news Poll: Democrats now sympathize with Palestinians over Israelis for the first time

[Headlock]

15 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

it is, obviously.

 

On 3/19/2023 at 2:39 AM, ProudLBS said:

Any little sympathy I had left vanished 10 days ago when a Palestinian crazy decided to shoot up people on Dizengoff Street while I was on my way there  thankfully I decided to switch shirts last minute

So you're admitting to not having sympathy for victims of terrorist attacks towards Palestinians, and also underscoring your continued flippant attempts at whataboutism in here? 

 

Genuinely, what is your end goal here? If you regard attacks against Israelis as terrorism, and also IDF-sponsored attacks against Palestinians as terrorism, but only feel sympathy for Israelis... are you trying to prove you don't feel empathy towards others unless you are personally affected? Do you just want to go full mask-off?

[ProudLBS]

45 minutes ago, Headlock said:

So you're admitting to not having sympathy for victims of terrorist attacks towards Palestinians

You just pulled that out of your own ass.

 

If from my previous post calling terrorism what it is you didn’t get that I condemn all forms of violence against innocents, that’s on you.

 

What I don’t have any sympathy for is the clownery that became the Palestinian statehood process when they’ve said NO to each and every offer, wrecked 2 countries, called for global intifadas, killed people abroad, shot their shitty Iranian rockets at civilians, etc, all while my taxes fund generous pensions for the families of those who commit terrorist attacks instead of funding the schools and hospitals where they hide their weapons.

Edited March 20, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

You just pulled that out of your own ass.

 

No, it is the natural conclusion from your statements in this thread. You flat out said you lost all sympathy for Palestinians, which is the topic of this thread, and in other post agreed that acts of violence against Palestinians classifies as terrorism.

 

2 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

What I don’t have any sympathy for is the clownery that became the Palestinian statehood process when they’ve said NO to each and every offer, wrecked 2 countries, called for global intifadas, killed people abroad, shot their shitty Iranian rockets at civilians, etc, all while my taxes fund generous pensions for the families of those who commit terrorist attacks instead of funding the schools and hospitals where they hide their weapons.

You aren't even trying to be objective anymore huh 

[ProudLBS]

48 minutes ago, Headlock said:

No, it is the natural conclusion from your statements in this thread. You flat out said you lost all sympathy for Palestinians, which is the topic of this thread, and in other post agreed that acts of violence against Palestinians classifies as terrorism.

Again, if you didn’t bother to read my previous posts properly (the one with the photo in particular) and you couldn’t deduce that I was talking about the cause (statehood) *and I was super explicit* and not the people, that’s on you.

 

If you don’t bother to do the bare minimum, don’t bother quoting me.

 

48 minutes ago, Headlock said:

You aren't even trying to be objective anymore huh 

I’m as objective as someone that was 3-4 minutes away from being shot by a terrorist can be.

Edited March 20, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

53 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Again, if you didn’t bother to read my previous posts properly (the one with the photo in particular) and you couldn’t deduce that I was talking about the cause (statehood) *and I was super explicit* and not the people, that’s on you.

 

Topic of thread: sympathy for Palestinians, e.g. people

Your post in response: "Any little sympathy I had left vanished 10 days ago when a Palestinian crazy decided to shoot up people on Dizengoff Street while I was on my way there  thankfully I decided to switch shirts last minute"

 

You explicitly stated you lost sympathy for Palestinian people due to a personal event involving Palestinians. Like, there truly is no other way to draw a conclusion here 

 

57 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

If you don’t bother to do the bare minimum, don’t bother quoting me.

 

Bare minimum: directly quoting both the thread topic and your post 

[ProudLBS]

12 minutes ago, Headlock said:

You explicitly stated you lost sympathy for Palestinian people due to a personal event involving Palestinians. Like, there truly is no other way to draw a conclusion here 

Even this graph from the OP uses the term “Palestinians” as a stand-in for the future state because nobody has the time to call it “Occupied Palestinian Territories” like the UN and other organizations do 

 

 

If you wanna be obtuse, again, that’s on you, but stop quoting me unless you have something meaningful to say.

 

43 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Bare minimum: directly quoting both the thread topic and your post 

Bare minimum: reading my posts with where I used the word “cause” (aka statehood) explicitly before pulling problems out of your ass.

[Headlock]

51 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Even this graph from the OP uses the term “Palestinians” as a stand-in for the future state because nobody has the time to call it “Occupied Palestinian Territories” like the UN and other organizations do 

 

 

This is such a gross sentence jfc 

 

52 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

 

 

Bare minimum: reading my posts with where I used the word “cause” (aka statehood) explicitly before pulling problems out of your ass.

The fact that you think your posts exonerate you of my point:

On 3/19/2023 at 2:04 PM, ProudLBS said:

"let's shoot up civilians in Tel Aviv, that'll help our cause"

Which again brings me to my ~meaningful~ point:

On 3/19/2023 at 3:22 PM, ProudLBS said:

Is terrorism against civilians excusable? Yes or no?

You are attempting a gotcha that directly makes your views hypocritical. You are saying you agree violence against civilians is terrorism, you agree that violence against Palestinians is terrorism, and you have been shown that this violence against Palestinians vastly outnumbers violence against Israelis, and is also state sponsored by the IDF.

