ciara Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 7 hours ago, mylicious said: The song is still ok to me but the video is very bad, what happened here? R&B and HipHop is smashing and she could be on top again but I guess she just doesn’t care? I mean it’s fine but yea, she has so much potential still. I’m over potential. She’s proven she’s the problem and I’ve officially thrown my stan card away. Wish her the best but she’s obviously not the Ciara I fell in love with and I’m moving on.
CristianGarcia Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 A mess I was wondering why nobody was reporting the release but Ciara And then she was going to do a YouTube live 15 minutes before the premiere but there were only 200 ppl waiting to watch it so she went live on IG instead to save face She’s clearly nothing without a label push
KING ACE Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 I really wish she would get an A&R with a good ear, clearly hers is trash.
ccfan007 Posted March 24, 2023 Author Posted March 24, 2023 Top 50 on the iTunes main chart, #2 on the R&B chart.
Flare Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 14 hours ago, Attitude said: She used some random distributor used by indie/flop artists for the video. https://vydia.com/ This is sad. Ciara really was on to something for a bit. I wish she had someone in her circle just giving guidance on sound. Ciara needs to go back to R&B without corny lyrics. If she can’t do that then why can’t she stay in the Level ups and afrobeats like Freak Me? That was a good sound for her. Freak Me didn’t even get a real video but Da Girls and that summer walker song did? Insane.
stephen1108 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Flare said: This is sad. Ciara really was on to something for a bit. I wish she had someone in her circle just giving guidance on sound. Ciara needs to go back to R&B without corny lyrics. If she can’t do that then why can’t she stay in the Level ups and afrobeats like Freak Me? That was a good sound for her. Freak Me didn’t even get a real video but Da Girls and that summer walker song did? Insane. Freak Me not getting an actual push was such a mistake. The song was getting traction and coming off the heels of Level Up woulda been a great followup.
ciara Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ccfan007 said: Top 50 on the iTunes main chart, #2 on the R&B chart. That’s practically like 300 copies sold. Not impressive at all. Streaming numbers will tell it all and right now she’s at an embarrassing 100k in 24hrs. ***warning*** long venting essay incoming… you don’t have to read but if you do hold on to your butts!!! I will go to war with Ciara stans cause some of y’all are delusional and accepting the bare minimum from her. THATS really the problem and what has lead me to not put up with her bs anymore. That’s why she keeps giving you the bare minimum cause y’all are accepting it from her. Y’all hype her up when deep down inside you’re not really enjoying the **** she doing. Then months later y’all are mad and wondering why none of her songs are charting or catching on. This whole era has been a sloppy and bare minimum mess. she really fumbled the bag with Jump because before it was released she had MONTHS of hype and GP support especially when she dropped the cover of Sport Illustrated. That was the perfect time to drop a single and she didn’t. Instead she kept teasing the song with that annoying 30 second strategy which killed the whole hype she had going for her. By the time the song dropped everyone had moved on and practically heard a good portion of the song. Then she also works with an unknown rap group. Like girl are you serious!!! Jump was tacky, dated and underwhelming. Such waste of a budget on such a tacky stupid song that should of been kept in 2006. The video looks like a collage of random photo shoots thrown together and doesn’t have any cohesiveness to it. Looks unfinished too. The dancing isn’t even that great. Fire Jamaica or whoever she keeps working with because the stale choreography isn’t impressing anyone anymore. I know Ci can dance and actually put some technique but whoever she keeps working with is not bringing that out of her. Then she disappears. No promo and then out of nowhere starts with the teasing again. This time Better Thangs. Which I ended up liking. That song had a little bit of a chokehold on me in the fall but then the video dropped. A tacky cheap soft choreo mess. Once again no promo and once again she dissapears. then she drops ANOTHER snippet which turned out to be this horrible “Da Girls” we have now but this was MONTHS ago. Once again sloppy and confusing. Then she starts dropping snippets of Winning. Once again with the damn snippets. While Winning sounds tacky it sounded like it was her best shot at actually charting on the Billboard Hot 100. She then performs the damn song at New Years which was the perfect opportunity to release the song. What does she does? Didsapears once again. then months later now we have “Da Flop”. Which prior to release she kept teasing ONCE AGAIN. Tired ass annoying strategy. All for her to have the audacity to hop on Instagram and say she dropping the video 1 hour before the song dropped. The video IS cute but not “I need to chart on the Hot 100” cute. the point is that nothing she ever does or had done lately has had any cohesiveness. It’s almost like she’s lost confidence in herself and is scared to release an album. Ciara is not the artist I once loved and while she is a great human she’s lost me as a music fan. the only thing that could win me back is if she drops a sickening album without bs from the jump and I just don’t see that happening. Enjoy your riches girl cause the music ain’t working. Go be Mr Wilson wife and call it a day!!!! PeriodTT im out (no pun intended) Edited March 25, 2023 by ciara
ccfan007 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Posted March 25, 2023 I mean at the end of the day, Ciara is making music SHE wants to make. The fans do tell her, quite often on twitter, that "this ain't it, sis" and she doesn't listen. We constantly tell her drop the damn song already yet she never listens. She clearly isn't hurting for money from her music career or else it would feel like she's taking it more seriously and she actually would take it more seriously. The singles have been mediocre or just plan bad for many albums now so this is not anything new to her core fan base. It's like just accept what she's giving or don't check for it any more, it's Ciara... the music has been about the same for a long time now. She is not the "Goodies" or "Evolution" hit maker any more and what she's been releasing is her now, unfortunately for most. I love C and I will always support, most of the time I can actually find enjoyment in the music. Hated JUMP first listen but grew to love it and I still have it in rotation. Idk it is what it is at this point.
