fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[xrosup]

23 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

everyone forgetting about I.N

The way i forgot about him too

 

 

 

[Odette Violet]

20 minutes ago, Century said:

 

They planned this ***** in a few months while simultaneously filming a TV show at every meeting and still shat on all your oppas.  

I absolutely adore FOREVE1 however I just hope they're all going to serve us different for GG8. Celebratory songs should only be an album track this time 

[ANTIclimatic]

54 minutes ago, Zack said:

Obviously not totally related to what you were discussing, but although 7 years is the maximum length allowed to be written in an entertainment contract, there are loopholes. 

 

SM openly boasted a couple months ago, that it had gotten approval from Korea's trade commission which allows them to make NCT's contracts longer than 10 years, due to extension agreements for overseas promotions, military service etc. 

 

They also did something similar with SNSD, f(x), EXO, Red Velvet and possibly aespa too. Most other companies seem to stick within 7 years though, SM just wants to be extra shady I guess! 

 

 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

59 minutes ago, Zack said:

SM openly boasted a couple months ago, that it had gotten approval from Korea's trade commission which allows them to make NCT's contracts longer than 10 years, due to extension agreements for overseas promotions, military service etc. 

Mark is gonna have to go into hiding in Canada to get away from those vultures isnt he

 

[Gorjesspazze9]

30 minutes ago, Century said:

 

They planned this ***** in a few months while simultaneously filming a TV show at every meeting and still shat on all your oppas.  

And Tiffany & Yoona did this. SM didn’t do ****. Imagine if SM actually tried. 

[Joseline]

Basically he had to ask people around with bear mask “do you want to see a new singer for 500 won” I can’t blame people to think it’s a scam for cult entry tbh And look at how much he get at the end of the day 

 

 

[Odette Violet]

Tiffany did actually said that it took them 5 years to planned their 15th Anniversary and they all fought for FOREVER1 to be an album bc SM's misygonistic ass would've had given them as a single 

[BellKat]

55 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Wait how much have Lizards been spamming Money streams? I checked months ago and it was at like 770M streams. How is it already at 1B  

Unfiltered: 1 Billion

Filtered : 454M

 

Biggest joke in recent memory 

[Sheep]

3 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

Tiffany did actually said that it took them 5 years to planned their 15th Anniversary and they all fought for FOREVER1 to be an album bc SM's misygonistic ass would've had given them as a single 

It was said in Sosi tamtam that they wanted to do a cb earlier too but the pandemic killed those plans. I sincerely believe they wanted to remain more active as a group than they did after HN but they had circumstantial issues. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Century

[Odette Violet]

38 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

And Tiffany & Yoona did this. SM didn’t do ****. Imagine if SM actually tried. 

They would for their sausages 

 

 

The only contribution they prolly provided were the recording and dance studios. Other than that,  everything was done by the Hags 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Odette Violet

[ANTIclimatic]

57 minutes ago, New Edition said:

Neither Jungkook, Jimin or Lisa are relevant in America as soloists except to Kpoopers 

No shade but this is absolutely true. Take away all the streaming farms and bulk buying and the general gp have no idea who any of these people are. If I wasn't a kpopper and I saw jungcook seven on the chart I would've been like who? This is because no general pop culture spaces I follow nor any of my none army friends talk about or even know that song. Kpop is still a niche in the U.S at least and the fact that some of these albums are not only able to chart but reach the top 10 on billboard proves the buying power of a very small subset of the population. Even non country fans know who Morgan Wallen and Jason Aldean are.

 

[Sheep]

The way SNSD are 16 years in but the members are still the top female idols and Sone dominate kpop discussion all around the world. The power and longevity are tew much. 

[Gaia]

25 minutes ago, BellKat said:

Unfiltered: 1 Billion

Filtered : 454M

 

Biggest joke in recent memory 

Almost 600M filtered streams for a recently released track?
 

This is why it’s hard to take any BTS or BP achievement seriously. I wish their fanbases cared more than about manipulating charts. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Gaia

[ItsJustMe.]

it's too good

 

 

[armink]

my poor unknown fave, he must be devastated that grandma Betsy in Wyoming doesn't know who he is 

 

 

[Lost In Paradise]

ITZY's dedication to starting a song with a perfectly fine verse/prechorus and then letting Yeji scream all over the chorus to ruin the song...