 

But your conclusions is… to lack any sympathy for Palestine and its people 

Like, congrats once again I guess for just going full mask off since it saves everyone a lot of time, but I’m not sure you’re on the right platform to garner support or sympathy for lacking sympathy for active genocide of Palestinians perpetrated by an ethno-state 

[ProudLBS]

51 minutes ago, Headlock said:

This is such a gross sentence jfc 

well it's the truth 

 

51 minutes ago, Headlock said:

You are saying you agree violence against civilians is terrorism, you agree that violence against Palestinians is terrorism, and you have been shown that this violence against Palestinians vastly outnumbers violence against Israelis, and is also state sponsored by the IDF.

 

But your conclusions is… to lack any sympathy for Palestine and its people 

STOP pulling things out of your ass, I NEVER said that  I was asked about a specific video that meets the criteria for terrorism. Violence, by itself, does not.

 

one last time, my opinions on the subject in a nutshell:

1. discrimination / violence / terrorism against Palestinians (the people: the grandson, the aunt, the neighbor, etc) => bad
2. Palestinian statehood =>  (hopefully one day)

is it that difficult to understand? istg even the OP isn't this dense  

 

51 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Like, congrats once again I guess for just going full mask off since it saves everyone a lot of time, but I’m not sure you’re on the right platform to garner support or sympathy for lacking sympathy for active genocide of Palestinians perpetrated by an ethno-state 

someone would have an aneurysm if they went to a city like Haifa or Acre 

Edited March 20, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

14 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

I was asked about a specific video that meets the criteria for terrorism. Violence, by itself, does not.

This... is worse  

 

14 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

 

1. discrimination / violence / terrorism against Palestinians (the people: the grandson, the aunt, the neighbor, etc) => bad

And yet... *gestures to your posts* 

 

14 hours ago, ProudLBS said:

 

1. Palestinian statehood =>  (hopefully one day)

Kinda seems like you're not really hoping for this 

[ProudLBS]

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

This... is worse  

Change the definition of the word "terrorism" if you don't like it.

 

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

And yet... *gestures to your posts* 

When have I defended discrimination, violence or terrorism against anyone? If I have, please direct me to those posts so I can apologize.

 

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

Kinda seems like you're not really hoping for this 

If Palestinian statehood would solve anything, I'd be the first to support writing them a $100B check. I just don't see it happening anytime soon 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

18 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

When have I defended discrimination, unprovoked violence or terrorism against anyone? If I have, please direct me to those posts so I can apologize.

Not this get-out-jail-free dogwhistle 

[ProudLBS]

16 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Not this get-out-jail-free dogwhistle 

if you punch someone and then they punch you back, I'm sorry, but you asked for it   I edited the post to make it more clear

Edited March 21, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

11 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

if you punch someone and then they punch you back, I'm sorry, but you asked for it  

[brazil]

Israelis literally stole their land (withe the help of the Brits), why is there anyone sympathizing with Israel is the real question.

[ProudLBS]

8 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Totally the case with the shooting in Dizengoff street. People drive tanks to work.

[Headlock]

9 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Totally the case with the shooting in Dizengoff street. People drive tanks to work.

Do you really want to go t!t-for-tat on terrorism here :

 

On 3/19/2023 at 3:15 PM, Communion said:

 

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by Headlock

[ProudLBS]

10 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Do you really want to go t!t-for-tat on terrorism here :

And how many of those were members of Hamas?

Edited March 21, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

17 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

And how many of those were members of Hamas?

aaaaaaaaand here we go again 

Hence my pointing out the "provoked vs unprovoked" dogwhistle you tried to sneak in before 

[ProudLBS]

1 minute ago, Headlock said:

aaaaaaaaand here we go again 

Hence my pointing out the "provoked vs unprovoked" dogwhistle you tried to sneak in before 

 

1 hour ago, ProudLBS said:

against anyone? If I have, please direct me to those posts so I can apologize.

Context sweetie. I made a post wishing violence on Putin just a few days ago, so if I said I had never wished for those things on anyone I would be lying.

I didn’t try to sneak-in anything, otherwise I wouldn’t talk about it so openly.

 

I obviously don’t defend setting an entire village on fire because someone from there committed a terrorist attack. That’s some North Korea ****.

 

This conversation isn’t going anywhere so, again, if you don’t have anything to add stop quoting me (:

[Headlock]

8 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

I obviously don’t defend setting an entire village on fire because someone from there committed a terrorist attack. That’s some North Korea ****.

 

So you agree then:

 

 

 

[ProudLBS]

23 minutes ago, Headlock said:

So you agree then:

 

If you couldn’t tell my comment was about collective vs individual punishments, there’s just no point.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Headlock]

48 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

collective vs individual punishments

So you agree then [2]

 

 

[ProudLBS]

2 minutes ago, Headlock said:

So you agree then [2]

I do agree you need to work on your comprehension skills, yes. Goodbye.

[Headlock]

"Collective punishment bad, individual punishment good!"

*gestures to Palestinian genocide*

"No not like that"

 

[ProudLBS]

3 minutes ago, Headlock said:

"Collective punishment bad, individual punishment good!"

*gestures to Palestinian genocide*

"No not like that"

 

every other week: terrorist attacks civilians with guns or knives

 

atrl user headlock: Usopp

Edited March 21, 2023 by ProudLBS