little Billboard chart history to speak of prior to 2023, notches a stunning five separate songs on the Hot 100 this week — all without so much as a debut album to his credit. The burgeoning 23-year-old star can be found on the April 15 chart at No. 17 (“Ella Baila Sola” with Eslabon Armado), No. 26 (“La Bebe” with Yng Lvcas), No. 63 (“AMG” with Gabito Ballesteros and Natanael Cano), No. 64 (“PRC” with Natanael Cano) and No. 65 (the solo “Por Las Noches”). What’s more, he also lands just outside the Hot 100 this week with two more releases: “El Azul” alongside Junior H and “Igualito a Mi Apá” with Fuerza Regida. How did Peso Pluma become such a prolific hitmaker? And how big might he still get from here? Billboard staffers answer these questions and more below. 1. Despite having no Billboard Hot 100 history before this year, Peso Pluma notches five songs on the Billboard Hot 100 this week — behind only Morgan Wallen (and tied with SZA and Luke Combs) for the most of any artist. On a scale from 1-10, how surprised are you at how big he’s gotten this quickly? Griselda Flores: It’s an 8 for me. I’m surprised because Peso Pluma is relatively a new artist. But looking at the bigger picture, Peso Pluma’s takeover reflects the growth that Mexican music has been experiencing over the past few years. We’ve been reporting a ton about how the genre has experienced a renaissance of some sort thanks to a new generation of singer-songwriters, such as Natanael Cano, Junior H and Eslabon Armado. In comes Peso with an unmatched swag and confidence, and he’s collaborating with all the young acts that came before him (including the three I just mentioned), plus artists that aren’t regional Mexican, including Ovy on the Drums and Nicki Nicole. It’s a strategy we hadn’t seen before. Typically, these acts stick to their genre for collaborations at the beginning of their career and don’t start collaborating with artists outside of their genre until much later. For Peso, it’s all happening at the same time and that only boosts his presence in every single space. Jason Lipshutz: A 9. The difference between a promising new artist and a surefire new star is often an issue of quantity: instead of having one song bubble up to the mainstream, multiple tracks coalesce around an intriguing voice being invested in by the general public. As a regional Mexican performer with modern production flourishes and dalliances with reggaeton, Peso Pluma’s sound and approach are refreshing — but most new artists simply can’t score five simultaneous Hot 100 entries! The sheer number of chart hits Peso Pluma currently boasts suggests that he’s not just enjoying a fruitful moment, but about to join the A-list of popular music. Isabela Raygoza: 4. It’s very impressive! But I’m not super surprised because there are several artists that have helped position the new corridos scene for the next superstar to take over. It was just a matter of, “who will step up to the plate (and kill it) for this sound we’ve helped build the foundation for?” Artists like Eslabon Armado, Natanael Cano, and Junior H have been paving the way for a few years now (remember, only a few years ago even Bad Bunny was still relatively unknown in the mainstream). Plus, Peso Pluma has collaborated with most of these acts, which boosted his level of exposure. Also keep in mind that we’ve also seen a variety of artists within the “corridos urbanos” landscape achieve similar success, like Chino Pacas, who landed at No. 84 for the first time two weeks ago, so this is certainly a start of a bigger movement booming. Jessica Roiz: 10 (and then some!): To be frank, I wasn’t too aware of who Peso Pluma was until recently — otherwise, I would have suggested him for our “23 Latin Artists to Watch in 2023” list. Nonetheless, for an emerging artist who dropped his debut single in the midst of the pandemic, his growth is indeed surprising — but doesn’t come as a shocker (if that makes any sense). He has a relatable personality, a mature mentality, and signature raspy vocals that have all played a big factor into his success. Andrew Unterberger: At least a nine. We just don’t see artists from pretty much any genre blow up this widely this quickly — especially with one single at a time, without even an album to collect them all — and we certainly don’t see it from the regional Mexican music world (which, again, had never even launched a single Hot 100 hit before two years ago). Times and tides are changing quickly, and Peso Pluma is here and ready to ride the wave. 2. What do you attribute the speed of Peso Pluma’s rise to? How is he already at the stage where seemingly any song he’s on becomes an automatic breakout hit? Griselda Flores: Definitely collaborations inside and outside of the genre. His early collaborations with Natanael Cano and Luis R. Conriquez were key to his rise. Both Cano and Conriquez have very different audiences — Cano is more urban-leaning while Conriquez is a bonafide