base talk Songs Meant for / Passed on / Taken by Beyoncé (Master-list)

[trainsskyscrapers]

17 hours ago, dangerousalex said:

I don't think "Addiction" was ever pitched for Beyonce?

 

She played it a demo on Instagram Live in 2018, most of the songs played eventually made it onto Hot Pink. 

 

 

This is the one I'm most unsure about, because P2J and Ari PenSmith didn't really have any big records sent and placed on US records until Goldlink's project released near the Lion King project. I simply assumed something this glossy came from The Gift writing camp where they ended up placing 6 tracks. You're probably right though when looking at the timeline as well as the speed in which Beyoncé's album came to be.

[justinxx]

Halo - Leona Lewis

[trainsskyscrapers]

21 hours ago, nathanspears said:

Not sure how true/accurate this is but apparently Beyonce and her team took an interest in Loreen's I'm In It With You but Loreen kept it. Does this also count towards the thread?

 

https://www.expressen.se/noje/loreens-beyonce-diss-da-fick-de-ett-fett-nej/

 

 

Added!

 

Also added "Won't Be Late" by Swae Lee, Drake & Tekno into the "possibly" category. 

 

 

Sounds like a possible "The Gift" submission that didn't make it. 

[yamiyuuuu]

4 hours ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

 

Whoops. @KatyPrismSpirit Just edited. It was actually sent to Chrisette Michele first. Sorry to both of you.

Hehe it's okay, I love your thread!

I like to imagine the songs being sung by the artists they were supposed to be for

[Babydoll.]

Ch-Ching with Bey's voice would have been saur CUTE

[Scorp]

Bey doing Counting Stars  the slayage ahhhh 

 

"Babbyy I been, I been the Queen B..."

 

[FightDragonsWithMe]

This thread has me listening to BC Jean and being strangely nostalgic for her 

 

i respect Beyoncés way of making every song unapologetically hers tho 

[The7thStranger]

Drake's Heated is yikes.

[KillingYourCareer]

Very interesting list! All About That Bass

[naval23]

If only Bey took LOTB she would've hopefully given it a MV at least 

 

Kelly's Miss Independent is the most shocking one to me

[Jeremiah]

Cute thread. I actually have something similar worked on with Britney, but got so many songs with official source pending.

 

That's how I know too that "Flaws and All" was meant for Britney before Beyoncé. I finally found confirmation by Ne-Yo last year. (1:27:00)

 

 

And just to mention, "All About That Bass" is true but to an extent. Meghan said she was told they would be pitching the song to all these artists but doesn't know if it really happened or how far the song made it to artists' camp. (2:47)

 

 

[trainsskyscrapers]

I told you guys I would keep updating this list with new intel as I received it, and the new one for today is Destiny's Child 2001 smash "Survivor".

As mentioned by producer Anthony Dent in a Q&A session, the beat was actually made for another Queen Bee.... Lil' Kim. He made something "aggressive" and envisioned Kim, but I'm not sure if he even pitched it to her, if something fell through on that end, or if him playing it at this B session was a mistake. 

 

[trainsskyscrapers]

On 1/15/2023 at 10:08 AM, Jeremiah said:

 

That's how I know too that "Flaws and All" was meant for Britney before Beyoncé. I finally found confirmation by Ne-Yo last year. (1:27:00)

Thank you! Added. I hope your thread comes to fruition one day because so many people are under the misconception that Britney was not the Rihanna or B of her day where people made tracks specifically for her, she had first pick from the writing camp/CD of beats, and then songs were shopped around the industry if her team turned them down. Only a few girls who accept songs from others in the music industry have that "first pick" power: Whitney (80s), Janet, Mariah (90s), Britney, Beyonce, Rihanna, Adele. 

Edited January 19, 2023 by trainsskyscrapers

[Destiny]

Tamia’s “So Into You” @trainsskyscrapers

[trainsskyscrapers]

27 minutes ago, Destiny said:

Tamia’s “So Into You” @trainsskyscrapers

Thank you! Added! 

(Also added an article in case anyone wants to find out more)

https://globalgrind.com/5536012/beyonce-tamia-so-into-you-demo/

[trainsskyscrapers]

On 1/15/2023 at 10:08 AM, Jeremiah said:

And just to mention, "All About That Bass" is true but to an extent. Meghan said she was told they would be pitching the song to all these artists but doesn't know if it really happened or how far the song made it to artists' camp. (2:47)

 

 

