album Kesha - 'Gag Order'

[SmittenCake]

 

 

 

[SmittenCake]

 

 

 

[SmittenCake]

ok mizz Taylur Swift theres still time to give AT LEAST a lil shoutout to Gag Order. Even a 2 second IG story post would be nice.

 

 

 

[Jooj]

On 8/7/2023 at 5:22 PM, Vixen Eyes said:

how did people prefer Warrior over Animal????

Well Warrior is her best album so

 

[ALΞX]

Warrior is soo good. I agree. 😌

[Vixen Eyes]

warrior would have been her best if she was allowed to go full throttle on the rock genre that she wanted 

[CroNich]

10 hours ago, Vixen Eyes said:

warrior would have been her best if she was allowed to go full throttle on the rock genre that she wanted 

That part.

 

And yes how hard would it be for taylor to chuck kesha on a remix or something on 1989 TV with a nice cameo at one of her shows. If she was a TRUE feminist she would.

Edited August 14, 2023 by CroNich

[CroNich]

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if the album would've garnered more attention if she dropped Too Far Gone and Peace and Quiet as promo singles instead of ETA and Fine Line... probably not but I could so see, especially Peace and Quiet taking off more than the songs she ended up choosing. 

[Vixen Eyes]

16 hours ago, CroNich said:

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if the album would've garnered more attention if she dropped Too Far Gone and Peace and Quiet as promo singles instead of ETA and Fine Line... probably not but I could so see, especially Peace and Quiet taking off more than the songs she ended up choosing. 

i could see Only Love being the lead, Peace & Quiet being third and Fine Line kept out of the single choices! 

i want a music video a la Only Love for Hate Me Harder and Peace & Quiet

[TomTom]

On 6/28/2023 at 7:20 PM, bearman said:

Interesting talk about the settlement on Popcast but they had some weird takes about the whole thing. They kinda dragged her at the end for her 187 spot on Billboard and pushing the narrative that Luke is back on top. That's why I wish they just pushed this album more.

 

The New York Times just dragged her again in an article about flopping pop stars who are only celebrated on Stan Twitter...enough .

 

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For other contemporary pop stars, the act of releasing music itself feels incidental to their celebrity status. In recent years, Kesha — one of the dominant commercial forces of the 2010s, securing 10 Top 10s in the first four years of her career — has become known less for her music than for her longtime legal battle with the producer Dr. Luke; still a Twitter (now known as X) and tabloid fixture, her music is often the least-discussed thing about her. “Gag Order,” her latest album, debuted at No. 187 in May, selling the equivalent of 8,300 copies its first week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/arts/music/pop-musics-middle-class.html

[Vixen Eyes]

2 minutes ago, TomTom2288 said:

The New York Times just dragged her again in an article about flopping pop stars who are only celebrated on Stan Twitter...enough .

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/arts/music/pop-musics-middle-class.html

rip queen

[bearman]

1 hour ago, TomTom2288 said:

The New York Times just dragged her again in an article about flopping pop stars who are only celebrated on Stan Twitter...enough .

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/arts/music/pop-musics-middle-class.html

It sucks but sadly there is some truth to it. The popularity decay she experienced is very significant. Of course the lawsuit played a role, but her team also made a lot of mistakes that lead to people losing interest. No matter how you look at it, the album didn’t chart anywhere and there is no discourse around her at all. 

Edited August 15, 2023 by bearman

[collin]

This is why she should rebrand as an indie singer songwriter type. I’m afraid the LA may have seeped in too far though.

[SmittenCake]

wheres the deluxe 

[CroNich]

5 hours ago, TomTom2288 said:

The New York Times just dragged her again in an article about flopping pop stars who are only celebrated on Stan Twitter...enough .

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/arts/music/pop-musics-middle-class.html

Are NY times on Dr. Puke's payroll... like wtf is this and why is this article even necessary? Yes lets make fun of the SA survivor for flopping, even though a big part of the reason she has become 'a flop' is because of her abuser. Like could they not have wrote an article about how she just released her best and most personal album of her career.... like what?

 

Honestly I'm over this ******* simulation, nothing makes sense, bad people win, good people suffer. The human race is a disgrace. 

[CroNich]

4 hours ago, bearman said:

It sucks but sadly there is some truth to it. The popularity decay she experienced is very significant. Of course the lawsuit played a role, but her team also made a lot of mistakes that lead to people losing interest. No matter how you look at it, the album didn’t chart anywhere and there is no discourse around her at all. 

The promotion for the album though was minimal and very personal. She still has not had a single live television performance, or a big day time TV or late night talk show interview. I understand the writers strike has had an impact but of course its not going to make much noise if information about the album isn't readily accessible to the wider public. Like you would've had to been following her on instagram or twitter to even know she's released new music, which as we know, she doesn't have a huge following because she had to silence herself because of the ******* legal stuff.

 

At this point, she just needs to continue focusing on serving quality and doing what she wants. Who cares about mainstream appeal. Her music speaks for itself. Its not her fault that 99% of the GP are too obtuse or simple-minded to want to listen to anything other than shitty male rappers/country singers and Taylor Swift (no shade to TS). 