corridos exponent — so Pluma was introduced to those different audiences at once. He’s sticking to that formula with his new collaborations — most recently Becky G and Blessd. Jason Lipshutz: Simply put, Peso Pluma does not sound like any other artist in popular Spanish-language music: he operates primarily in regional Mexican, but his voice is malleable, he can succeed on his own as well as with other artists, and none of his hits have flashy marketing rollouts or viral-primed hooks. He’s just a singular presence as a singer and rapper, his voice capable of achieving a cool grittiness but also navigating light, hummable melodies. And because his success can be chalked up to an overall presence instead of a single-song flash point, I’d expect him to be around for a while. Jessica Roiz: It’s evident that Pluma has a very distinct style and that he was able to secure collabs with acts such as Luis R. Conriquez so early on in his career. But I think what ultimately got him on the radar was when he was taken under Natanael Cano’s wings, with whom he dropped “AMG” (alonside newcomer Gabito Ballesteros) and “PRC.” After that, it was just a domino effect, where even artists outside the Música Mexicana realm (Nicki Nicole, Becky G, Ovy on the Drums, Blessd) wanted to work with him. Isabela Raygoza: Let’s face it, we’ve been bitten by the Peso Pluma bug, and we foresee no immediate cure. JK! The kid has it — the cool swagger, a unique vocal registry, the attitude, and his unflinching lyrics. He chooses wisely who he collaborates with, and that’s also helping elevate his star. Just a few weeks ago, he killed it alongside Becky G — the Inglewood singer is now stepping into singing corridos urbanos! (She has an album underway that’ll focus specifically on this genre, and that says a lot about the rise of the rugged, acoustic cross-border sound.) We needed a poster boy and Peso Pluma is filling that role with gusto. Andrew Unterberger: I’d be lying if I said I totally understood what was going on here yet. I like the songs and he seems like a cool guy, but the speed and trajectory of his popularity growth is not something I’d be able to explain convincingly to someone who’d never heard of him. I’m definitely intrigued enough that I look forward to getting to know and understand him better, though — as both an artist and as a rising pop star. 3. Of the five tracks he’s currently charting on the Hot 100, do any of them seem like a more obvious hit than the others? Do you expect any one of them to keep growing and take him to the next level? Griselda Flores: I think all will keep growing for sure but the obvious hit to me is “Ella Baila Sola” with Eslabon Armado. It’s the song I like the most because I’m also a big fan of Eslabon Armado but out of all his collaborators, Eslabon is the act that has had the most chart presence. The sierreño band made history last year when their album Nostalgia became the first top 10-charting regional Mexican album ever on the Billboard 200. It’s two powerhouses coming together so it’ll be tough to beat. This week, it hits No. 1 on Hot Latin Songs — the first leader for both Peso and Eslabon. Jason Lipshutz: The obvious answer is “Ella Baila Sola” given its chart movement and streaming numbers, but I’m still bullish on “La Bebe,” a reggaetón change-up for Peso Pluma that’s gentle yet overpowering. As we approach the summertime, “La Bebe” sounds ready to chew up a whole lot of beach-playlist minutes, for both Peso Pluma fans as well as casual listeners entranced by its two-step thump. Isabela Raygoza: “AMG” is proving to have lasting power with 11 weeks on the Hot 100, and anything with a Natanael Cano credit is bound to be great — Cano is a pioneer of corridos tumbados and has an unmatched ear for identifying new acts to work with. “Ella Baila Sola” comes in hard with a fiery guitar melody that instantly captivates from start to finish, and the vocal interplay between Peso and Eslabon Armando sounds seamless; the horns at the end are the icing on the cake. I don’t think we can predict which of the batch will make the Greatest Latin Songs of All Time list at this stage, but they sure are shaking things up in the scene right now. Jessica Roiz: “AMG” holds a special place for the artist, especially after telling Billboard that this is the first song one should listen to to “know all about Peso Pluma” — I think this single and “PRC” are the most representative of his craft. “Por Las Noches” is a beautiful song that’s laced with Nicki’s soft, dulcet vocals, and “La Bebe” finds Peso on an infectious reggaetón track — one that’s currently all the rage on social media. However, I think that if being No. 1 song on the Hot Latin Songs chart this week is any indication, the Eslabon Armado-assisted “Ella Baila Sola” is the most notable of the bunch and will only continue to grow. Andrew Unterberger: The clipped trumpets and woozy trombones of “PRC” definitely make it my favorite song of Peso Pluma’s so far — but it does seem like “Ella Baila Sola” is the right song at the right time (with the right collaborators) to take him to the next level. Probably won’t be long until the next song comes along to take him to the level above that, either. 