fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Pluto6]

Just now, elevate said:

Ryujin has always been the main face of Itzy, MV wise anyway, and I think that's simply a representation of JYP's old thinking. Itzy = different, unique, self-love = Dalla Dalla = Ryujin, who has the most tomboyish image of the group. That's it. JYP can see Yuna go viral in fancams but still not change a thing because that's not what Itzy is.

 

That said, they've definitely given Chaeryeong more lines over the years. She's taken a lot from Lia and Yeji and is essentially acting as a Lia replacement now. Yeji has always done the most because she's the most "all-rounder" of the group.

Chaeryeong is literally the best dancer of the group, and yet she’s barely given any centers or dance breaks though

[Pluto6]

Oh, this is going to effect YouTube bad

 

[hétérosexuelle]

lets not come for Yeji

 

she’s still the supermodel FACE CARD of 4th gen

 

[CrisPop]

Please!!

 

Yuna’s birthday cover video later today/tomorrow.

[Dialamba]

No need to drag the girls. Yuna, Ryujin, Yeji and Chaeryeong have the it factor.  Not everyone has that despite sabotage from the company. 

[Adama]

23 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

chaewon is the IT girl of hybe i think

Chaewon is popular but she’s not an It girl. Like she’s not that GIRL who can cause all this conversation like the past it girls 
 

[hétérosexuelle]

i wish seolhyun lasted longer as an IT girl cause she really was giving

 

[breadcrumbs]

5 hours ago, DelRey said:

We should do a quick personal ranking with the worst songs of the year.

Like a Top 5 for gg and a top 10 5 for bg  

 

 

In no particular order:

 

GGs

Stamp On It - GOT the beat

Slay - Everglow

Young, Dumb, Stupid - NMIXX

Who’s Next? - Lapillus

Cake - Itzy

 

BGs

Rockstar - xikers

Vroom Vroom - Tempest

S-Class - SKZ

Freakin’ Bad - Xdinary Heroes

Bona Bona - Treasure

 

 

Gosh, I can give like 10 more songs for BGs 

[harrythevifan]

9 minutes ago, breadcrumbs said:

Gosh, I can give like 10 more songs for BGs 

We're at an all time low in terms of quantity of girl group content.

 

[Sorecer]

There’s a rumor 3 SM female trainees will be revealed pretty soon 

 

they are Jiwoo, Haram and Jooeun 

SM also uploaded 3 private videos to the rookies section so I guess something is really coming 

[Witnessed ET]

King slaying with a self-written, self-composed song and a self-choreographed choreo @gigantopithecus Somebody THIS talented shouldn’t be this nugu 

 

 

[Kety]

2 hours ago, motherpills said:

her and tayeon have been looking real similar recently

Her and Winter are basically Taeyeon 2.0 & 3.0 visually. SM is obsessed with Taeyeon visual for real, even their male idols be looking liker her

[Witnessed ET]

1 hour ago, hallucinate said:

JYP won’t have an IT girl anytime soon sadly

#JusticeForYuna

 

The way that company has wasted so many IT girls over the years 

 

Nayeon

Sana

Tzuyu (although she’s kinda bland in charisma and wouldn’t go too far if pushed)

Yuna

Yeji

 

i mean the material was right there. The possibilities were endless. Idk why the Suzy situation scared them so much 

 

the fact that Nayeoncé succeeded despite finally getting her solo years after the group’s peak in Korea tells you all you need to know about her power and the IT girl potential that there was if the timing was paid attention to. 

[Hendery]

1 hour ago, New Edition said:

Hybe seems to be trying to turn Eunchae into an It Girl but Garam is the real It Girl who got away. I mean let's be honest, she had all the makings of one, including one hell of a stank eye.

 

Eunchae I'm afraid can't bring the drama like that

In a way I kinda feel like LSF would be even bigger (mainly domestically) with Garam in the group if the scandal didn’t exist. People underestimate the importance of a solid Korean visual center member (cause they will never let a foreigner be an IT girl). Wonder how the new belift/hybe GG will do since they seem very visually stacked 

[armink]

Well, longevity is what matters at the end 

 

[Zack]

26 minutes ago, Sorecer said:

There’s a rumor 3 SM female trainees will be revealed pretty soon 

 

they are Jiwoo, Haram and Jooeun 

SM also uploaded 3 private videos to the rookies section so I guess something is really coming 

I wonder how many of these known trainees will actually debut. Apparently Helen debut is under question and there is conflicting news. 