 

I think I'm also worked up cause even my friends who have been fans gave the album half a listen and were like nahhh this is boring. Like sorry she isn't pandering to your lame simple asses and writing mindless bops so you can go off at the club, like ffs. Success or no success she deserves respect and she deserves her flowers and sadly she doesn't seem to be getting any of that even though she arguably released one of the best albums of the year, and its just sitting there being paid dust.

[CroNich]

Sorry for the triple post, I'm just sad, I really thought something was going to happen with this album when I first heard it. I truly believed it was too good not to flop, but I guess I underestimated how **** the GPs taste are these days. 

 

Oh well, at least her tour is selling well and from what I recall thats one of her favourite parts of being a musician so I'm sure she's going to have a fun rest of the year, and she's free now at the end of the day, thats all that really matters.

[collin]

Please no meltdowns!  She is going to be fine. This album couldn’t have had less commercial appeal or promotion and in the end we’ve been fed. Be happy we didn’t get another High Road. This is a contender for her best album.

[bearman]

I honestly don't think the NYT article is shady or gratuitous. It's crazy how she went from being one of the biggest pop stars in the world to barely charting. 90% of other pop stars did the same kind of promo this year and still did better. Eat The Acid was #4 on Spotify's New Music Friday which is the biggest kind of promo you can do in 2023. It's easy to blame everyone else, but the fact is a lot of the career damage came from her camp. 

 

The truth is, Gag Order is not the problem. It's everything that happened after Rainbow. Remember when all her existence revolved around selling her clothes on eBay for months at end? That's just one example but they truly ruined all the positive hype she got from Rainbow especially during High Road. She should have been performing in arenas at this stage of her career and able to tour outside the US which seems like nearly impossible. 

 

Gag Order is the best move she made since 2017 and hopefully the beginning of a course correction. 

Edited August 15, 2023 by bearman

[CroNich]

Yes sorry for the meltdowns I recently quit weed so I’m a bit touchy, appreciate the re-assurance. Also I didn’t actually read the NY times article, I don’t have an account so I may have jumped the gun on that one .

 

I agree they really dropped the ball after Rainbow, however it really seems based on her recent social media activity she was really restricted with what she could do while the case was ongoing, so I do think that is partly to blame.

 

I also agree Gag Order was a great artistic move/direction for her and just like her fellow pop girl flops (Charli, Carly etc.), if she keeps releasing what she wants and serves quality the fan base will build back up over time.

 

I was talking to my friend about it and he said from a non-stan perspective the album just lacks a punch and is a grower and unfortunately without a big fanbase releasing something like this it’s going to be harder to attract a wider audience. I disagree about the album lacking a punch, I just think it’s more subtle and her casual fans are use to something a bit more instant.

 

I do think the future is so bright, she keeps re-peaking artistically so I’m very excited for what to come, whether she remains a commercial ‘flop’ or not. 

[TomTom]

4 hours ago, bearman said:

90% of other pop stars did the same kind of promo this year and still did better.

Such as?

 

4 hours ago, bearman said:

The truth is, Gag Order is not the problem. It's everything that happened after Rainbow. Remember when all her existence revolved around selling her clothes on eBay for months at end? That's just one example but they truly ruined all the positive hype she got from Rainbow especially during High Road. She should have been performing in arenas at this stage of her career and able to tour outside the US which seems like nearly impossible. 

I don’t think High Road even made enough noise to have done that kind of damage. Many artists that are more successful than her can’t even tour arenas (she only solo-performed in arenas for a hot second in 2011) and they barely even tried touring overseas, so we don’t know how that would perform on a large scale.

[TomTom]

4 hours ago, collin said:

Please no meltdowns!  She is going to be fine. This album couldn’t have had less commercial appeal or promotion and in the end we’ve been fed. Be happy we didn’t get another High Road. This is a contender for her best album.

 

5 hours ago, CroNich said:

Are NY times on Dr. Puke's payroll... like wtf is this and why is this article even necessary? Yes lets make fun of the SA survivor for flopping, even though a big part of the reason she has become 'a flop' is because of her abuser. Like could they not have wrote an article about how she just released her best and most personal album of her career.... like what?

Kesha remains unbothered enjoying her freedom, probably having received a fat check from Luke, having released her highest audience-rated album and most likely adding more dates to her well-selling tour in the near future.

 

Take that, whatever stan journalist wrote this completely unnecessary paragraph.

[CroNich]

2 hours ago, TomTom2288 said:

 

Kesha remains unbothered enjoying her freedom, probably having received a fat check from Luke, having released her highest audience-rated album and most likely adding more dates to her well-selling tour in the near future.

 

Take that, whatever stan journalist wrote this completely unnecessary paragraph.

Absolutely, our queen is happy, rich and free and we love to see it 

[TomTom]

 

[Vixen Eyes]

2 hours ago, TomTom2288 said:

 

YLIMD