fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Sheep]

1 minute ago, Adama said:

So IVE who have more bigger hits than Aespa will not have musical legacy but somehow Aespa will  ? 

So T-ARA who have more bigger hits than SNSD will not have a musical legacy but somehow SNSD will  ? -somebody on soompi in 2011 probably

[lgaga1fan]

Just now, Adama said:

So IVE who have more bigger hits than Aespa will not have musical legacy but somehow Aespa will  ? 

T-Ara had several bigger hits at points than SNSD/2NE1/WG and you don't see them mentioned here outside of a little petty stan war. Hits dont equal impact. Madonna is the biggest female artist of all time and hasn't had a massive hit worldwide in 30 years. Nice job trying it tho. 

[hallucinate]

2 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Not More NCT? SM never learns

ENOUGH

[Sheep]

1 minute ago, lgaga1fan said:

T-Ara had several bigger hits at points than SNSD/2NE1/WG and you don't see them mentioned here outside of a little petty stan war. Hits dont equal impact. Madonna is the biggest female artist of all time and hasn't had a massive hit worldwide in 30 years. Nice job trying it tho. 

NOT OUR SHARED BRAINCELL LDFKJGDHFLK

[Adama]

1 minute ago, Century said:

So T-ARA who have more bigger hits than SNSD will not have a musical legacy but somehow SNSD will  ? -somebody on soompi in 2011 probably

 

Just now, lgaga1fan said:

T-Ara had several bigger hits at points than SNSD/2NE1/WG and you don't see them mentioned here outside of a little petty stan war. Hits dont equal impact. Madonna is the biggest female artist of all time and hasn't had a massive hit worldwide in 30 years. Nice job trying it tho. 

Yall seriously really not comparing Aespa to SNSD ? 

[lily42]

13 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

Let's set the score once and for all:

 

Sales:

1. aespa
2. IVE
3. NewJeans

Circle total

 

1. NewJeans - 5.05M (3 albums)

2. Aespa - 4.78M (3 albums)

3. IVE - 4.8M (4 albums) 

 

hope this helps in some way 

[rzal]

Aespa already kinda forgotten and ignored and y'all are talking about future legacy ijbol 

[Sheep]

8 minutes ago, Adama said:

 

Yall seriously really not comparing Aespa to SNSD ? 

The point went right over your head. aespa has already had an enormous impact and influence and left the biggest mark on the culture out of their entire generation. Even their "flop" era dominated kpop discussion not just on here but everywhere around the world. Metaverse/ai groups are now a thing, alternate universes with their own lore are now a thing, JYP heard Next Level a single time and decided to make an entire group concept based on it. Everything they do is huge because they're LEADERS. They set the trends and dictate the culture.

 

SHINee were never the biggest chart toppers but ruled 2nd gen with an iron fist and now that the dust from that generation has settled they're winning the legacy game alongside Big Bang.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Century

[lgaga1fan]

6 minutes ago, Adama said:

 

Yall seriously really not comparing Aespa to SNSD ? 

JYP A&R's immediate reaction to Next Level's success made them rush out a girl group where the main concept was making songs that switch up halfway and it backfired horribly. Just because your perception of popularity relies on being entirely numerical doesn't mean that aespa haven't had an observable impact on the industry they work in and have other groups and companies chasing after the same success. 

Edited October 6, 2023 by lgaga1fan

[Zack]

29 minutes ago, Adama said:

It’s always the SM stan who always accuses groups who are performing better than their faves of « sajaegi » ! 

Please, not when 90% of the thread was lining up to call aespa "fraud" when they got 1 million pre-orders last year.

 

I should know, I had to multiquote it all when the sales did actually come true   

[dlwlrma]

I agree with sheeps  tour and physicals sales are what matter 
I hope they can understand now why SM  push NCT more than any female act 

 
 

[lgaga1fan]

The constant labeling of sheeps when I could really give less of a **** about Red Velvet and other SM groups touring prospects is so funny. Stanning one group apparently means I have to buy stock in the other groups like its a Costco warehouse. Apparently we can't have opinions on obvious market manipulation and underdevloped, unseasoned single releases unless we christen ourselves on the steps of SM Entertainment.

[Pluto6]

3 minutes ago, lily42 said:

Circle total

 

1. NewJeans - 5.05M (3 albums)

2. Aespa - 4.78M (3 albums)

3. IVE - 4.8M (4 albums) 

 

hope this helps in some way 

Thanks, I didn't look at total numbers, but more so if they were to release an album on the spot,  and who had the highest selling album this year etc.  if you get what I mean. 

