Stallo Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, AvaMax said: Wasn’t the Rihanna song just released a few months ago? If anything it should be doing triple of that. Indeed, the Rihanna song was released in oct 22 compared to HMH in may. Yet the former has racked up plenty of more streams. Sit.
Diocles Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 12:22 AM, VioletsandRoses said: The boost for HMH is 210k while LMU did 194k, HMH is also higher on ITunes and YouTube views for the performance and music video. False facts 23 hours ago, Mystic Boy said: Oh wow Also HMH was #2 on ITunes while the other one barely Top 5 Looking at the whole picture isn't Navy forte. Of course LMU has more daily streams since it was released way later than HMH The fact they were thinking it was going to have a huge ressurgence a la "Shallow" when it didn't even increase by 200k ls the biggest kii ...add to that they were still secretly hoping she would win the Oscar so they could blow up ATRL Not Gaga with like the simplest performance ever at rhe Oscars, getting a bigger boost effect
istan4badgalriri Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: HMH clearly had a bigger effect HMH makes up for that Spotify difference on Youtube 160m Holdy My Hand 96m Lift Me Up and before you start screaming "But...but...AM!1!" - we don't have any official numbers from AM, so that argument is pointless Well at least you're aware. "Hold My Hand" never cracked the global Top 100 while "Lift Me Up" peaked at #2, spent 1 month in the Top 20 and several in the Top 100... so we definitely get an idea of the gap. As for YouTube, Lift Me Up has 157M views counting every official upload of the song on Rihanna's channel. Hold My Hand has 186M counting every upload on Gaga's. Same gap as Spotify... and then Apple Music puts LMU ahead by a very, very large margin.
Hector Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 According to Billboard in the US: On March 12 and 13 combined, “Naatu Naatu,” performed by vocalists Rahul Sipligunj and Kaala Bhairava, garnered 176,000 official on-demand streams in the U.S. – up 260% from the 49,000 that the track collected in the two previous days (March 10 and 11). In terms of digital song sales, the song sold a little over 1,000 on March 12-13 – up from a negligible sum in the two days prior. “Naatu Naatu” had the third-most streams of the five nominees for original song, all of which were performed on the Oscars, which aired live on ABC. Here’s a recap of the other four nominees and their streams on March 12-13, versus March 10-11: Rihanna’s “Lift Me Up” (1.447 million vs. 1.446 million; up less than 1%), Lady Gaga’s “Hold My Hand” (580,000 vs. 389,000; up 49%), “This Is a Life” (84,000 vs. 38,000; up 121%) and Sofia Carson’s “Applause” (37,000 vs. 5,000; up 593%). https://www.billboard.com/pro/naatu-naatu-oscars-streaming-gain/
istan4badgalriri Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 23 hours ago, Mystic Boy said: Oh wow Also HMH was #2 on ITunes while the other one barely Top 5 Looking at the whole picture isn't Navy forte. Of course LMU has more daily streams since it was released way later than HMH The fact they were thinking it was going to have a huge ressurgence a la "Shallow" when it didn't even increase by 200k ls the biggest kii ...add to that they were still secretly hoping she would win the Oscar so they could blow up ATRL 18 hours ago, VioletsandRoses said: The way he/she ignored the thread after the numbers were proven wrong LMU 1,068m (day after Oscar) minus 874k (day before Grammy) equals 194k HMH 592k (day after Grammy) minus 382k (day after Grammy) equals 210k and it’s also much higher on YouTube for the live recording (700k more) and the music video. Still above it on iTunes too 14 minutes ago, Diocles said: Not Gaga with like the simplest performance ever at rhe Oscars, getting a bigger boost effect Except these are the Saturday numbers of "Lift Me Up". It received 783K streams on Sunday, meaning it gained 285K on Monday following the Oscars. L after L.
