fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[motherpills]

1 hour ago, TheCal said:

 

 

Legends were born that day

 

i love how the kpop girlies debut with 22 inch jet black bust downs only for them to end up having fried yellow bobs by the second comeback

[Mitsuki]

3 minutes ago, Panda17 said:

@Mitsuki What do you think about the rumors related to a November/December, 24 comeback?

I posted about It a few hours ago, but you weren't online to discuss with me 

 

I saw tokkis theorizing It could be possibly a song release on November 24, since It's a friday, but a K-tokki (who I suppose was on the secret pre-recording and signed the nda) debunked

 

 

Now I really don't know what to think. At the same time I can see It being a stage for Billboard Music Awards, I see It being related to a new song release. It could be a droplet or a pre-release. 

 

What do you think? 

 

 

[Pluto6]

55 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Because it’s the only chart in the world that weeds out mass streaming. It’s why I love Circle - other charts are super easy to manipulate. Twitter has tons of guides that show stans how to get up to 20,000 streams a day unfiltered on Spotify using just one device. Circle doesn’t allow that fraudulence whereas Spotify encourages it (they even leave fake streams in their overall play numbers which are shown on artist profiles). Then at the end of the year, we see people bragging about how they’re top listeners and have contributed impossible listen counts for artists.

 

The reason I brought that up in this thread was because one member claimed SKZ has a better discography than Red Velvet because they have higher streams. But using Circle, we can see that the majority of their streams are from fanbase streaming. It’s already a false equivalence argument, but then to use numbers showing that the same people are streaming nonstop is just daft.

 

I gave SKZ a chance when you suggested them and, while I liked Case 143, the rest of their discography was below average - which is par for a boy group. I don’t see how anyone that isn’t sexually attracted to SKZ could argue that SKZ have a better discography when RV have In My Dreams, Psycho, Red Flavor, Marionette, Swimming Pool, Ice Cream Cake and Dumb Dumb. They’re both coming back in a week and the difference in quality from the teasers is already drastic.

I’ll give them a pity stream just for you. But if you’re setting me up the way Pluto did by making me listen to SKZ, I’m asking Ryan to ban you.

 

Just smile and nod 

 

50 minutes ago, Adama said:

 

Well they have a better debut yes. 

 

be serious 

 

1 hour ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

But yeah Ms Pluta coming for a group that just had a successful debut is kinda rich considering SKZ had a whole Mnet reality show to kick off their debut and still were nugu'd until 2020

 

Girl, SKZ were never nugu like that, but just had a very slow start for Big 3 standards. And the only reason I came for your faves, is because your came for mine first. 

It's also funny how you point out that SKZ were "nugu" until 2020, which means your fave, Woojin has been "nugu" his whole career, since he left the group 1 comeback before SKZ's big break 

 

1 hour ago, hallucinate said:

i feel like 90% ‪of the hate towards stray kids in here is due to that one user 

sometimes the fans are the biggest enemy

Stop trying to blame me for the hate train that SKZ is getting in here as if they wouldn't get dragged regardless. The reason why I engage in these fanwars in here to begin with, is literally because of people constantly dragging SKZ unprovoked and starting hate trains, despite STAYS mostly minding their own business in here. I just give the same energy back to the haters and you won't really see me dragging other people's faves as much unless they come for mine first, simple as that 

[Panda17]

2 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

I posted about It a few hours ago, but you weren't online to discuss with me 

 

I saw tokkis theorizing It could be possibly a song release on November 24, since It's a friday, but a K-tokki (who I suppose was on the secret pre-recording and signed the nda) debunked

 

 

Now I really don't know what to think. At the same time I can see It being a stage for Billboard Music Awards, I see It being related to a new song release. It could be a droplet or a pre-release. 

 

What do you think? 

 

 

At first, I thought it was a performance for the Billboard Music Awards then I started to think about a possible comeback now I just don't know. Maybe a Christmas special?

[hallucinate]

3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Stop trying to blame me for the hate train that SKZ is getting in here as if they wouldn't get dragged regardless. The reason why I engage in these fanwars in here to begin with, is literally because of people constantly dragging SKZ unprovoked and starting hate trains, despite STAYS mostly minding their own business in here. I just give the same energy back to the haters and you won't really see me dragging other people's faves as much unless they come for mine first, simple as that 

your spamming and… interesting takes definitely sets them up to get more hate though

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by hallucinate

[Cheers]

Speaking of Strays vs Riize

 

Wouldn't it be hot to see Lee Know and Sungchan makeout? 

[Adama]

1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said:

be serious 

 

 

I am. Riize debut outcharted Stray kids debut  

[Adama]

Just now, Cheers said:

Speaking of Strays vs Riize

 

Wouldn't it be hot to see Lee Know and Sungchan makeout? 

The heights difference between these two 

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, Panda17 said:

At first, I thought it was a performance for the Billboard Music Awards then I started to think about a possible comeback now I just don't know. Maybe a Christmas special?