 

There will probably be private/hidden trainees who will debut too. For example Giselle wasn't known about before debut. Same with Joy. 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Zack

[hallucinate]

leeseo’s tone doesn’t always hit but she just sounds so beautiful here 

Edited December 8, 2023 by hallucinate

[New Edition]

21 minutes ago, Kety said:

Her and Winter are basically Taeyeon 2.0 & 3.0 visually. SM is obsessed with Taeyeon visual for real, even their male idols be looking liker her

Okay now I'm curious which male idols look like Taeyeon??

 

And is it me or is Jang Wonyoung and Karina starting to look like each other 

 

13 minutes ago, Hendery said:

In a way I kinda feel like LSF would be even bigger (mainly domestically) with Garam in the group if the scandal didn’t exist. People underestimate the importance of a solid Korean visual center member (cause they will never let a foreigner be an IT girl). Wonder how the new belift/hybe GG will do since they seem very visually stacked 

 

I'll It (is that how you spell their name??) has less TikTok followers than Katseye and Vcha so idk girl...... I think if you go too heavy in the direction of what Korea wants and likes your group will be boring asf.

 

3 minutes ago, Zack said:

I wonder how many of these known trainees will actually debut. Apparently Helen debut is under question and there is conflicting news. 

 

There will probably be private/hidden trainees who will debut too. For example Giselle wasn't known about before debut. Same with Joy. 

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if after the Seunghan situation they took another look at these girls' pasts and made sure no one would have something leaked upon debut. Trouble makers kicked out before being revealed unless they're just too crucial to the group.

[geniecantstophypeboy]

4 hours ago, New Edition said:

This is SO interesting.

 

I also think all Kpop tends to get lumped together whereas Afrobeats and Latin artists still maintain some element of individuality despite being in the same genre together. Like Tyla's success is Tyla's success, not all of Afrobeats's success.

 

I'm more intrigued and fascinated by KPOP dying in South East Asia. I have seen some local groups rising in Thailand etc. but I am wondering if there's a larger social/cultural or even political reason as to why SEA is less into Korean **** these days.

Kpop fans are also more inclined to casually follow all Kpop artists and keep up with all the releases. You never read that x music genre is saturated in other music communities but that's not an uncommon sentiment in Kpop despite fewer active Kpop artists. South Korea is a small country and Kpop is a tight-knit community. Idols are under the same labels, know, talk and interact with each other often and so do the fans.

 

Bang PD attributed the decline in SEA to BTS hiatus. Kpop isn't dying in SEA but that was also the first time it was showing negative growth I think. I can't find the exact article I remember reading, IIRC it was along the lines of -3-5% negative growth overall. I haven't read any in-depth article about the Kpop album sales bubble, I feel like the ups and downs in physical sales and how it reflects on Kpop music consumption is unclear atp.

[youresotoxic]

 

[youresotoxic]

 

[geniecantstophypeboy]

32 minutes ago, Hendery said:

In a way I kinda feel like LSF would be even bigger (mainly domestically) with Garam in the group if the scandal didn’t exist. People underestimate the importance of a solid Korean visual center member (cause they will never let a foreigner be an IT girl). Wonder how the new belift/hybe GG will do since they seem very visually stacked 

Is Garam the biggest it girl ever? Kpop fans can't seem to take her name out of their mouth.

[gigantopithecus]

47 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

King slaying with a self-written, self-composed song and a self-choreographed choreo @gigantopithecus Somebody THIS talented shouldn’t be this nugu 

 

 

The MV still not reaching 2 million is honestly kinda funny at this point He really is nugu'd even to his own fanbase

[Queenyoncee]

Speaking of It Girls 

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Queenyoncee

[geniecantstophypeboy]

1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said:

Oh, this is going to effect YouTube bad

 

That's tricky because spotify is not popular in South Korea  whereas youtube is.