fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Pluto6]

2 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

That song was the beginning of string of hits...

 

RV's highest charting songs in SK:

#1 Red Flavor

#1 Power Up

#2 Psycho

#2 Dumb Dumb

#2 Bad Boy

#2 Russian Roulette

#2 Peek-a-Boo

 

 

Stray Kids highest charting:

#29 () 

 

most streamed song on spotify:

RV - Psycho (423M)

SK - Gods Menu (302M)

Girl: 

 

RV total Spotify streams: 2,9B

SKZ Spotify streams in 2023 alone: 2,1B 

 

The fact that SKZ have gained almost the same amount of streams in 2023 alone than RV has in their total career 

[Mitsuki]

Just now, Sailor Moon said:

That song was the beginning of string of hits...

 

RV's highest charting songs in SK:

#1 Red Flavor

#1 Power Up

#2 Psycho

#2 Dumb Dumb

#2 Bad Boy

#2 Russian Roulette

#2 Peek-a-Boo

 

 

Stray Kids highest charting:

#29 () 

 

most streamed song on spotify:

RV - Psycho (423M)

SK - Gods Menu (302M)

What is the logic behind comparing a group with 5.9B total Spotify streams with another group with 2.9B using one song?

[luizinho]

Well, SKZ's bsides being more streamed than NCT's title, I think we can see who's making listenable songs

[Antisocialites]

you need to "Beat It"

that boy Michael Jackson "Bad"

an neoui "Billie Jean"i anya

don't you "Leave Me Alone"
hajiman aemaehan baneung nan wonhae "Black Or White"
pogi mothae naui "Man In the Mirror"

"why You Wanna Trip On Me"
neon neomu jitgutji
boy, you make me "Scream"
neoege wae ireoji
hagin neoui "Love" jeongmal "Never Felt So Good"
geugeon ama jjarithada mothae watching the "Thriller"

 

 

if you get it, you get it and if you don't, you are just simply missing out.

Slay Slay's rap is on the same level of camp as fromis_9's "sangsang sok nan Ariana Geurande, nuga bol ttaen eomeo jyae tto wae geureondae" in FUN!

both classics, both smashes.

 

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Why are we comparing Red Velvet stats to Stray Kids in the first place when it's well known to everyone in kpop that girlgroups and boygroups have completely different sets of criteria for what is considered success?

 

It's like comparing apples & oranges.

 

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, Sailor Moon said:

While NCT do release a lot of "noise" music, they are able to make it listenable

It's time for people to find out about it, I guess. Cause not even their fans are liking it enough. 

[luizinho]

No but for real, if it's so listenable then why the **** no one is listening

It's okay you guys don't like the songs but is so funny how hard yall try to convince the world (and yourself) that people don't listen to skz

[luizinho]

1 minute ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

Why are we comparing Red Velvet stats to Stray Kids in the first place when it's well known to everyone in kpop that girlgroups and boygroups have completely different sets of criteria for what is considered success?

 

It's like comparing apples & oranges.

 

Idk, like I said before, I don't know why RV stans like to go for stray kids over nothing, just don't make sense, idk if it's just cuz they were beated by twice and bp pr whatever. But if they started we can't do nothing 

[Mitsuki]

That's why I prefer to discuss objective stats and facts that I can rationalize about. I've never seen the point of discussing about a subjetive opinion that hold about the same power as mine. You just go nowhere. 

 

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Just now, luizinho said:

Idk, like I said before, I don't know why RV stans like to go for stray kids over nothing, just don't make sense, idk if it's just cuz they were beated by twice and bp pr whatever. But if they started we can't do nothing 

I can't be bothered to scroll back to find out where this argument started but I can say with almost 100% certainty that it was because Ms Pluta came for Red Velvet, not the other way around

 

someone please confirm y/n

 

[Pluto6]

It's so funny how NCT stans have this superiority complex over SKZ especially when both NCT and SKZ are literally in the same boat, in terms of some people hating their music for being too "noisy". But the difference between the both groups is that SKZ managed to become way more successful with their noise music, hence why they are the 2nd most streamed bg after BTS. 

[luizinho]

Just now, Save-Me-Oprah said:

I can't be bothered to scroll back to find out where this argument started but I can say with almost 100% certainty that it was because Ms Pluta came for Red Velvet, not the other way around

 

someone please confirm y/n

 

Not at all, we where just talking than the reveputies decided to start attacking skz. babypluto just paid on the same coin

[Mitsuki]

9 minutes ago, luizinho said:

Btw, did you listen to JK's album? it was better than I thought it would

I didn't yet! 

