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The biggest venue of her tour, the Washington show on 10/29, just switched to light blue on Ticketmaster (6k max. capacity) :clap3:.

 

The Chicago show (5k max. capacity) also switched to light blue on Ticketmaster this week.

 

The Denver show sold out this week (4k max. capacity).

 

Really good considering she had ZERO commercial success in half a decade, she definitely should add more dates and legs after the current ones are over.

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1 hour ago, gettsleazy said:

Woo Hoo was genuinely supposed to be the lead, or at least a single, from whatever ended up being Warrior.

 

Shots was an Animal/Cannibal outtake but from what I remember hearing from a (reputable) insider during the Tinychat days they really did consider releasing it as a single or standalone, or as part of an expanded Cannibal. As noted in the lawsuit docs, Cannibal was considered to be an LP at one point and not a partner EP. Spandex on the Distant Horizon was always a concept/joke and not actually an album planned between Animal and Warrior.

 

Also, there was tea about Luke getting pissy that she wrote/recorded Woo Hoo with Matt Squire and not him. They had their issues for years but again from the Tinychat insider this really kicked off their disputes with the direction of the project that Warrior would become. You can really tell she was experimenting with a grungier/edgier sound with Woo Hoo, Pretty Lady, and Machine Gun Love, and Luke didn’t like it.

 

All things considered though the entire conflict (as it relates to recording, not their personal relationship) would have been resolved if he just stopped being a selfish dick and gave her creative control… like Woo Hoo was a bonafide hit and would have done well on the charts (likely notching her another #1 if we’re being real) It’s not like she was showing up to Kemosabe HQ with Björk demos.

We really ******* lost :jonny3:

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2 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

Woo Hoo was genuinely supposed to be the lead, or at least a single, from whatever ended up being Warrior.

 

Shots was an Animal/Cannibal outtake but from what I remember hearing from a (reputable) insider during the Tinychat days they really did consider releasing it as a single or standalone, or as part of an expanded Cannibal. As noted in the lawsuit docs, Cannibal was considered to be an LP at one point and not a partner EP. Spandex on the Distant Horizon was always a concept/joke and not actually an album planned between Animal and Warrior.

 

Also, there was tea about Luke getting pissy that she wrote/recorded Woo Hoo with Matt Squire and not him. They had their issues for years but again from the Tinychat insider this really kicked off their disputes with the direction of the project that Warrior would become. You can really tell she was experimenting with a grungier/edgier sound with Woo Hoo, Pretty Lady, and Machine Gun Love, and Luke didn’t like it.

 

All things considered though the entire conflict (as it relates to recording, not their personal relationship) would have been resolved if he just stopped being a selfish dick and gave her creative control… like Woo Hoo was a bonafide hit and would have done well on the charts (likely notching her another #1 if we’re being real) It’s not like she was showing up to Kemosabe HQ with Björk demos.

I think Luke leaked WooHoo on purpose so she’ll be forced to bin it. Honestly, the whole making of Warrior is such a crazy ride. It’s miracle that she ended releasing something in the end. 

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2 minutes ago, bearman said:

I think Luke leaked WooHoo on purpose so she’ll be forced to bin it. Honestly, the whole making of Warrior is such a crazy ride. It’s miracle that she ended releasing something in the end. 

Are we sure it wasn't in the batch of songs pebe leaked? With pretty Lady, meet me in space, etc?

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5 minutes ago, Vixen Eyes said:

Are we sure it wasn't in the batch of songs pebe leaked? With pretty Lady, meet me in space, etc?

Woo Hoo leaked before Pebe started interacting with fans on a personal level and contacting active Twitter stans so I’m more inclined to believe Bearman that Luke leaked it to sabotage its release.

 

RCA had final say, though Luke had control of the recordings, so it would make sense he would leak it to force RCAs hand and sell it off.

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9 minutes ago, Vixen Eyes said:

Are we sure it wasn't in the batch of songs pebe leaked? With pretty Lady, meet me in space, etc?

Woo Hoo leaked around May 2012, Pebe leaked the demos late 2013

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1 minute ago, keshasfillers said:

Woo Hoo leaked around May 2012, Pebe leaked the demos late 2013

There were also snippets floating around in late 2011, likely when they were pitching it to her label/management/AR. I remember holding on to and looping this 29 second HQ snippet I had for monthssss until the full leaked :rip:

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18 minutes ago, bearman said:

I think Luke leaked WooHoo on purpose so she’ll be forced to bin it. Honestly, the whole making of Warrior is such a crazy ride. It’s miracle that she ended releasing something in the end. 

It really is crazy to think about her in these rooms full of men talking about her like a product, hit machine. She was at the top of the industry, millions (of people and $$$) invested in her career, and all she could listen to was “how can we make the biggest ROI on Kesha?” meanwhile she has a clear cohesive vision as an artist that’s completely invalidated every time she walks into a room.
 

It really does inform and put into perspective her post-Warrior discog. The making-of could be a documentary (though I doubt she wants to relive it and I imagine many industry people would still be reluctant to speak).

