bijonse Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: It's great if that's your opinion. I respect it and disagree with it. Is that okay and allowed? It’s not really a matter of opinion though. That would be something like who’s music or voice is better or whos prettier which is not what we’re talking about
suneclipse121 Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, znake said: Shakira is bigger than Beyonce On what metric? Sales, streaming, touring, social media… Because Beyoncé is ahead on all of those metrics. Maybe Shakira has bigger YouTube views but Beyoncé is bigger in literally everything else. I adore Shakira but let’s not be delusional
aesthetic bih Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Shaki is more global Beyoncé is more known in Asia than her though, but not by much
bijonse Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, aesthetic bih said: Shaki is more global Beyoncé is more known in Asia than her though, but not by much This is a question of fame and general interest, not stats. Google says Beyoncé beats her outside of Latin america, Northern Africa and Central Asia. That’s a lot of people left over, I think Beyoncé might be more global
aesthetic bih Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, bijonse said: This is a question of fame and general interest, not stats. Google says Beyoncé beats her outside of Latin america, Northern Africa and Central Asia. That’s a lot of people left over, I think Beyoncé might be more global Maybe because Beyoncé releases albums (English) more frequently than Shakira, that's why her interest is higher. Shakira just releases collab droplets and the interest is divided between her collaborators
bijonse Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: Maybe because Beyoncé releases albums (English) more frequently than Shakira, that's why her interest is higher. Shakira just releases collab droplets and the interest is divided between her collaborators Are you sure cuz I feel like shakira always has a song out and it’s always a YouTube SMASH. She also was on the voice, idk i just feel like she’s in the media way more than beyoncé who steps outside twice a year nowadays. She doesn’t even give us the website updates anymore her star power is unmatched imo but I think both are households names on every corner of earth. The narrative that Beyoncé is not as global as other girls is so wrong though
More Than A Melody Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, bijonse said: It’s not really a matter of opinion though. That would be something like who’s music or voice is better or whos prettier which is not what we’re talking about It isn’t a matter of opinion, and you’re wrong and I’m right. But you’re allowed to disagree!
aesthetic bih Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, bijonse said: Are you sure cuz I feel like shakira always has a song out and it’s always a YouTube SMASH. She also was on the voice, idk i just feel like she’s in the media way more than beyoncé who steps outside twice a year nowadays. She doesn’t even give us the website updates anymore her star power is unmatched imo but I think both are households names on every corner of earth. The narrative that Beyoncé is not as global as other girls is so wrong though Wbk both are global. Ig it just depends on where you live but if ask where I'm from, people would probably say Beyonce over Shakira
Pristine Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 8 hours ago, PrudenceHCharmed said: Touring is not, selling albums is not, breaking into Asian and South African market is not. Then what is? Based on who you auntie is listening to? not you thinking the Halo chanteuse has a younger listener base than Shakira that cringe Karen ballad was ha last true global hit
RiseAndShine Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) But I thought in that Bey vs Tay (who is bigger or whatever) thread, certain stans were saying stats aren't the only metric to measure how big an artist is. Now I'm seeing stats fly all over the place. I would go with Bey for recognition. Shakira is a legend too and for her to crossover from Spanish to English with such success is nothing to scoff at. Edited March 15, 2023 by RiseAndShine
Disconnect Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Honestly both are big and that's it. Beyoncé is bigger in some markets and Shakira is bigger in others so just let it go. They have a song together c'mon.
bijonse Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 12 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: It isn’t a matter of opinion, and you’re wrong and I’m right. But you’re allowed to disagree! I guess you have nothing more to add to the convo. Anyways Beyoncé is just as well known if not more than shakira globally, this conversation isn’t even about success but she wins there and even you can’t deny that
kimberly Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Disconnect said: They have a song together c'mon. never stopped Little Monsters they would feud with Bradley Cooper if they could
Losing my ground Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 I'd vote for No because Shakira is above Beyoncé globally, but I see what you're doing here so I voted for yes.
BabyBenzz Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 Shakira is more widely recognized across the world, like even in remote places they will know her ''Shakira, Shakira''.
chaklux Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 When it comes to fame. Its always Bey vs someone else. Bey vs Taylor, Bey vs Shakira. Some weeks ago on twitter, it was Bey vs Ronaldo, who is more famous, that was trending. The fact that Bey is mostly the reference and standard of comparison in this discussions speaks volume. She is the standard and most global celebrity in the world right now after Ronaldo and Messi.
Leppie Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 1:05 AM, Saintlor said: Most big names are known by everybody Even a name like Bella Hadid would be known by the majority of the world, even if she doesnt have a career as huge as Beyonce I...
foreverwinter13 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) It is Shakira. Beyonce is overrated by the press. Her hype does not translate to streams or sales. It is just imaginary Edited March 19, 2023 by foreverwinter13
Embustera Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, foreverwinter13 said: It is Shakira. Beyonce is overrated by the press. Her hype does not translate to streams or sales. It is just imaginary But it translate to concerttickets… and there is where the money is.
vuelve88 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 Lol at this thread still going. They have both had incredible careers with tremendous longevity. And artist would love to have their careers.
Jmo21 Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 Shakira and Beyoncé literally keep up with each other on a constant basis and y’all are still feeding this thread. Shakira was criticized for NOT going to a private Super Bowl afterparty with López and instead celebrating her bday with her family AND BEYONCÉ. You cannot possibly know one without knowing the other :/ end thread.
PrudenceHCharmed Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jmo21 said: Shakira and Beyoncé literally keep up with each other on a constant basis and y’all are still feeding this thread. Shakira was criticized for NOT going to a private Super Bowl afterparty with López and instead celebrating her bday with her family AND BEYONCÉ. You cannot possibly know one without knowing the other :/ end thread. Is that true? Her and JLo do not get along?
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