Power love Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 3 hours ago, ciara said: That’s practically like 300 copies sold. Not impressive at all. Streaming numbers will tell it all and right now she’s at an embarrassing 100k in 24hrs. ***warning*** long venting essay incoming… you don’t have to read but if you do hold on to your butts!!! I will go to war with Ciara stans cause some of y’all are delusional and accepting the bare minimum from her. THATS really the problem and what has lead me to not put up with her bs anymore. That’s why she keeps giving you the bare minimum cause y’all are accepting it from her. Y’all hype her up when deep down inside you’re not really enjoying the **** she doing. Then months later y’all are mad and wondering why none of her songs are charting or catching on. This whole era has been a sloppy and bare minimum mess. she really fumbled the bag with Jump because before it was released she had MONTHS of hype and GP support especially when she dropped the cover of Sport Illustrated. That was the perfect time to drop a single and she didn’t. Instead she kept teasing the song with that annoying 30 second strategy which killed the whole hype she had going for her. By the time the song dropped everyone had moved on and practically heard a good portion of the song. Then she also works with an unknown rap group. Like girl are you serious!!! Jump was tacky, dated and underwhelming. Such waste of a budget on such a tacky stupid song that should of been kept in 2006. The video looks like a collage of random photo shoots thrown together and doesn’t have any cohesiveness to it. Looks unfinished too. The dancing isn’t even that great. Fire Jamaica or whoever she keeps working with because the stale choreography isn’t impressing anyone anymore. I know Ci can dance and actually put some technique but whoever she keeps working with is not bringing that out of her. Then she disappears. No promo and then out of nowhere starts with the teasing again. This time Better Thangs. Which I ended up liking. That song had a little bit of a chokehold on me in the fall but then the video dropped. A tacky cheap soft choreo mess. Once again no promo and once again she dissapears. then she drops ANOTHER snippet which turned out to be this horrible “Da Girls” we have now but this was MONTHS ago. Once again sloppy and confusing. Then she starts dropping snippets of Winning. Once again with the damn snippets. While Winning sounds tacky it sounded like it was her best shot at actually charting on the Billboard Hot 100. She then performs the damn song at New Years which was the perfect opportunity to release the song. What does she does? Didsapears once again. then months later now we have “Da Flop”. Which prior to release she kept teasing ONCE AGAIN. Tired ass annoying strategy. All for her to have the audacity to hop on Instagram and say she dropping the video 1 hour before the song dropped. The video IS cute but not “I need to chart on the Hot 100” cute. the point is that nothing she ever does or had done lately has had any cohesiveness. It’s almost like she’s lost confidence in herself and is scared to release an album. Ciara is not the artist I once loved and while she is a great human she’s lost me as a music fan. the only thing that could win me back is if she drops a sickening album without bs from the jump and I just don’t see that happening. Enjoy your riches girl cause the music ain’t working. Go be Mr Wilson wife and call it a day!!!! PeriodTT im out (no pun intended) Ruthless drag. 12 hours ago, ciara said: I’m over potential. She’s proven she’s the problem and I’ve officially thrown my stan card away. Wish her the best but she’s obviously not the Ciara I fell in love with and I’m moving on. You know it’s bad if you’re jumping ship.
