simmnfierzig Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, doonerr said: How's Plastic Hearts charting this week? 144 (-20)
doonerr Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, simmnfierzig said: 144 (-20) Somewhat stable, which is a very good sign
Hot Volcano Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 16 hours ago, PurrKaty said: Pulling huge numbers from the start isn’t the only standard for an organic hit. I can list an endless amount of hits that weren’t as strong right out the gate or were even slow burners that grew organically. Who said that? I meant organic in a way that it didnt benefit from a huge label push or discounts, remixes, special edition versions, vinlys, CDs, merch etc. It exploded on its own, updates started to get bigger and bigger. Spotify didnt playlist Miley's new single all over its service just because its Miley, they playlisted because of a massive demand, they had no choice, same with radio. In some cases its the opposite, a massive artist gets a push just based on its name and label management, so the GP is forced to listen to the song everywhere
ClashAndBurn Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said: Nah, 1989 was a cultural reset, and deserved its Grammy. If it were up to me, all of those albums, except for the more recent ones (evermore and folklore), would have been Grammy winners. Speak Now wasn’t beating 21. Red wasn’t beating Random Access Memories. And while Jon Batiste wasn’t a commercial power house, it’s not that hard to see why he won over evermore.
Price88 Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 Golden hour top 10! Song deserves number 1. Best song all year. And he’s cute. Sabrina almost top 50, tiesto/Tate debuts, and ice spice debuts. If Sabrina and tiesto get their first hit I’ll be so happy. And Tate gets her second. Tiesto deserves it the most. The guy has been getting robbed each time. This is his 7th song to chart and he still hasn’t gotten to the top 40. The motto should’ve been there, it just came at an unfortunate time and by time it got steam, radio dropped it and fell off. Jackie Chan and the business dealt with the same thing. Actually all have if u add red lights and wasted to the mix. Feel it is the only one that is understandable. Sabrina also been robbed. Girl has had multiple songs chart on pop radio, yet this is only her second debut. I feel this will be her biggest song tho. Hopefully, 2023 is the year that breaks the curse!
4Real Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Who said that? I meant organic in a way that it didnt benefit from a huge label push or discounts, remixes, special edition versions, vinlys, CDs, merch etc. It exploded on its own, updates started to get bigger and bigger. Spotify didnt playlist Miley's new single all over its service just because its Miley, they playlisted because of a massive demand, they had no choice, same with radio. In some cases its the opposite, a massive artist gets a push just based on its name and label management, so the GP is forced to listen to the song everywhere Nobody's forced to listen to a song. You can skip, you can change radio stations. And you're a Lady Gaga stan, she has benefited from what you're accusing other artists of benefiting from now and she has done tactics to boost her numbers too. Does that mean her success is inorganic? Besides, Flowers being a Miley Cyrus song obviously plays a role into its success. The song went viral because of its subject matter and that's strongly tied to Miley's personal life and relationship. And Miley is not a flop or alternative artist, she's had an iconic career up until now and is known by everyone. If the song was sang by some irrelevant girl about her relationship with some unknown guy nobody would've cared that much (if at all).
Hot Volcano Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4Real said: Nobody's forced to listen to a song. You can skip, you can change radio stations. And you're a Lady Gaga stan, she has benefited from what you're accusing other artists of benefiting from now and she has done tactics to boost her numbers too. Does that mean her success is inorganic? Besides, Flowers being a Miley Cyrus song obviously plays a role into its success. The song went viral because of its subject matter and that's strongly tied to Miley's personal life and relationship. And Miley is not a flop or alternative artist, she's had an iconic career up until now and is known by everyone. If the song was sang by some irrelevant girl about her relationship with some unknown guy nobody would've cared that much (if at all). Seems like my post really triggered you, huh? Every major artist promotes their song and label gives a big push the first week, I never said that doesn't happen with my faves, for fucks sake I stan for Camila Cabello and a lot of her attempts at a hit were clearly not organic Anyways, I meant forced upon in a way its automatically put at #1 on every playlist so people just have no choice but to check it out or at least play most of it out of curiosity. Radio is the biggest Hot 100 factor right now, so yes, a huge aritst getting power rotation, non stop airplay benefits them a lot for the overall Hot 100 points. Quote Besides, Flowers being a Miley Cyrus song obviously plays a role into its success. The song went viral because of its subject matter and that's strongly tied to Miley's personal life and relationship. And Miley is not a flop or alternative artist, she's had an iconic career up until now and is known by everyone. Give me a break, the last MIley was massive was back in 2013 She was a non factor with her last few eras and droplet singles, this song kept growing gradually and it exploded organically. Nobody expected a Miley song to be this big in 2023, thats a fact. Quote If the song was sang by some irrelevant girl about her relationship with some unknown guy nobody would've cared that much (if at all). That was clearly a factor, but unless you are saying it was all somehow planned by her label, how is that not the definition of ORGANIC? People were genuinely interested in the song's topic and it was relatable, the song kept spreading, people are clearly enjoying it and there is an obvious demand. I was just trying to say how it's REFRESHING to finally see a massive song that wasn't fueled by a large fanbase, radio, discounts, remixes, massive playlist support etc. Why would anyone be offended over this unless they stan an artist who does that? Edited February 1, 2023 by Hot Volcano
simmnfierzig Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 19 hours ago, PurrKaty said: Remix’s don’t always make a song inorganic Especially when the remixes you’re referring to have no impact today and the original song is still smashing on all fronts. Exactly my point, yes. I was just trolling @Hot Volcanoand his alternative logic. Anti-Hero is obviously a huge hit no matter how you look at it
Starchild Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 I wonder how it must feel to live in such embarrassing denial simply because someone you don't like is smashing so hard. Did the copium run out after 17 years?
Ger Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: Golden Hour by Kacey? No, by JVKE.
PurrKaty Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 20 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: Who said that? I meant organic in a way that it didnt benefit from a huge label push or discounts, remixes, special edition versions, vinlys, CDs, merch etc. It exploded on its own, updates started to get bigger and bigger. Spotify didnt playlist Miley's new single all over its service just because its Miley, they playlisted because of a massive demand, they had no choice, same with radio. In some cases its the opposite, a massive artist gets a push just based on its name and label management, so the GP is forced to listen to the song everywhere I mean you’re basically calling out every organic hit other than 2 of the biggest openers… So if Miley discounted Flowers or dropped a remix at all it would suddenly not be organic anymore? Foolish thinking I think you need to look up the definition of organic. Just because an artist plays the chart game doesn’t strip a song from being an organic hit. I do agree that paid playlisting and radio payola is not organic when a hit is not clicking with GP.
Guest Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) I came for golden hour by Ms. Musgraves Edited February 2, 2023 by Limitless
PoisonPill Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 They're really now trying to claim that "being a well-known artist" makes a hit song inorganic
Johnny Jacobs Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Now dont get me wrong i love the album and her but gurl Where does this huge success coming from all of the sudden?
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