discussion Superhero movies (Marvel, DC) are flopping, why?

[ks_dollar]

The geepee is finally giving up the tired, stale, boring, kids' genre

 

[mathekr]

The GP wants the X-MenVerse, not these c-list characters from Marvel

[theoghon]

They are dumbing down comic book movies too much, I really hope Disney's acquisition has nothing to do with it cause...MESS

 

Comic book films DO have the potential to be transcendental and profound/have a deep message but Marvel, a big stakeholder doesn't want to get serious, I mean at some point everyone gets sick on pointless cringey one-liners.

 

Also the dumbing down and comedy-fication of characters such as Thor over the years, he's basically a different individual from Thor 1

[loveisdead9582]

There’s a couple of reasons. 
 

For DC:

• The scripts are lackluster at best
• There was supposed to be this whole big combined universe that kept getting cancelled, scrapped, recast, rewritten, etc
• What marvel did well was making it all one big universe. Viewers were invested. It’s hard to be invested in a story when you know that it’s kind of subpar writing and you have no idea if any potential plot points for sequels will actually happen 

With Marvel

• oversaturation of the market with the quality going down with what seemed like each project. 
• Balancing humor with drama. 
   
• Marvel killed off some of its main cast (heroes and villains). You do need some sort of connection for audiences to want to continue to watch your products. 
   
• The writing has just been bad lately. Marvel phase 1 had some stumbles too so it makes sense that they’re grasping at straws to see what works. The problem is that they launched so much in such a small time they didn’t have time to adapt and change what they needed to in phase 4

 

theres obviously still a market for superhero media, but they need to get on board with its QUALITY over QUANTITY. 

[Lipgloss]

People are saving their coins for Joker 2 FAD 

[Young Volcanoes]

people are tired, this will keep happening until these greedy capitalist corporations allow different more NEW movies to take up the slots of their shitty remakes and superhero movies

[WildAmerican]

i think people just don't give a **** about antman and shazam 

 

call me when avengers, batman or spiderman flops 

[shinyshimmery]

Marvel bc they're stupid and either killed off or wrote out their most established cast (Scarlett, Robert, Chris Evans, Elizabeth Olsen (maybe?)) 

 

DC bc they're even stupider with all of their reboots, also the DC universe is so messed up it doesn't make sense. Hopefully Joker 2 helps it redeem itself. Also, I'm lowkey really glad that Zack Snyder is out of the picture.... his movies were not good. 

 

 

[Blue.]

1 hour ago, Love Drought said:

Not really if we’re talking about box office numbers. DC has been a mess for years. No one expected Shazam, Black Adam, The Suicide Squad to be huge blockbuster hits. They should be worried when their well renowned IPs flop, which is basically Batman and Superman. Joker and The Batman (depending on the success of the Penguin series and the sequel) will keep them afloat for a while. 
 

As for Marvel, Ant-Man has never been huge. Eternals and Shang Chi were never gonna bring in huge numbers. Doctor Strange was probably the only real box office disappointment but 900 million ain’t that bad. The real test will be X-Men and Fantastic Four since those characters are more known to the GP. 

But also none of them had China. People are comparing it to pre MCU ban numbers.

[FlyOnTheWall]

Nature is healing

[JustLikeHoney]

No one cares about these characters. Spiderman and Batman movies are doing fine. 

[Dark Phoenix]

People care for the main characters and having good production value, enough with the generic dumb movie era 

[Smarticle]

Marvel needs to space it out better with all the content they're pushing out and give more time for CGI to be worked on to look good

 

DC needs to stop rebooting **** over and over

[Bears01]

No Spider-Man, no Batman=no box office! 
 

In all seriousness, DCs brand is damaged badly, and Marvel has kinda already peaked, and their movies are getting worse and worse 

[Kisuke]

Marvel will be fine when the big hero movies drop, Antman is one of the least exciting to look at