VioletsandRoses Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: Except these are the Saturday numbers of "Lift Me Up". It received 783K streams on Sunday, meaning it gained 285K on Monday following the Oscars. L after L. I was looking at fentystat. You also ignored the part of ITunes and YouTube where Lift me up was #5, while Hold My Hand was #2 and #17. YouTube boost was #179(+329) Lady Gaga - Hold My Hand (From “Top Gun: Maverick”) [Official Music Video] **560,523** #243(+264) Rihanna - Lift Me Up (From Black Panther: Wakanda Forever) **452,474** and that’s not including the live performance which did 700k more 12 minutes ago, Hector said: According to Billboard in the US: On March 12 and 13 combined, “Naatu Naatu,” performed by vocalists Rahul Sipligunj and Kaala Bhairava, garnered 176,000 official on-demand streams in the U.S. – up 260% from the 49,000 that the track collected in the two previous days (March 10 and 11). In terms of digital song sales, the song sold a little over 1,000 on March 12-13 – up from a negligible sum in the two days prior. “Naatu Naatu” had the third-most streams of the five nominees for original song, all of which were performed on the Oscars, which aired live on ABC. Here’s a recap of the other four nominees and their streams on March 12-13, versus March 10-11: Rihanna’s “Lift Me Up” (1.447 million vs. 1.446 million; up less than 1%), Lady Gaga’s “Hold My Hand” (580,000 vs. 389,000; up 49%), “This Is a Life” (84,000 vs. 38,000; up 121%) and Sofia Carson’s “Applause” (37,000 vs. 5,000; up 593%). https://www.billboard.com/pro/naatu-naatu-oscars-streaming-gain/ Oh wow so less than 1% boost vs 49% boost. I guess we have a winner
Mystic Boy Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: Well at least you're aware. "Hold My Hand" never cracked the global Top 100 while "Lift Me Up" peaked at #2, spent 1 month in the Top 20 and several in the Top 100... so we definitely get an idea of the gap. As for YouTube, Lift Me Up has 157M views counting every official upload of the song on Rihanna's channel. Hold My Hand has 186M counting every upload on Gaga's. Same gap as Spotify... and then Apple Music puts LMU ahead by a very, very large margin. we know you got clocked when you deflect to the failure that LMU is, aka the long awaited Rihanna comeback attached to a huge movie with gargantuan promo and compare it to HMH who didnt receive a fraction of the other one promo and wasnt Gaga first release in 7 years 24 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said: I was looking at fentystat. You also ignored the part of ITunes and YouTube where Lift me up was #5, while Hold My Hand was #2 and #17. YouTube boost was #179(+329) Lady Gaga - Hold My Hand (From “Top Gun: Maverick”) [Official Music Video] **560,523** #243(+264) Rihanna - Lift Me Up (From Black Panther: Wakanda Forever) **452,474** and that’s not including the live performance which did 700k more Oh wow so less than 1% boost vs 49% boost. I guess we have a winner Keep popping those receipts Not 1% boost when they were expecting a return to Spotify Top20 at least They really thought that snoozefest could pull a "Shallow" or even a "INLA" Edited March 16, 2023 by Mystic Boy
istan4badgalriri Posted March 16, 2023 Author Posted March 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said: I was looking at fentystat. You also ignored the part of ITunes and YouTube where Lift me up was #5, while Hold My Hand was #2 and #17. YouTube boost was #179(+329) Lady Gaga - Hold My Hand (From “Top Gun: Maverick”) [Official Music Video] **560,523** #243(+264) Rihanna - Lift Me Up (From Black Panther: Wakanda Forever) **452,474** and that’s not including the live performance which did 700k more Yeah, that number is from Saturday. And no one is ignoring anything, "Lift Me Up" was and still is ahead of "Hold My Hand" on Spotify, Apple Music & Deezer, and by a large - if not huge - margin. It also had the lead on Amazon digital sales. But congrats on the small iTunes and YouTube leads, I'm sure that's gonna help it chart higher than Lift Me Up on next week's Hot 100. 42 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said: Oh wow so less than 1% boost vs 49% boost. I guess we have a winner By that logic the actual winner would be "Applause" which got a 593% boost and pulled a staggering 37k streams.