nuclear Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 14 hours ago, ciara said: I’m over potential. She’s proven she’s the problem and I’ve officially thrown my stan card away. Wish her the best but she’s obviously not the Ciara I fell in love with and I’m moving on. 13 hours ago, KING ACE said: I really wish she would get an A&R with a good ear, clearly hers is trash. 13 hours ago, CristianGarcia said: A mess I was wondering why nobody was reporting the release but Ciara And then she was going to do a YouTube live 15 minutes before the premiere but there were only 200 ppl waiting to watch it so she went live on IG instead to save face She’s clearly nothing without a label push
MusicandSoul Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 This is really bad. like REALLY embarrassing bad.. I pray good sis finds her way back-to what talented song writing sounds like cos these songs, all since Beauty Marks. Suck ass. lyrics are super cringe, the beat is ok - besides being dated (and not in a throwback, inspired way). I already know how this album is going to sound and it seems shes targeting kids. last tome i checked most of her fanbase are grown people. :rollseyes:
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Another sh*t song by an artistically-confused musical act who hasn’t released a good track since “I Bet”. When will she f*cking evolve? I’m tired of her, and I’m sure her “fans” are too. Jesus. Edited March 25, 2023 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto
Cbreezy Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 10 hours ago, ciara said: That’s practically like 300 copies sold. Not impressive at all. Streaming numbers will tell it all and right now she’s at an embarrassing 100k in 24hrs. ***warning*** long venting essay incoming… you don’t have to read but if you do hold on to your butts!!! I will go to war with Ciara stans cause some of y’all are delusional and accepting the bare minimum from her. THATS really the problem and what has lead me to not put up with her bs anymore. That’s why she keeps giving you the bare minimum cause y’all are accepting it from her. Y’all hype her up when deep down inside you’re not really enjoying the **** she doing. Then months later y’all are mad and wondering why none of her songs are charting or catching on. This whole era has been a sloppy and bare minimum mess. she really fumbled the bag with Jump because before it was released she had MONTHS of hype and GP support especially when she dropped the cover of Sport Illustrated. That was the perfect time to drop a single and she didn’t. Instead she kept teasing the song with that annoying 30 second strategy which killed the whole hype she had going for her. By the time the song dropped everyone had moved on and practically heard a good portion of the song. Then she also works with an unknown rap group. Like girl are you serious!!! Jump was tacky, dated and underwhelming. Such waste of a budget on such a tacky stupid song that should of been kept in 2006. The video looks like a collage of random photo shoots thrown together and doesn’t have any cohesiveness to it. Looks unfinished too. The dancing isn’t even that great. Fire Jamaica or whoever she keeps working with because the stale choreography isn’t impressing anyone anymore. I know Ci can dance and actually put some technique but whoever she keeps working with is not bringing that out of her. Then she disappears. No promo and then out of nowhere starts with the teasing again. This time Better Thangs. Which I ended up liking. That song had a little bit of a chokehold on me in the fall but then the video dropped. A tacky cheap soft choreo mess. Once again no promo and once again she dissapears. then she drops ANOTHER snippet which turned out to be this horrible “Da Girls” we have now but this was MONTHS ago. Once again sloppy and confusing. Then she starts dropping snippets of Winning. Once again with the damn snippets. While Winning sounds tacky it sounded like it was her best shot at actually charting on the Billboard Hot 100. She then performs the damn song at New Years which was the perfect opportunity to release the song. What does she does? Didsapears once again. then months later now we have “Da Flop”. Which prior to release she kept teasing ONCE AGAIN. Tired ass annoying strategy. All for her to have the audacity to hop on Instagram and say she dropping the video 1 hour before the song dropped. The video IS cute but not “I need to chart on the Hot 100” cute. the point is that nothing she ever does or had done lately has had any cohesiveness. It’s almost like she’s lost confidence in herself and is scared to release an album. Ciara is not the artist I once loved and while she is a great human she’s lost me as a music fan. the only thing that could win me back is if she drops a sickening album without bs from the jump and I just don’t see that happening. Enjoy your riches girl cause the music ain’t working. Go be Mr Wilson wife and call it a day!!!! PeriodTT im out (no pun intended) All of this. Since Jump, I've pretty much been on this wave. I'll always root for her and will her another "Level Up" or "Body Party" moment of random success, but she is proving that it really wasn't the label's fault with some of her previous mishaps. That or she has the unfortunate circumstance of being shafted by labels when the music was actually good (see: Overdose, Dance Like We're Making Love) only to not know how to handle her own career when left to her own devices. Whatever the case, her whole situation is a shambles. The oddest part is that she's actually more celebrity-hot now than she was when she collected her last few hits (I Bet, Level Up). And yet she can't parlay that towards the success of her music. Which proves that the music is the issue. She definitely needs to cede control of the creative direction of her music because her ear and that of the team she keeps working with (Theron?) is clearly not working. She needs dedicated music management too (IIRC she's managed by Russell's team). That's the relatively easy part. She also needs a label and that's where it gets sticky. Level Up was a fluke and probably gassed her up to think she could work indie after Warner shelved her without releasing anything. She proved she didn't have the right infrastructure in place when the Beauty Marks album became her biggest flop ever. It performed so badly that I was convinced there was some kind of admin issue. Like, did they not submit all of the numbers cus....wtf :-S Now she's put out so many duds that what major label would be incentivized to work with her? Even the Uptown deal is now a bust (though I suspect they may have been the issue as they don't have the infrastructure to push an act adequately themselves). It aches me to say, it really is feeling like it may finally be time to "let go" of her potential for any kind of impactful redemption era. She's most optimized as a "celebrity" these days.