4. Regional Mexican has obviously had a major chart breakthrough over the past two years — and one that only seems to keep growing — but despite its crossover success, it has yet to really punctuate mainstream awareness for most of the United States. Do you think Peso Pluma is that kind of Bad Bunny-type artist who might be able to get the genre to that level of unavoidable visibility? Griselda Flores: That’s a really tough question. I think Peso Pluma has a lot of potential and he’s already taken the genre to another level with his chart success. I think the next few months will be telling for Peso Pluma. I don’t think he’s peaked yet and I’m excited to see what else he can do. He’s definitely up for the challenge, as he told Billboard for his Latin Artist on the Rise interview. Jason Lipshutz: It’s hard to compare any artist to Bad Bunny and the effect he’s had on the visibility of Spanish-language music in North America and around the world, but I do think regional Mexican is about to gain a lot more listeners thanks to Peso Pluma, placing an exclamation point on a fruitful years-long run for the genre. While it may be reductive to describe a 23-year-old as the new face of a time-honored sound, his stardom will absolutely unlock more regional Mexican music for those who are curious and willing to do a deep dive — and hopefully, produce even more crossover stars from that world over the next few years. Isabela Raygoza: It’s too early to tell. One telltale sign for Bunny — besides his chart-topping success early in his career — was that he was able to sell-out arenas across the United States in 2019, which became a dead giveaway of his ever-expanding draw, especially when he continued growing that momentum year after year. We know Peso Pluma has a fervent fanbase online, but can that translate to physical massive appeal? He recently announced his first national tour slated for this summer. If he’s able to sell out the bigger cities, then I think that’ll indicate a new moment for his career and his star power on a wider scale. It’s also a matter of how prolific he’ll continue to be. (Remember, Bunny dropped three albums in 2020.) Jessica Roiz: Bad Bunny is an entire force to be reckoned with, and I believe Peso Pluma is following the correct steps by collaborating with renowned and emerging artists just like Bunny did at the beginning of his career. But I think it’s too soon to say. What I do feel is that there’s a refreshing wave of very innovative Mexican artists who, collectively, have pushed forward the Música Mexicana movement: Grupo Frontera, Fuerza Regida, Yahritza y Su Esencia, Ivan Cornejo, DannyLux, Victor Cibrian and Peso, to name just a few. Andrew Unterberger: The early evidence certainly suggests it, doesn’t it? It took Bad Bunny years to get to the commercial level that Peso Pluma has gotten to in a couple of months — and while some of that is timing and circumstance, you can practically the see the cracks in the dam getting bigger and bigger with each new hit of his. It might not be bursting just yet, but it ain’t likely holding out for too much longer either. 5. If you were working on Peso Pluma’s team right now as he had all the momentum in the world, what would you be advising him to do with his career in order to properly take advantage of it? Griselda Flores: For starters, keep collaborating. I think that’s been major for Peso. He’s already touring so that’ll definitely boost him even more. I guess I would say his next move should be to drop an album. The last set he released was Efectos Secundarios in 2021 so I think to take advantage of this momentum and to gain more streams, it’s time for an album. Jason Lipshutz: Keep releasing new music! Peso Pluma is on such a hot streak right now that seemingly everything he releases becomes a crossover hit with nine-figure streams. Although he’s building for the long haul, artists rarely go on this type of heater — so supply enough material to meet sky-high demand, and enjoy the moment. Isabela Raygoza: Stay focused, ignore online bullying, stay away from drugs (or as much as possible). Take time for you. Fame can be fleeting, so always stay in the present and keep envisioning a greater future to continue manifesting. Your life might never go back to what it was, but I advise you to always keep your feet on the ground and thank those who got you there, your team, your fans, your supporters. Jessica Roiz: TIKTOK! Almost all of the tracks he’s released are going viral on the app. He boasts nearly two million followers, yet only has a few posts. I think it’s crucial for him to be more active on the app and connect with fans by reacting to videos, doing the dance trends, and whatnot. Andrew Unterberger: Slow down and start thinking about an album. People may tell you 2023 pop is a singles’ market, but the way you build a real career as a hitmaker is by establishing yourself as an albums artist; just ask Benito himself, who could go the rest of his career without another conventional Hit Single and still run the game with his LP releases. Get one of those under his belt — without shortcutting the process or compromising his artistry — and you can be damn sure the world will stand up and take