I love 'Seven', If the songs are as good, I will enjoy. 

 

But I have the impression I won't like it as much as D-Day and Indigo. I always prefered their rap line's style since the solo songs on their group albums. 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

2 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

That's why I prefer to discuss objective stats and facts that I can rationalize about.

That's fine and dandy but boygroup and girlgroup stats are not compatible comparisons. They just aren't.

 

[JonginBey]

2 minutes ago, luizinho said:

No but for real, if it's so listenable then why the **** no one is listening

It's okay you guys don't like the songs but is so funny how hard yall try to convince the world (and yourself) that people don't listen to skz

We know people are listening. The music is still bad.

 

 

It’s like when the same 10 people would stand in the cold to listen to Trump give a speech every now and then. You need a serotonin boost that bad?

 

[youresotoxic]

there is a certain Stray Kids stan that does come after Red Velvet for no reason sometimes too, so lets not 

[Pluto6]

5 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

I can't be bothered to scroll back to find out where this argument started but I can say with almost 100% certainty that it was because Ms Pluta came for Red Velvet, not the other way around

 

someone please confirm y/n

 

Stop trying to blame me for everything and trying to set me up, you weirdo, you should've known by now that I never attack other groups unprovoked. 

 

It was those 2 who started it all:

 

1 hour ago, BlackAura said:

Thank you Taylor.

 

 

1 hour ago, youresotoxic said:

who cares about #1's... we care about the MUSIC

which stray kids apparently don't care about either

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Mitsuki]

2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

It's so funny how NCT stans have this superiority complex over SKZ especially when both NCT and SKZ are literally in the same boat, in terms of some people hating their music for being too "noisy". But the difference between the both groups is that SKZ managed to become way more successful with their noise music, hence why they are the 2nd most streamed bg after BTS. 

Like? I see NCT stans consistently dragging them as much as the GG stans and It's really curious. 

If I had this energy... I forget NCT exists most of time (like the rest of K-pop community who don't even bother listening to their comeback once). 

[hallucinate]

10 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

It's time for people to find out about it, I guess. Cause not even their fans are liking it enough. 

not just the fans but the members as well

their reaction to sticker still sends me

[luizinho]

4 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

It's so funny how NCT stans have this superiority complex over SKZ especially when both NCT and SKZ are literally in the same boat, in terms of some people hating their music for being too "noisy". But the difference between the both groups is that SKZ managed to become way more successful with their noise music, hence why they are the 2nd most streamed bg after BTS. 

Any SM stan and superiority complex on the same sentence is pleonasm basically 

SKZ have no fault if all the push SM did on NCT resulted in nothing 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

everyone just needs to calm down and start talking saxy

 

 

[luizinho]

Is soooo annoying this "I don't like the music so is bad for everyone automaticall", I'm sorry babe, the world dont go around your ass, people still liking it and listening to it, should spend your energy giving some coins to your fave

[Antisocialites]

NCT wins this battle automatically for serving the best BG song of the year.  

 

[Mitsuki]

6 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

That's fine and dandy but boygroup and girlgroup stats are not compatible comparisons. They just aren't.

 

I agree with you and I wouldn't start something like that. I was only joking Taylor would block SKZ and suddenly a bunch of users started to drag them back to back. 

[Eternium]

28 minutes ago, Sailor Moon said:

They are streaming .. that's for sure, but are they listening?

Fun fact: Stray Kidz are almost entirely fanbase driven on streaming. Here’s their numbers on Circle, a chart that weeds out fanbase streaming:

 

S-Class: 51,710,289 (#34, 15 weeks)

Case 143: 25,532,952 (#69, 8 weeks)

No Easy: 15,470,939 (#33, 3 weeks)

Maniac: 14,942,210 (#29, 3 weeks)

Wolfgang: 5,225,293 (#138, 2 weeks)

Christmas EveL: 3,626,623 (#114, 1 week)

Winter Falls: 2,605,967 (#151, 1 week)

 

Now let’s look at just one Red Velvet song.

 

Psycho: 794,142,664 (#2, 70 weeks)

 

The girls trying to drag Red Velvet over streaming success when their faves are literally just living off of fanbase streams.