fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[jqnetto]

Just now, hallucinate said:

jini debut single out this wednesday

don’t forget to tune in ktrl

the way you already spent the opportunity to have her name in the thread title tho

 

[Sheep]

1 minute ago, dlwlrma said:

and SM will make 10 comebacks of NCT per year meanwhile sheeps here will cry screaming they hate Red Velvet or Aespa 

We had a VERY messy drought during SM's messy breakup era but SM had to keep funding these NCT comebacks somehow so now we get aespa content so fast it's hard to keep up with.

[dlwlrma]

NCT Seoul and NCT Jeju Island are coming next year

Hopefully we will not see any posts complaining about the push while they lack hits.
this metric doesn't matter 

[Adama]

19 minutes ago, Century said:

The point went right over your head. aespa has already had an enormous impact and influence and left the biggest mark on the culture out of their entire generation. Even their "flop" era dominated kpop discussion not just on here but everywhere around the world. Everything they do is huge because they're LEADERS.

Seems like you’re the only fanbase who still don’t want to accept that Newjeans is the leader of their generation, already left the biggest mark not only in their generation but accross all the generations and are the closet to SNSD and BP cultural impact

 

17 minutes ago, Zack said:

Please, not when 90% of the thread was lining up to call aespa "fraud" when they got 1 million pre-orders last year.

 

I should know, I had to multiquote it all when the sales did actually come true   

And it’s still doesn’t change the fact that the SM Stan are the one who always brought sajaegi against IVE .

 

17 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

JYP A&R's immediate reaction to Next Level's success made them rush out a girl group where the main concept was making songs that switch up halfway and it backfired horribly. Just because your perception of popularity relies on being entirely numerical doesn't mean that aespa haven't had an observable impact on the industry they work in and have other groups and companies chasing after the same success. 

First I never said that they didn’t have impact. But I would never compare aespa impact to SNDS be serious.

 

No one will take you seriously when you confidently say that they will have a bigger music legacy than IVE, when no one can predict the future and especially when IVE for now have plenty of popular songs and 2 popular idols! 
 

Also, if you want to use Nmixx you can, but this same group like most of the whole Kpop is now following the same sound, strategy and aesthetic of the new popular group . It lasted 2 eras. Congratulations I guess, but everyone moved on, perhaps it’s time for you to do the same 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Adama

[illia]

3 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

jini debut single out this wednesday

don’t forget to tune in ktrl

That Taylor Swift-esque song she previewed is stuck in my head

 

[hallucinate]

3 minutes ago, jqnetto said:

the way you already spent the opportunity to have her name in the thread title tho

 

i got the schedule mixed up and thought there was a pre-release single coming nnnn

[Sheep]

3 minutes ago, Adama said:

Seems like you’re the only fanbase who still don’t want to accept that Newjeans is the leader of their generation, already left the biggest mark not only their generation but accross all the generations and are the closet to SNSD and BP cultural impact

 

I'm a newjeans fan. They're up there but they haven't peaked yet and aren't even close to realizing their potential. I still believe their peak is going to make BTS and SNSD look indie. The only My I know of that don't live for newjeans are Eternium and Pluto and Pluto hardly counts as a My or a user.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Century

[Odette Violet]

NCT needs to be ban in all the faces of the earth, sorry for their stans here. 

 

 

Aespa and soon to be RIIZE can at least back up their sales with hits and quality 

 

[Pluto6]

If sales and touring matter the most (which is indeed true), then why does majority of the KTRL constantly drag my fave Stray Kittens for flopping in Korea 

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Mitsuki]

What's up with these sajaegi accusations against IVE? There's proof or... 

[katyberry]

3 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

NCT needs to be ban in all the faces of the earth, sorry for their stans here. 

 

 

Aespa and soon to be RIIZE can at least back up their sales with hits and quality 

 

If nct has to go, then so does riize

Edited October 6, 2023 by katyberry

[Queenyoncee]

17 minutes ago, dlwlrma said:

I agree with sheeps  tour and physicals sales are what matter 
I hope they can understand now why SM  push NCT more than any female act 

 
 

We shouldn’t underestimate endorsements ,especially solo CFs. Thats where idols earn the most money since they don’t need to divide the money between the members.

[Adama]

1 minute ago, Century said:

I'm a newjeans fan. They're up there but they haven't peaked yet and aren't even close to realizing their potential. I still believe their peak is going to make BTS and SNSD look indie. The only My I know of that don't live for newjeans are Eternium and Pluto and Pluto hardly counts as a My or a user.

Even if they hasn’t peaked yet, the marks they left are already bigger than anything Aespa did. 

[lgaga1fan]

6 minutes ago, dlwlrma said:

NCT Seoul and NCT Jeju Island are coming next year

Hopefully we will not see any posts complaining about the push while they lack hits.
this metric doesn't matter 

If the songs are as good as Perfume they can keep them coming we like them

[Odette Violet]

"NJ are close to reaching SNSD's and BP's impact11"

 

 

They're hot right now but let's not set up those poor girls. 

 

[Pluto6]

9 minutes ago, dlwlrma said:

NCT Seoul and NCT Jeju Island are coming next year

Hopefully we will not see any posts complaining about the push while they lack hits.
this metric doesn't matter 

NCT 127 is already NCT Soul though, since the number "127" is the longitude number of Soul

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Queenyoncee]

 

 

[katyberry]

I'm neutral on both groups but Riize could never 

 

[katyberry]

Look at dives inserting newjeans because they couldn't find anything to say about IVE

[Odette Violet]

Just now, katyberry said:

I'm neutral on both groups but Riize could never 

 

henny, they just debuted with only 3 song out 

 

 

 

[Adama]

 

Just now, katyberry said:

Look at dives inserting newjeans because they couldn't find anything to say about IVE

Nah! The difference it’s that we aren’t delusional like you. Everyone accepted that NJ are the leader of their generation except yall

[Odette Violet]

I mean NJ are currently hopping on the lane Aespa has been doing since like 2020

 

so I'm not sure what mark they are offering so far more than the group they are supposedly bigger with  

 

inb4 NJ Billboard and Spotify11!

 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Odette Violet

[Sheep]

13 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

If sales and touring matter the most (which is indeed true), then why does majority of the KTRL constantly drag my fave Stray Kittens for flopping in Korea 

Because Stays keep pitting their favs against groups that are more popular in the real world. The groups those comparisons are made over ALSO have huge sales and tours.

12 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

What's up with these sajaegi accusations against IVE? There's proof or... 

Their label is known for sajaegi and back when charts were more transparent their acts would have their peak hours from 2-5am with people in their 40s-50s. IVE is huge but if you went off their digitals/streams they'd be as big/bigger than NewJeans and aespa when other metrics don't come close. 

 

For example: there are b-tier groups with better tour attendance than IVE, their Japanese sales despite having 2 separate releases are barely over their peers with no japanese physicals out or even Japanese distribution for their Korean albums. There's never any hard proof with any fraud claims bc it's obviously illegal but in foreign markets were sajaegiship has less power, IVE's charting ability falls off a cliff. This is despite IVE having 2 of the defining global kpop hits of 4th gen and tons of global appeal(esp for the Japanese market) too.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Century

[rzal]

1 minute ago, Century said:

Because Stays keep pitting their favs against groups that are more popular in the real world. The groups those comparisons are made over ALSO have huge sales and tours.

In the real world Stray Kids' latest Korean song has over 40m more streams than Spicy despite being released a month later

[illia]

IU got shook for a sec when this dropped