family.guy123 Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said: What’s Behind Peso Pluma’s Hot 100 Takeover? This week's Five Burning Questions looks at the rising regional Mexican star whose hits are blanketing the Billboard Hot 100 this week. 4/11/2023 By Griselda Flores, Jason Lipshutz, Isabela Raygoza, Jessica Roiz, Andrew Unterberger If you don’t yet know the name Peso Pluma, now would be a good time to start learning. The rising Mexican corridos singer-songwriter, who had little Billboard chart history to speak of prior to 2023, notches a stunning five separate songs on the Hot 100 this week — all without so much as a debut album to his credit. The burgeoning 23-year-old star can be found on the April 15 chart at No. 17 (“Ella Baila Sola” with Eslabon Armado), No. 26 (“La Bebe” with Yng Lvcas), No. 63 (“AMG” with Gabito Ballesteros and Natanael Cano), No. 64 (“PRC” with Natanael Cano) and No. 65 (the solo “Por Las Noches”). What’s more, he also lands just outside the Hot 100 this week with two more releases: “El Azul” alongside Junior H and “Igualito a Mi Apá” with Fuerza Regida. How did Peso Pluma become such a prolific hitmaker? And how big might he still get from here? Billboard staffers answer these questions and more below. 1. Despite having no Billboard Hot 100 history before this year, Peso Pluma notches five songs on the Billboard Hot 100 this week — behind only Morgan Wallen (and tied with SZA and Luke Combs) for the most of any artist. On a scale from 1-10, how surprised are you at how big he’s gotten this quickly? Griselda Flores: It’s an 8 for me. I’m surprised because Peso Pluma is relatively a new artist. But looking at the bigger picture, Peso Pluma’s takeover reflects the growth that Mexican music has been experiencing over the past few years. We’ve been reporting a ton about how the genre has experienced a renaissance of some sort thanks to a new generation of singer-songwriters, such as Natanael Cano, Junior H and Eslabon Armado. In comes Peso with an unmatched swag and confidence, and he’s collaborating with all the young acts that came before him (including the three I just mentioned), plus artists that aren’t regional Mexican, including Ovy on the Drums and Nicki Nicole. It’s a strategy we hadn’t seen before. Typically, these acts stick to their genre for collaborations at the beginning of their career and don’t start collaborating with artists outside of their genre until much later. For Peso, it’s all happening at the same time and that only boosts his presence in every single space. Jason Lipshutz: A 9. The difference between a promising new artist and a surefire new star is often an issue of quantity: instead of having one song bubble up to the mainstream, multiple tracks coalesce around an intriguing voice being invested in by the general public. As a regional Mexican performer with modern production flourishes and dalliances with reggaeton, Peso Pluma’s sound and approach are refreshing — but most new artists simply can’t score five simultaneous Hot 100 entries! The sheer number of chart hits Peso Pluma currently boasts suggests that he’s not just enjoying a fruitful moment, but about to join the A-list of popular music. Isabela Raygoza: 4. It’s very impressive! But I’m not super surprised because there are several artists that have helped position the new corridos scene for the next superstar to take over. It was just a matter of, “who will step up to the plate (and kill it) for this sound we’ve helped build the foundation for?” Artists like Eslabon Armado, Natanael Cano, and Junior H have been paving the way for a few years now (remember, only a few years ago even Bad Bunny was still relatively unknown in the mainstream). Plus, Peso Pluma has collaborated with most of these acts, which boosted his level of exposure. Also keep in mind that we’ve also seen a variety of artists within the “corridos urbanos” landscape achieve similar success, like Chino Pacas, who landed at No. 84 for the first time two weeks ago, so this is certainly a start of a bigger movement booming. Jessica Roiz: 10 (and then some!): To be frank, I wasn’t too aware of who Peso Pluma was until recently — otherwise, I would have suggested him for our “23 Latin Artists to Watch in 2023” list. Nonetheless, for an emerging artist who dropped his debut single in the midst of the pandemic, his growth is indeed surprising — but doesn’t come as a shocker (if that makes any sense). He has a relatable