 

aespa surpassed 2M sales with 1 album this year, but yeah I should've switched NewJeans and IVE. Let me edit my post

[Odette Violet]

1 minute ago, Zack said:

Please, not when 90% of the thread was lining up to call aespa "fraud" when they got 1 million pre-orders last year.

 

I should know, I had to multiquote it all when the sales did actually come true   

The moment I got back on lurking KTRL, that was the first post I immediately saw here 

 

 

The bookmarkings and multiquotes was an event. The way I choked

 

 

Maybe you should do it again for the kiis

 

 

 

[Sheep]

2 minutes ago, dlwlrma said:

I agree with sheeps  tour and physicals sales are what matter 
I hope they can understand now why SM  push NCT more than any female act 

 
 

 

You were so close to spilling but you forgot that even SM openly admits aespa is their main act now.

[Rhyme]

2 minutes ago, dlwlrma said:

I agree with sheeps  tour and physicals sales are what matter 
I hope they can understand now why SM  push NCT more than any female act 

 
 

It only took NCT over 30 trainees, several full albums, and 5 years of investments. A whole generation passed before they became profitable. 

 

[Sheep]

4 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

The constant labeling of sheeps when I could really give less of a **** about Red Velvet and other SM groups touring prospects is so funny. Stanning one group apparently means I have to buy stock in the other groups like its a Costco warehouse. Apparently we can't have opinions on obvious market manipulation and underdevloped, unseasoned single releases unless we christen ourselves on the steps of SM Entertainment.

I'm still dragging your ass to the red velvet tour though so ntfm

[hallucinate]

jini debut single out this wednesday

don’t forget to tune in ktrl

[dlwlrma]

2 minutes ago, Century said:

 

You were so close to spilling but you forgot that even SM openly admits aespa is their main act now.

and SM will make 10 comebacks of NCT per year meanwhile sheeps here will cry screaming they hate Red Velvet or Aespa 

1 minute ago, Rhyme said:

It only took NCT over 30 trainees, several full albums, and 5 years of investments. A whole generation passed before they became profitable. 

 

And worked 
profitable kings 

 

[jqnetto]

Just now, hallucinate said:

jini debut single out this wednesday

don’t forget to tune in ktrl

the way you already spent the opportunity to have her name in the thread title tho

 

[Sheep]

1 minute ago, dlwlrma said:

and SM will make 10 comebacks of NCT per year meanwhile sheeps here will cry screaming they hate Red Velvet or Aespa 

We had a VERY messy drought during SM's messy breakup era but SM had to keep funding these NCT comebacks somehow so now we get aespa content so fast it's hard to keep up with.

[dlwlrma]

NCT Seoul and NCT Jeju Island are coming next year

Hopefully we will not see any posts complaining about the push while they lack hits.
this metric doesn't matter 

[Adama]

19 minutes ago, Century said:

The point went right over your head. aespa has already had an enormous impact and influence and left the biggest mark on the culture out of their entire generation. Even their "flop" era dominated kpop discussion not just on here but everywhere around the world. Everything they do is huge because they're LEADERS.

Seems like you’re the only fanbase who still don’t want to accept that Newjeans is the leader of their generation, already left the biggest mark not only in their generation but accross all the generations and are the closet to SNSD and BP cultural impact

 

17 minutes ago, Zack said:

Please, not when 90% of the thread was lining up to call aespa "fraud" when they got 1 million pre-orders last year.

 

I should know, I had to multiquote it all when the sales did actually come true   

And it’s still doesn’t change the fact that the SM Stan are the one who always brought sajaegi against IVE .

 

17 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

JYP A&R's immediate reaction to Next Level's success made them rush out a girl group where the main concept was making songs that switch up halfway and it backfired horribly. Just because your perception of popularity relies on being entirely numerical doesn't mean that aespa haven't had an observable impact on the industry they work in and have other groups and companies chasing after the same success. 

First I never said that they didn’t have impact. But I would never compare aespa impact to SNDS be serious.

 

No one will take you seriously when you confidently say that they will have a bigger music legacy than IVE, when no one can predict the future and especially when IVE for now have plenty of popular songs and 2 popular idols! 
 

Also, if you want to use Nmixx you can, but this same group like most of the whole Kpop is now following the same sound, strategy and aesthetic of the new popular group . It lasted 2 eras. Congratulations I guess, but everyone moved on, perhaps it’s time for you to do the same 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Adama

[illia]

3 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

jini debut single out this wednesday

don’t forget to tune in ktrl

That Taylor Swift-esque song she previewed is stuck in my head

 

[hallucinate]

3 minutes ago, jqnetto said:

the way you already spent the opportunity to have her name in the thread title tho

 

i got the schedule mixed up and thought there was a pre-release single coming nnnn