Saint James Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 cute video and nice message. not as bad as y’all are making out
ciara Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Cbreezy said: All of this. Since Jump, I've pretty much been on this wave. I'll always root for her and will her another "Level Up" or "Body Party" moment of random success, but she is proving that it really wasn't the label's fault with some of her previous mishaps. That or she has the unfortunate circumstance of being shafted by labels when the music was actually good (see: Overdose, Dance Like We're Making Love) only to not know how to handle her own career when left to her own devices. Whatever the case, her whole situation is a shambles. The oddest part is that she's actually more celebrity-hot now than she was when she collected her last few hits (I Bet, Level Up). And yet she can't parlay that towards the success of her music. Which proves that the music is the issue. She definitely needs to cede control of the creative direction of her music because her ear and that of the team she keeps working with (Theron?) is clearly not working. She needs dedicated music management too (IIRC she's managed by Russell's team). That's the relatively easy part. She also needs a label and that's where it gets sticky. Level Up was a fluke and probably gassed her up to think she could work indie after Warner shelved her without releasing anything. She proved she didn't have the right infrastructure in place when the Beauty Marks album became her biggest flop ever. It performed so badly that I was convinced there was some kind of admin issue. Like, did they not submit all of the numbers cus....wtf :-S Now she's put out so many duds that what major label would be incentivized to work with her? Even the Uptown deal is now a bust (though I suspect they may have been the issue as they don't have the infrastructure to push an act adequately themselves). It aches me to say, it really is feeling like it may finally be time to "let go" of her potential for any kind of impactful redemption era. She's most optimized as a "celebrity" these days. Perfectly said as well! Her 20 stans stay delusional and continue to egg this behavior.
ciara Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 12 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: Another sh*t song by an artistically-confused musical act who hasn’t released a good track since “I Bet”. When will she f*cking evolve? I’m tired of her, and I’m sure her “fans” are too. Jesus. Exactly none of her albums have been cohesive or shown any type of progression since self titled. Jackie was trash and Beauty Mole was worse. At least Jackie to some level had some good moments.
ciara Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Power love said: Ruthless drag. You know it’s bad if you’re jumping ship. I have bought all of her music. Bad or good. This will be the first song I haven’t purchased and will not. Not buying another thing from this heffa until she gives us a full GREAT body of work
stephen1108 Posted March 25, 2023 Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, ciara said: Exactly none of her albums have been cohesive or shown any type of progression since self titled. Jackie was trash and Beauty Mole was worse. At least Jackie to some level had some good moments. omg And I agree with you and @Cbreezy she's been VERY uninspired lately and it shows. Jackie was the beginning of all this mess, something happened after she scrapped all the work she did with Future behind the project. She's never been known for releasing musical masterpieces, but her albums and music were at least interesting and solid. Jackie and Beauty Marks felt bland, just collections of songs with no real vision behind the project. This project is doubling down on that concept and it's so blatant. 11 hours ago, Cbreezy said: She also needs a label and that's where it gets sticky. Level Up was a fluke and probably gassed her up to think she could work indie after Warner shelved her without releasing anything. She proved she didn't have the right infrastructure in place when the Beauty Marks album became her biggest flop ever. It performed so badly that I was convinced there was some kind of admin issue. Like, did they not submit all of the numbers cus....wtf :-S She needs to stop staggering these releases. BM prob would have sold more had it came out during Level Up's run. They clearly had some kind of rollout in-mind because she dropped a song in July, August, and September.... then radio silence. Album shoulda dropped in September. She has ZERO buzz atm, so what's she gonna do now? She's released 3 songs from what's probably another 10 track album, and this def won't be the one to launch the project... so onto single #4
ultrablue Posted March 26, 2023 Posted March 26, 2023 What's frustrating about her is her path to a musical comeback is so obvious but she refuses time and time again to follow the formula The people want Body Party, I Bet, Promise, Ciara!
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