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Also Luke is obviously the big evil bogeyman in all of these scenarios but it really gobsmacks me to think about the sheer amount of people that were complicit in her abuse/the conditions that lead her to rehab just because she was making them fat stacks. :cries:

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Just now, gettsleazy said:

Also Luke is obviously the big evil bogeyman in all of these scenarios but it really gobsmacks me to think about the sheer amount of people that were complicit in her abuse/the conditions that lead her to rehab just because she was making them fat stacks. :cries:

To be fair, the power Dr. Luke exercised over her at that point in time is probably unprecedented for a producer. She was tied to his production company, tied to his publishing company and tied to his label. Not even Sony had enough sway over him to make him terminate his contracts with Kesha and it is described in the lawsuit documents how Luke repeatedly butted heads with Kesha's management without any kind of shame whatsoever and even went as far as suing Kesha's manager too.

 

It is abundantly clear that Luke listens to nobody but himself, no matter how powerful his counterpart is. The recent Rolling Stone article perfectly described how terrified everybody who still works with him is of him and that Luke respects nobody except his own ego.

 

It is also outlined in the court documents that Kesha's initial litigation strategy was hyper-aggressive because Luke had a reputation for hyper-aggressive retaliation campaigns against his opponents, so everyone who was inclined to help Kesha or support her in some way most likely thought twice about what they would dare to do with respect to Luke.

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36 minutes ago, gettsleazy said:

It really is crazy to think about her in these rooms full of men talking about her like a product, hit machine. She was at the top of the industry, millions (of people and $$$) invested in her career, and all she could listen to was “how can we make the biggest ROI on Kesha?” meanwhile she has a clear cohesive vision as an artist that’s completely invalidated every time she walks into a room.
 

It really does inform and put into perspective her post-Warrior discog. The making-of could be a documentary (though I doubt she wants to relive it and I imagine many industry people would still be reluctant to speak).

I think internally the era was dead before it even started considering all the toxic stuff happening behind the scenes. It was clear in 2013 that RCA was disappointed in Luke and how bad he fumbled the bag and it felt like with Timber things were turning around for her. 

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18 minutes ago, bearman said:

I think internally the era was dead before it even started considering all the toxic stuff happening behind the scenes. It was clear in 2013 that RCA was disappointed in Luke and how bad he fumbled the bag and it felt like with Timber things were turning around for her. 

I remember after Timber we all thought she was about to have the biggest era of her career. Crazy to think about.

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1 hour ago, gettsleazy said:

There were also snippets floating around in late 2011, likely when they were pitching it to her label/management/AR. I remember holding on to and looping this 29 second HQ snippet I had for monthssss until the full leaked :rip:

Remember the half HQ half LQ full song until the full HQ leaked like a year later? :ahh:

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i still remember somebody finding the website that You Control My Heart leaked on. the link was sitting on an urn of some sort lmao

 

  

5 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

It really is crazy to think about her in these rooms full of men talking about her like a product, hit machine. She was at the top of the industry, millions (of people and $$$) invested in her career, and all she could listen to was “how can we make the biggest ROI on Kesha?” meanwhile she has a clear cohesive vision as an artist that’s completely invalidated every time she walks into a room.
 

It really does inform and put into perspective her post-Warrior discog. The making-of could be a documentary (though I doubt she wants to relive it and I imagine many industry people would still be reluctant to speak).

i think having her make a behind the scenes documentary could give us some more insight into her mind even if its just her (and people around her) recalling moments she remembers

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:hoetenks:

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On 9/15/2023 at 2:35 PM, keshasfillers said:

Remember the half HQ half LQ full song until the full HQ leaked like a year later? :ahh:

Omg yeah, it was so poorly editing ndndsdljhfdjkfdhl

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#Mesha :weeps:

 

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Ke$ha joins during encore for surprise duet

On the second song of the encore, Ke$ha walked out. With slicked-back hair and sporting a fur coat, it's hard not to connect Ke$ha's look to Macklemore's fashion in "Thrift Shop," where he raps: "I look incredible / I'm in this big-a** coat / From that thrift shop down the road."

 

The two performers, who toured the country together a couple years back, had a palpable closeness and warmth on the stage. After delivering a hearty performance of "Good Old Days," the two went in for a long, emotion-filled hug. With Ke$ha beaming, it appeared to be a spirited reunion.

 

"Ke$ha texted me yesterday and was like, 'You're gonna be in Nashville, I'm in Nashville.' It's probably years since I've seen Ke$ha, and I love Ke$ha, she is a brilliant, beautiful star," Macklemore told the audience, adding that he texted Ke$ha today, but didn't know she would be present at the show until he left for the encore and his manager said she was backstage.

https://eu.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/09/18/macklemore-kicks-off-tour-in-nashville-kesha-joins-for-encore/70877424007/

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On 9/18/2023 at 11:47 PM, TomTom2288 said:

#Mesha :weeps:

#Desha :heart2:

 

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kim stans really are easily offended lmao

 

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7 minutes ago, Vixen Eyes said:

kim stans really are easily offended lmao

 

But why bring it into another artists album thread?

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45 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

But why bring it into another artists album thread?

cos the main Kesha thread was pretty much abandoned and this one is used for general Kesha discussion now

 

 

 

but anyway, someone posted a supposed unmastered snippet of Machine Gun Love and i cannot tell if its real or not

its also not as rock as the live version

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