fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[youresotoxic]

Just now, Sailor Moon said:

Both EXO and Red Velvet could've been way bigger if SM actually did their job right 

SM just truly confuses me  two of the biggest fumbles in kpop

[illia]

16 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

and worry about TREASURE being the floppiest bg in recent Big 3 history

Fixed it

 

[JonginBey]

3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

So according to you RIIZE has a bigger career than Stray Kids? 

Just remember that it was your level of comprehension skills that led you here.

 

 

[Zack]

4 minutes ago, youresotoxic said:

well that's SM's fault... the tour was a whole mess, even with the scheduling and getting tickets

True, the tour was planned horribly...though they still sold out dates including the opening ones at KSPO Dome...the demand is there

[Pluto6]

1 minute ago, JonginBey said:

Just remember that it was your level of comprehension skills that led you here.

 

 

Giiiiiiiiirl, no comment

[youresotoxic]

2 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

Don't forget we just had this #2 Melon peaking renassiance avant garde smash last year and they were on their 8th year. Not many can achieve this I'm afraid 

 

can't forget this for Birthday their supposed "flop" album.

a smash hit and their best selling album all in their 8th year! 

 

[Queenyoncee]

15 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

Hitmakers and no payola 

 

--

 

RV may not had Twice and BP's commercial peak but like who else are  consistently serving quality,  growing in sales/demand at this point of their career 9 years in the game mind y'all and like are coming back in 2 weeks  

They didn't have the same commercial peak as Twix but at least more longevity in terms of hits and popularity among the public. Also Irene was during her peak more relevant than any Twix member (their individual popularity always sucked so no surprise).

[Eternium]

2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

 

It's funny how gg stans always use domestic charting as the only metric of success  You wanna compare album sales, touring or streaming? The fact that SKZ are selling out DOMES IN KOREA while RV are doing theaters in Korea, despite having the "hits" or whatever over there 

Check yourself because I always make it a point that domestic digitals are not overly significant. Why I’ve brought them up in this instance is because Circle weeds out fraudulent fanbase-driven streaming. So when you downplay Red Velvet’s music quality because more people are supposedly streaming Stray Kidz, it’s important to add context and show that in the only country in the world that weeds out mass streaming from fanbases, Stray Kidz are bombing.

 

If the fans care about their music so much, then how come they have less than 16M total certified streams?

[hallucinate]

13 minutes ago, motherpills said:

 

which BSIDEOTY are you guys claiming? My pick is Nightmare 

iced coffee and one kiss 

it will be a great 1-2 punch methinks

Edited November 4, 2023 by hallucinate

[Pluto6]

2 minutes ago, Flomik said:

Fixed it

 

Girl TREASURE are the 2nd best touring act in 4th gen after SKZ if I'm not mistaken

[Sailor Moon]

The industry was SHOOK.

 

[Mitsuki]

Having a domestic hit would be an addition to Stray Kids' amazing career. They already have everything a domestic digital hit can province to a group.

 

What is brand deals/endorsements/CFs, both domestically and abroad, expansive popularity globally within the niche, domes in South Korea, a lot groups consistently covering and dancing to multiple of their songs, producers mentioning on social media agencies ask for songs like Stray Kids to their newer groups and many rookies being influenced by them to enter the industry. 

 

They were even recognized by the government itself. 

 

I genuinely don't know what more that they take from this. As I said, It would be very nice, but I'm not sure what would severely change. 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Mitsuki

[Save-Me-Oprah]

But yeah Ms Pluta coming for a group that just had a successful debut is kinda rich considering SKZ had a whole Mnet reality show to kick off their debut and still were nugu'd until 2020

 

[Zack]

8 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

The industry was SHOOK.

 

Correction: The WORLD was shook

Edited November 4, 2023 by Zack

[Eternium]

8 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

So according to you RIIZE has a bigger career than Stray Kids? 

Can you try rereading again because you’re clearly not following your own conversation? You said that RIIZE are massive flops. I just posted their stats and related it to your own faves. 
 

I don’t care to speculate on where RIIZE will end up or anything because I haven’t bothered to check them out and I hate SM, but now you’re just trying to downplay everyone and you have no grasp of what the stats actually look like. So I’m posting them for you.

[hallucinate]

i feel like 90% ‪of the hate towards stray kids in here is due to that one user 

sometimes the fans are the biggest enemy

Edited November 4, 2023 by hallucinate

[illia]

Just now, Pluto2022 said:

Girl TREASURE are the 2nd best touring act in 4th gen after SKZ if I'm not mistaken

The only aspect where they're ahead (simply because they've been around longer enough to tour)

 

RIIZE's debut:

#4 Bugs (=)

#16 MelOn Top100 (+10)

#34 FLO (+1)

#35 Genie (+15)

 

Not bad for the floppiest bg!

 

TREASURE's debut:

OUT!

[ItsJustMe.]

53 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

I'm kinda sad Youtube died, I miss the time when K-pop groups put more effort on their MVs, since It was a big form of promotion. 

at least we still have NewJeans serving art 

[Dialamba]

5 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said:

They didn't have the same commercial peak as Twix but at least more longevity in terms of hits and popularity among the public. Also Irene was during her peak more relevant than any Twix member (their individual popularity always sucked so no surprise).

Girl shut up  all the members even the irrelevant members are more booked than Irene.
so longevity > quick peak 

 

And Nayeon was the most popular female idol in 2018  so I don’t know what are you talking about 

[TheCal]

 

 

Legends were born that day

 

[Pluto6]

15 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Check yourself because I always make it a point that domestic digitals are not overly significant. Why I’ve brought them up in this instance is because Circle weeds out fraudulent fanbase-driven streaming. So when you downplay Red Velvet’s music quality because more people are supposedly streaming Stray Kidz, it’s important to add context and show that in the only country in the world that weeds out mass streaming from fanbases, Stray Kidz are bombing.

 

If the fans care about their music so much, then how come they have less than 16M total certified streams?

I don't understand why you pull up Korean streams only? It's literally a known fact that SKZ are bigger outside of Korea especially Japan and have the most diverse global streaming composition:

These are the 5 biggest Kpop acts right now, and you can see their regional streaming, with SKZ being the most diverse and being least dependent on Asia, since it only makes 39 % of their total on demand streams while it makes over 50 % for the others in the list

Edited November 4, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Mitsuki]

When we went for RIIZE x Treasure 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

5 minutes ago, Eternium said:

I don’t care to speculate on where RIIZE will end up or anything because I haven’t bothered to check them out and I hate SM

So why were you saying that BGs haven't been giving good music or good concepts and are a stain on the industry, when you just admitted haven't even bothered to check out what is one of the most successful and acclaimed BG debut in recent memory

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Just now, Mitsuki said:

When we went for RIIZE x Treasure 

yeah but I love this song

 

[Mitsuki]

4 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

at least we still have NewJeans serving art 

NewJeans is a breath of fresh air in K-pop, related to multiple things.

 

And It's one of the reasons why I love them 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Mitsuki