VioletsandRoses Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: Yeah, that number is from Saturday. And no one is ignoring anything, "Lift Me Up" was and still is ahead of "Hold My Hand" on Spotify, Apple Music & Deezer, and by a large - if not huge - margin. It also had the lead on Amazon digital sales. But congrats on the small iTunes and YouTube leads, I'm sure that's gonna help it chart higher than Lift Me Up on next week's Hot 100. By that logic the actual winner would be "Applause" which got a 593% boost and pulled a staggering 37k streams. Billboard includes all streaming services which we don’t see. It’s just not the percentage but the total amount of streams increase is larger, more than 200k for HMH while under 10k for LMU. And iTunes is much bigger than Amazon downloads. It’s like 90% of the digital market So yeah HMH had a bigger boost in both digits downloads and streaming services combined according to billboard 1.447 million vs. 1.446 million; upless than 1%), Lady Gaga’s “Hold My Hand” (580,000 vs.389,000; up 49%), “
Jude Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 LMU is the newer song and has more playlisting while HMH already finished its run a while ago. Both did got nice boosts.
istan4badgalriri Posted March 16, 2023 Author Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, VioletsandRoses said: Billboard includes all streaming services which we don’t see. It’s just not the percentage but the total amount of streams increase is larger, more than 200k for HMH while under 10k for LMU. And iTunes is much bigger than Amazon downloads. It’s like 90% of the digital market So yeah HMH had a bigger boost in both digits downloads and streaming services combined according to billboard 1.447 million vs. 1.446 million; upless than 1%), Lady Gaga’s “Hold My Hand” (580,000 vs.389,000; up 49%), “ Nah the big winner here is "Applause" with a massive 593% boost (resulting in just 37k streams, but who cares?)
VioletsandRoses Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: Nah the big winner here is "Applause" with a massive 593% boost (resulting in just 37k streams, but who cares?) Girl do the math. I’m not doing it 3 times in a row Subtract 1.447m with 1.446m and 580k with 389k Edited March 16, 2023 by VioletsandRoses
istan4badgalriri Posted March 16, 2023 Author Posted March 16, 2023 How every song held on Spotify on Tuesday (day after the Oscars boost): Lift Me Up - 1,056M (-1%) Hold My Hand - 561K (-5%) Naatu Naatu - 410K (-19%) This Is A Life - 92K (-24%) Applause - 20K (-30%) Well well well...
Mystic Boy Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said: How every song held on Spotify on Tuesday (day after the Oscars boost): Lift Me Up - 1,056M (-1%) Hold My Hand - 561K (-5%) Naatu Naatu - 410K (-19%) This Is A Life - 92K (-24%) Applause - 20K (-30%) Well well well... We dont care about Tuesday LMU is the more recent release between the two , of course it will stabilize more and you know that HMH performance had more boost on digital sales and YouTube despite being released in May , take the L and move on, nobody cared about the Avon lady weak vocalsand we know you were expecting that huge ressurgence but it's not that easy and not everybody has the pull for that
zzmyth Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Mystic Boy said: We dont care about Tuesday LMU is the more recent release between the two , of course it will stabilize more and you know that HMH performance had more boost on digital sales and YouTube despite being released in May , take the L and move on, nobody cared about the Avon lady weak vocalsand we know you were expecting that huge ressurgence but it's not that easy and not everybody has the pull for that LMU is more recent and yet it outstreamed the other ones in half the time...
Stallo Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 13 hours ago, Mystic Boy said: we know you got clocked when you deflect to the failure that LMU is, aka the long awaited Rihanna comeback attached to a huge movie with gargantuan promo and compare it to HMH who didnt receive a fraction of the other one promo and wasnt Gaga first release in 7 years What on earth are you talking about. Top Gun grossed like twice that of Wakanda and was on Gags setlist during Chromatica tour. The best promoted song of the two is HMH and it is not remotely close.
Mystic Boy Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Stallo said: What on earth are you talking about. Top Gun grossed like twice that of Wakanda and was on Gags setlist during Chromatica tour. The best promoted song of the two is HMH and it is not remotely close. Should we remind you the unprecedented radio push? Playlisting? the dozen of video and singles versions? What are YOU talking about? this has to be a big joke
Mystic Boy Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 4 hours ago, zzmyth said: LMU is more recent and yet it outstreamed the other ones in half the time... I see... Still deflecting to overall success rather the topic subject. I guess you run out of excuses I hope with the unprecedented push and comeback hype it would do better. These are your fave standards?