The Christmas special is a good bet. If It's nothing related to the comeback, I hope at least we get some hints about it when they drop what they pre-recorded 

[Pluto6]

7 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

your spamming and… interesting takes definitely sets them up to get more hate though

 

Again, most of the time I mind own my business especially when I talk about SKZ in here, since we have our own  little SKZ circle/base in here, that really doesn't have anything to do with y'all. This whole thing started when me and my bestie @Mitsuki where having our regular conversation about SKZ, and then suddenly people inserted themselves and dragged them unprovoked 

 

And SKZ are not even the most "spammed" bg at the moment, so I don't know why y'all are still are butt hurt over them? 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Mitsuki]

Since we are talking about my babies on the same page, these are my favorite crumbs 

 

 

 

 

[Panda17]

1 minute ago, Mitsuki said:

The Christmas special is a good bet. If It's nothing related to the comeback, I hope at least we get some hints about it when they drop what they pre-recorded 

I really want a late November comeback. We still don't know if the track they were supposed to perform at the Immortal Songs concert was GODS or a new track.

[Eternium]

25 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

yunallah really served IT girl here

I need to come out as a Yuna/Yeji stan.

 

[TheCal]

19 minutes ago, motherpills said:

i love how the kpop girlies debut with 22 inch jet black bust downs only for them to end up having fried yellow bobs by the second comeback

Yeah, that's why I love that they used blonde wigs for NJ 2nd comeback instead of destroying their hair

[Panda17]

Just now, Mitsuki said:

Since we are talking about my babies on the same page, these are my favorite crumbs 

 

 

 

 

That meme was very popular back then. Kudos to him. 

 

 

[Vrx.]

Heejin loser and flop yet again

Truly a forced plant

 

[Eternium]

1 minute ago, Panda17 said:

I really want a late November comeback. We still don't know if the track they were supposed to perform at the Immortal Songs concert was GODS or a new track.

It’s much more likely that NJ have a full album coming in February. That should be right around the same time NMIXX release their full album. 
 

HYBE still has to get LSF’s next project out before NJ’s.

[Mitsuki]

4 minutes ago, Panda17 said:

I really want a late November comeback. We still don't know if the track they were supposed to perform at the Immortal Songs concert was GODS or a new track.

At first I also thought about their performance being GODS. But then I realized.It doesn't make sense, especially since the Immortal Songs was on October and we were expecting them to perform it on League of Legends World Championship on November (and was confirmed), so I bet they'd want the exclusivity to the girls performing It there first. I suppose It is a different song. 

 

But wait... what If the secret performance is really exactly what and how they'd perform on IS, but couldn't? 

 

[Pluto6]

2 hours ago, Flomik said:

The only aspect where they're ahead (simply because they've been around longer enough to tour)

 

RIIZE's debut:

#4 Bugs (=)

#16 MelOn Top100 (+10)

#34 FLO (+1)

#35 Genie (+15)

 

Not bad for the floppiest bg!

 

TREASURE's debut:

OUT!

I don't even stan them, but TREASURE's debut aka the best bg debut of all time was way bigger on streaming though

 

Their pre-debut release was also way bigger than RIIZE's

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Panda17]

2 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

At first I also thought about their performance being GODS. But then I realized.It doesn't make sense, especially since the Immortal Songs was on October and we were expecting them to perform it on League of Legends World Championship on November (and was confirmed), so I bet they'd want the exclusivity to the girls performing It there first. I suppose It is a different song. 

 

But wait... what If the secret performance is really exactly what and how they'd perform on IS, but couldn't? 

 

I just don't get why 4 pre-recordings 2 per day. It doesn't seem to be a single/pre-release normal schedule. They were definitely recording more than one song. 

[BellKat]

We don't talk enough about the way Jungkook album-bombed (KPOP) Spotify 

A moment 

 

[illia]

2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

I don't even stan them, but TREASURE's debut aka the best bg debut of all time was way bigger on streaming though

 

I mean... obviously? The song is over 3 years old, it would be embarassing if it didn't have more streams

 

 

I would also mention that RIIZE's debut single album is literally outselling all Treasure albums except for REBOOT but I don't wanna go too far

 

[Eternium]

35 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Just smile and nod 

 

 

Don’t forget to leave your playlists on a loop  

[Mitsuki]

9 minutes ago, Panda17 said:

I just don't get why 4 pre-recordings 2 per day. It doesn't seem to be a single/pre-release normal schedule. They were definitely recording more than one song. 

Wait, I didn't know It was 4. Now the Christmas Special you suggested could be more possible, something like a fanmeeting, but more intimate? 

[Pluto6]

17 minutes ago, BellKat said:

We don't talk enough about the way Jungkook album-bombed (KPOP) Spotify 

A moment 

 

This is insane, honestly, and at this point he doesn't really need the group anymore. I honestly don't understand why he has to enlist with the other members instead of focusing on his solo career instead? Truly main pop boy material (Jimin and V as well)

 

14 minutes ago, Flomik said:

I mean... obviously? The song is over 3 years old, it would be embarassing if it didn't have more streams

 

 

I would also mention that RIIZE's debut single album is literally outselling all Treasure albums except for REBOOT but I don't wanna go too far

 

No no, you got it wrong, these songs were bigger during release on streaming.

 

Btw RIIZE selling 1M copies while doing less streams than Kiss Of Life is not talked about enough

 

9 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Don’t forget to leave your playlists on a loop  

This is literally what most fandom does though?

Anyways Stray Kids have already surpassed RV in most metrics, worry about that instead

Edited November 4, 2023 by Pluto2022