Not an insider by any means, but I think it had a pretty good chance of getting to her team at least. At the time (based on Billboard & NME articles), B was compiling tracks for a throwback-themed album that was going to pay homage to "Doowop, Diana Ross, Aretha Franklin, D'Angelo, 90s R&B, and Prince". Cross-referencing the teams involved in the articles, tracks that were spoken about, and the songs we know that were in contention (coupled with a few ??? ones), I have a feeling the album submissions looked something like this in late 2012 / early 2013 (not including the Hamptons sessions that added a whole bunch of "international, anthemic songs" (Pretty Hurts, XO, Footprints, Standing On The Sun, Rise Up, Jealous, God Made You Beautiful), the NYC sessions at Oven/Jungle City Studios that were more "urban-based" alongside Jay-Z & Justin Timberlake making their own albums in the same space (DIL, Grown Woman, YONCE, Mine, Flawless, Partition), and Chairlift/Boots coming in with darker, left-field sounds):

 

"Wake Up" (Pharrell, The-Dream) - Doowop/Diana Ross

"Superpower" (Frank Ocean, Pharrell) - Doowop/Aretha*

"All About That Bass" (Meghan Trainor, Kevin Kadish) - Doowop

"Love On The Brain" (Fred Ball, Joseph Angel) - Aretha

"Rocket" (Miguel, JT, Timbaland, James Fauntleroy) - D'Angelo/90s R&B* (I think she spliced additional registered track "Free Fall" here)

"Blow" (Pharrell, Timbaland, The-Dream, James Fauntleroy) - Prince* (I think she spliced additional registered track "Cherry" here for the bridge)

"Donk" (The-Dream, Pharrell) - 90s R&B (A snippet leaked but unreleased)

"Part II (On The Run)" (Timbaland, James Fauntleroy) - 90s R&B

 

*(Made the completed album)

Edited January 19, 2023 by trainsskyscrapers

[Jeremiah]

On 1/19/2023 at 4:45 PM, trainsskyscrapers said:

Thank you! Added. I hope your thread comes to fruition one day because so many people are under the misconception that Britney was not the Rihanna or B of her day where people made tracks specifically for her, she had first pick from the writing camp/CD of beats, and then songs were shopped around the industry if her team turned them down. Only a few girls who accept songs from others in the music industry have that "first pick" power: Whitney (80s), Janet, Mariah (90s), Britney, Beyonce, Rihanna, Adele. 

Maybe I should just go ahead and post the ones pending aside so others could help me compile the receipts/sources.

 

Btw, I know she was a feature, but you're missing "Telephone," again first meant for Britney.

[trainsskyscrapers]

1 hour ago, Jeremiah said:

Btw, I know she was a feature, but you're missing "Telephone," again first meant for Britney.

Added! Thanks.

[GraceRandolph]

Queen of recycling.

[trainsskyscrapers]

1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said:

Queen of recycling.

You couldn't resist. How undisciplined. 

[Pepo]

4 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Queen of recycling.

And yet she's the most acclaimed artist of our time unlike Gaga. Go cry in a corner 

 

OT: Very interesting. Thank you. 

[swissman]

On 1/19/2023 at 2:39 PM, trainsskyscrapers said:

I told you guys I would keep updating this list with new intel as I received it, and the new one for today is Destiny's Child 2001 smash "Survivor".

As mentioned by producer Anthony Dent in a Q&A session, the beat was actually made for another Queen Bee.... Lil' Kim. He made something "aggressive" and envisioned Kim, but I'm not sure if he even pitched it to her, if something fell through on that end, or if him playing it at this B session was a mistake. 

 

I love hearing stuff like this, especially how some of her biggest pop hits were meant for hip-hop artists...it really shows the bridge between her and hip-hop that was happening at the time...like how Jumpin' Jumpin' was mistakenly sent to Bey, she wrote a whole song for it and then sent it to the producer who was like "wait no this was not meant for you this was for a rapper!" and then had no choice but to let her have the beat because she did such a good job on it.

[swissman]

Wasn't Usher's My Boo originally offered to Beyoncé?

[trainsskyscrapers]

1 hour ago, swissman said:

Wasn't Usher's My Boo originally offered to Beyoncé?

Just did a little research and the demo was recorded by Usher and a female singer named Kortney Kaycee Leveringston who seemingly put on her best Beyoncé impression.

 

 

For that reason, I'm definitely putting this theory in the "plausible theory" bucket, especially with him appearing in the Naughty Girl video and her appearing on his tour. 

 

Thank you for your contribution! 

 

1 hour ago, swissman said:

...like how Jumpin' Jumpin' was mistakenly sent to Bey, she wrote a whole song for it and then sent it to the producer who was like "wait no this was not meant for you this was for a rapper!" and then had no choice but to let her have the beat because she did such a good job on it.

Yup! Just found that excerpt from the Becoming Beyoncé book on Reddit. Adding that too!

Thank you!

 

[trainsskyscrapers]

Hey y'all. Just watched a Rico Love video about the making of "Sweet Dreams" and found another record that B turned down made in the same Miami session: "Paint This House" that ended up on Brandy's "Two Eleven".

 

 

Edited January 27, 2023 by trainsskyscrapers