Paola Bracho Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 No matter how many " " you use my dear monster, you're giving the definition of:
Stallo Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said: Should we remind you the unprecedented radio push? Playlisting? the dozen of video and singles versions? What are YOU talking about? this has to be a big joke Oh, please. They both recieved push on radio and streaming just like every lead soundtrack single from every pop girl. Video and single versions are irrelevant in this day and age and you know it. As if a lyric mv with 280k views made a promotional impact... The biggest promo for either of these songs are the films they are connected to. Of which HMH has a great advantage considering Wakanda underperformed and TG crushed it at the box office. They are both superstars who released singles for big budget films. And one performed a lot better than the other because people preferred it. It really is that simple.
Mystic Boy Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, Paola Bracho said: No matter how many " " you use my dear monster, you're giving the definition of: Honey ,if there's anyone feeling that way it's you and your fellow navy who were expecting a huge ressurgence and revival for the song, just to have less boost that the "flop" HMH in the end 48 minutes ago, Stallo said: Oh, please. They both recieved push on radio and streaming just like every lead soundtrack single from every pop girl. Video and single versions are irrelevant in this day and age and you know it. As if a lyric mv with 280k views made a promotional impact... The biggest promo for either of these songs are the films they are connected to. Of which HMH has a great advantage considering Wakanda underperformed and TG crushed it at the box office. They are both superstars who released singles for big budget films. And one performed a lot better than the other because people preferred it. It really is that simple. Ok, you have no clue about what you're talking about so im not gonna waste anymore time
Dear Reader Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 15 hours ago, Hector said: According to Billboard in the US: On March 12 and 13 combined, “Naatu Naatu,” performed by vocalists Rahul Sipligunj and Kaala Bhairava, garnered 176,000 official on-demand streams in the U.S. – up 260% from the 49,000 that the track collected in the two previous days (March 10 and 11). In terms of digital song sales, the song sold a little over 1,000 on March 12-13 – up from a negligible sum in the two days prior. “Naatu Naatu” had the third-most streams of the five nominees for original song, all of which were performed on the Oscars, which aired live on ABC. Here’s a recap of the other four nominees and their streams on March 12-13, versus March 10-11: Rihanna’s “Lift Me Up” (1.447 million vs. 1.446 million; up less than 1%), Lady Gaga’s “Hold My Hand” (580,000 vs. 389,000; up 49%), “This Is a Life” (84,000 vs. 38,000; up 121%) and Sofia Carson’s “Applause” (37,000 vs. 5,000; up 593%). https://www.billboard.com/pro/naatu-naatu-oscars-streaming-gain/ so it actually means the Rihanna song got the LEAST increase out of all of the Oscar nominated songs? Also, I just checked youtube and HMH performance has more than DOUBLE of the views
Paola Bracho Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said: Honey ,if there's anyone feeling that way it's you and your fellow navy who were expecting a huge ressurgence and revival for the song, just to have less boost that the "flop" HMH in the end When you see monsters resorting to their imagination to tell their stories, you know damn well they are fuming like there's no tomorrow. Let your tears out sweetie.
RandomHooker Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) On 3/14/2023 at 10:16 PM, istan4badgalriri said: March 13, 2023: 1. Lift Me Up - 1,068,853 2. Hold My Hand - 592,028 3. Naatu Naatu (winner) - 505,424 4. This Is A Life - 92,070 5. Applause - 19,657 (same order for total streams) Y'all ain't very bright Lift Me Up was recently released and Hold My Hand is almost a year old. If anything LMU should be doing at least 3x more. Also that gif screaming no stage presence Edited March 16, 2023 by RandomHooker
zzmyth Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Mystic Boy said: I see... Still deflecting to overall success rather the topic subject. I guess you run out of excuses I hope with the unprecedented push and comeback hype it would do better. These are your fave standards? What are those standards babe? 135M Streams on Youtube and 231M on Spotify after 4 months = 366M Break My Soul - 299M on Spotify + 47M on youtube after 8 months = 346M Cuff It - 437M on Spotify + 49M on youtube after 8 months = 486M Who here has a double standard?
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