personality, a mature mentality, and signature raspy vocals that have all played a big factor into his success. Andrew Unterberger: At least a nine. We just don’t see artists from pretty much any genre blow up this widely this quickly — especially with one single at a time, without even an album to collect them all — and we certainly don’t see it from the regional Mexican music world (which, again, had never even launched a single Hot 100 hit before two years ago). Times and tides are changing quickly, and Peso Pluma is here and ready to ride the wave. 2. What do you attribute the speed of Peso Pluma’s rise to? How is he already at the stage where seemingly any song he’s on becomes an automatic breakout hit? Griselda Flores: Definitely collaborations inside and outside of the genre. His early collaborations with Natanael Cano and Luis R. Conriquez were key to his rise. Both Cano and Conriquez have very different audiences — Cano is more urban-leaning while Conriquez is a bonafide corridos exponent — so Pluma was introduced to those different audiences at once. He’s sticking to that formula with his new collaborations — most recently Becky G and Blessd. Jason Lipshutz: Simply put, Peso Pluma does not sound like any other artist in popular Spanish-language music: he operates primarily in regional Mexican, but his voice is malleable, he can succeed on his own as well as with other artists, and none of his hits have flashy marketing rollouts or viral-primed hooks. He’s just a singular presence as a singer and rapper, his voice capable of achieving a cool grittiness but also navigating light, hummable melodies. And because his success can be chalked up to an overall presence instead of a single-song flash point, I’d expect him to be around for a while. Jessica Roiz: It’s evident that Pluma has a very distinct style and that he was able to secure collabs with acts such as Luis R. Conriquez so early on in his career. But I think what ultimately got him on the radar was when he was taken under Natanael Cano’s wings, with whom he dropped “AMG” (alonside newcomer Gabito Ballesteros) and “PRC.” After that, it was just a domino effect, where even artists outside the Música Mexicana realm (Nicki Nicole, Becky G, Ovy on the Drums, Blessd) wanted to work with him. Isabela Raygoza: Let’s face it, we’ve been bitten by the Peso Pluma bug, and we foresee no immediate cure. JK! The kid has it — the cool swagger, a unique vocal registry, the attitude, and his unflinching lyrics. He chooses wisely who he collaborates with, and that’s also helping elevate his star. Just a few weeks ago, he killed it alongside Becky G — the Inglewood singer is now stepping into singing corridos urbanos! (She has an album underway that’ll focus specifically on this genre, and that says a lot about the rise of the rugged, acoustic cross-border sound.) We needed a poster boy and Peso Pluma is filling that role with gusto. Andrew Unterberger: I’d be lying if I said I totally understood what was going on here yet. I like the songs and he seems like a cool guy, but the speed and trajectory of his popularity growth is not something I’d be able to explain convincingly to someone who’d never heard of him. I’m definitely intrigued enough that I look forward to getting to know and understand him better, though — as both an artist and as a rising pop star. 3. Of the five tracks he’s currently charting on the Hot 100, do any of them seem like a more obvious hit than the others? Do you expect any one of them to keep growing and take him to the next level? Griselda Flores: I think all will keep growing for sure but the obvious hit to me is “Ella Baila Sola” with Eslabon Armado. It’s the song I like the most because I’m also a big fan of Eslabon Armado but out of all his collaborators, Eslabon is the act that has had the most chart presence. The sierreño band made history last year when their album Nostalgia became the first top 10-charting regional Mexican album ever on the Billboard 200. It’s two powerhouses coming together so it’ll be tough to beat. This week, it hits No. 1 on Hot Latin Songs — the first leader for both Peso and Eslabon. Jason Lipshutz: The obvious answer is “Ella Baila Sola” given its chart movement and streaming numbers, but I’m still bullish on “La Bebe,” a reggaetón change-up for Peso Pluma that’s gentle yet overpowering. As we approach the summertime, “La Bebe” sounds ready to chew up a whole lot of beach-playlist minutes, for both Peso Pluma fans as well as casual listeners entranced by its two-step thump. Isabela Raygoza: “AMG” is proving to have lasting power with 11 weeks on the Hot 100, and anything with a Natanael Cano credit is bound to be great — Cano is a pioneer of corridos tumbados and has an unmatched ear for identifying new acts to work with. “Ella Baila Sola” comes in hard with a fiery guitar melody that instantly captivates from start to finish, and the vocal interplay between Peso and Eslabon Armando sounds seamless; the horns at the end are the icing on the cake. I don’t think we can predict which of the batch will make the Greatest Latin Songs of All Time list at this stage, but they sure are shaking things up in the scene right now. Jessica Roiz: “AMG” holds a special place for the artist, especially after telling Billboard that this is the first song one should listen to to “know all about Peso Pluma” — I think this single and “PRC” are the most representative of his craft. “Por Las Noches” is a beautiful song that’s laced with Nicki’s soft, dulcet vocals, and “La Bebe” finds Peso on an infectious reggaetón track — one that’s currently all the rage on social media. However, I think that if being No. 1 song on the Hot Latin Songs chart this week is any indication, the Eslabon Armado-assisted “Ella Baila Sola” is the most notable of the bunch and will only continue to grow. Andrew Unterberger: The clipped trumpets and woozy trombones of “PRC” definitely make it my favorite song of Peso Pluma’s so far — but it does seem like “Ella Baila Sola” is the right song at the right time (with the right collaborators) to take him to the next level. Probably won’t be long until the next song comes along to take him to the level above that, either. 4. Regional Mexican has obviously had a major chart breakthrough over the past two years — and one that only seems to keep growing — but despite its crossover success, it has yet to really punctuate mainstream awareness for most of the United States. Do you think Peso Pluma is that kind of Bad Bunny-type artist who might be able to get the genre to that level of unavoidable visibility? Griselda Flores: That’s a really tough question. I think Peso Pluma has a lot of potential and he’s already taken the genre to another level with his chart success. I think the next few months will be telling for Peso Pluma. I don’t think he’s peaked yet and I’m excited to see what else he can do. He’s definitely up for the challenge, as he told Billboard for his Latin Artist on the Rise interview. Jason Lipshutz: It’s hard to compare any artist to Bad Bunny and the effect he’s had on the visibility of Spanish-language music in North America and around the world, but I do think regional Mexican is about to gain a lot more listeners thanks to Peso Pluma, placing an exclamation point on a fruitful years-long run for the genre. While it may be reductive to describe a 23-year-old as the new face of a time-honored sound, his stardom will absolutely unlock more regional Mexican music for those who are curious and willing to do a deep dive — and hopefully, produce even more crossover stars from that world over the next few years. Isabela Raygoza: It’s too early to tell. One telltale sign for Bunny — besides his chart-topping success early in his career — was that he was able to sell-out arenas across the United States in 2019, which became a dead giveaway of his ever-expanding draw, especially when he continued growing that momentum year after year. We know Peso Pluma has a fervent fanbase online, but can that translate to physical massive appeal? He recently announced his first national tour slated for this summer. If he’s able to sell out the bigger cities, then I think that’ll indicate a new moment for his career and his star power on a wider scale. It’s also a matter of how prolific he’ll continue to be. (Remember, Bunny dropped three albums in 2020.) Jessica Roiz: Bad Bunny is an entire force to be reckoned with, and I believe Peso Pluma is following the correct steps by collaborating with renowned and emerging artists just like Bunny did at the beginning of his career. But I think it’s too soon to say. What I do feel is that there’s a refreshing wave of very innovative Mexican artists who, collectively, have pushed forward the Música Mexicana movement: Grupo Frontera, Fuerza Regida, Yahritza y Su Esencia, Ivan Cornejo, DannyLux, Victor Cibrian and Peso, to name just a few. Andrew Unterberger: The early evidence certainly suggests it, doesn’t it? It took Bad Bunny years to get to the commercial level that Peso Pluma has gotten to in a couple of months — and while some of that is timing and circumstance, you can practically the see the cracks in the dam getting bigger and bigger with each new hit of his. It might not be bursting just yet, but it ain’t likely holding out for too much longer either. 5. If you were working on Peso Pluma’s team right now as he had all the momentum in the world, what would you be advising him to do with his career in order to properly take advantage of it? Griselda Flores: For starters, keep collaborating. I think that’s been major for Peso. He’s already touring so that’ll definitely boost him even more. I guess I would say his next move should be to drop an album. The last set he released was Efectos Secundarios in 2021 so I think to take advantage of this momentum and to gain more streams, it’s time for an album. Jason Lipshutz: Keep releasing new music! Peso Pluma is on such a hot streak right now that seemingly everything he releases becomes a crossover hit with nine-figure streams. Although he’s building for the long haul, artists rarely go on this type of heater — so supply enough material to meet sky-high demand, and enjoy the moment. Isabela Raygoza: Stay focused, ignore online bullying, stay away from drugs (or as much as possible). Take time for you. Fame can be fleeting, so always stay in the present and keep envisioning a greater future to continue manifesting. Your life might never go back to what it was, but I advise you to always keep your feet on the ground and thank those who got you there, your team, your fans, your supporters. Jessica Roiz: TIKTOK! Almost all of the tracks he’s released are going viral on the app. He boasts nearly two million followers, yet only has a few posts. I think it’s crucial for him to be more active on the app and connect with fans by reacting to videos, doing the dance trends, and whatnot. Andrew Unterberger: Slow down and start thinking about an album. People may tell you 2023 pop is a singles’ market, but the way you build a real career as a hitmaker is by establishing yourself as an albums artist; just ask Benito himself, who could go the rest of his career without another conventional Hit Single and still run the game with his LP releases. Get one of those under his belt — without shortcutting the process or compromising his artistry — and you can be damn sure the world will stand up and take Morgan Wallen still has more than 5 songs on the Hot 100? Damn.
Sscorpionn Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, NewStanner said: Yeah, there were many weird chard coincidences and multiple stories about how charts were manipulated (like Bee Gees supposedly got a lot of fake #1s, or when in 1974 in the span of two months most of #1s went to the spot and dropped out of the top 10 entirely next week, even tho that hadn't happened before ) Or especially this messy rumor, which is even included in the song's wikipedia article Considering how fraud Billboard can be, I totally believe it ngl What a disgrace! Just straight up fraudulent from the day it was established. How they’ve managed to maintain their credibility to this day is beyond me
seancarter Posted April 12, 2023 Posted April 12, 2023 I must say I didn't expect Flowers to be holding better than Kill Bill on the hot 100.
brianc33710 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 Wow! The BTS Army is angry & actually has "PayolaHot100" trending on Twitter with 150k+ times. They're definitely pissed BB filtered so many of Like Crazys downloads.
Shaner69 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 The thing I find bizzare is billboard just makes up random rules. Dua and SZA both had #1 hits but they change the formula so they don't hit number 1. Meanwhile songs come and go.
Shaner69 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Sscorpionn said: What a disgrace! Just straight up fraudulent from the day it was established. How they’ve managed to maintain their credibility to this day is beyond me I don't want to cause a **** storm but to a lesser degree Mariah is the queen of chart manipulation.
fridayteenage Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Shaner69 said: The thing I find bizzare is billboard just makes up random rules. Dua and SZA both had #1 hits but they change the formula so they don't hit number 1. Meanwhile songs come and go. i mean, the former peaked at #3 spotify and streaming, so
Shaner69 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: i mean, the former peaked at #3 spotify and streaming, so Yeah and went on to be #1 single of the year.
fridayteenage Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shaner69 said: Yeah and went on to be #1 single of the year. you're talking about the weekly chart so
Shaner69 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, fridayteenage said: you're talking about the weekly chart so Doesn't matter it was the #1 single of the year. Weekly charts mean nothing
fridayteenage Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 ok so stop melting down about them then if they mean nothing to you?
Shaner69 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 Thanfully willow my favorite Taylor song doesn't hold the record for worst drop ever.
Hot Volcano Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 45 minutes ago, Shaner69 said: The thing I find bizzare is billboard just makes up random rules. Dua and SZA both had #1 hits but they change the formula so they don't hit number 1. Meanwhile songs come and go. SZA and her dumbass team released the song during the Xmas season so I dont even feel sorry for them.
Shaner69 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 I'm just being honest but omg. I forced people to listen to this. The remix is better then the orginal. I love this and blown away. This blows me away
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