 

it needs to stop

[Zack]

1 hour ago, Century said:

We all know where this baseless conspiracy theory came from and it's a novel for teenage girls. There's enough REAL issues with that evil corporation, you don't need to regurgitate Jessica Jung's fantasies to find something to criticize. The current mass exodus from SM disproves this narrative that people are forced to stay with them forever. All 8 SNSD members continuing to work with SM while half of them aren't under contract and actively working in the industry for another company also is a huge hole in this conspiracy theory.

 

It's time to put the "slave contract" narrative to bed for good. The ex-dbsk members who originated it were exposed to not all be great/honest people. SM is extremely controlling for the 7 year contract term like every other agency, or like any other main US record label is for the term of an x album contract.

Not you wasting time out of your day to type this garbage. 

 

The slave contract exists, it's undeniable that they force their idols to stay beyond 7 years. It was even confirmed in court when Luhan, Tao and Kris tried to sue and get out. Not to mention, f(x), who had to wait to 2019 to leave, when we all know some of them wanted to leave sooner (see Krystal and Amber...and Victoria). 

 

Also my comments were not based on "fiction" but reported statements from SM in the media. 

 

https://v.daum.net/v/20230717091220601

[Witnessed ET]

7 minutes ago, armink said:

my poor unknown fave, he must be devastated that grandma Betsy in Wyoming doesn't know who he is 

 

 

I know it’s ridiculous to constantly bring up the “BTS and BP are not relevant with the American gp” thing when it comes to their streams and sales in the country, but at the end of the day, it’s still a valid discussion in the sense that their numbers are sky high but their mainstream familiarity is still not there yet. 

[moxcy]

1 hour ago, Century said:

 

They planned this ***** in a few months while simultaneously filming a TV show at every meeting and still shat on all your oppas.  

one of, if not my favorite song of 2022. pure nostalgic ear candy 

[kendoll2001]

 

[lgaga1fan]

7 years doesnt feel that long when some of these groups barely release anything tbh...

[armink]

23 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

I know it’s ridiculous to constantly bring up the “BTS and BP are not relevant with the American gp” thing when it comes to their streams and sales in the country, but at the end of the day, it’s still a valid discussion in the sense that their numbers are sky high but their mainstream familiarity is still not there yet. 

I guess it is a valid discussion but it's been circlejerked into oblivion at this point, kinda tired of it tbh when everyone just argues over their anecdotes. Globally, BTS members are more known than 90% of celebrities outside of true A/S listers. And they (along with BP members) remain lightyears ahead of other kpop idols in that regard 

 

 

7 minutes ago, kendoll2001 said:

 

perfect timing thank you king 

[Sheep]

58 minutes ago, Zack said:

Not you wasting time out of your day to type this garbage. 

 

The slave contract exists, it's undeniable that they force their idols to stay beyond 7 years. It was even confirmed in court when Luhan, Tao and Kris tried to sue and get out. Not to mention, f(x), who had to wait to 2019 to leave, when we all know some of them wanted to leave sooner (see Krystal and Amber...and Victoria). 

 

Also my comments were not based on "fiction" but reported statements from SM in the media. 

 

https://v.daum.net/v/20230717091220601

Not you thinking I'm going to let it slide that you called my post garbage. If you want to be an ass then lets go there.

 

You're a bitter ex-stan who interrupted a conversation about BTS contract renewals to repost your verifiably false contract conspiracy theory whose sole source is a YA fiction novel written by a disgruntled former employee. The real waste here is you waiting every day for an opportunity to spew bullshite about SM because of a victim complex where you think the boogeyman has sabotaged your mediocre fav who in reality just makes bad business/career choices at every turn and has sunk far, far below her peak popularity(and moral standards) while the rest of the group has more or less retained theirs. International retail presence and a global book deal with S&S could not help her, the issue really isn't SM, it's her own complete lack of noteworthiness outside of as a supporting member of something bigger. How dare you mock me for "wasting time out of my day" when you're letting yourself turn into the weaboo version of Qanon and looking for any excuse to spread misinformation. Go back to twitter and try to hide news of Jessica's crumbling fashion business, word is starting to get out outside of OT8 twitter and you might be able to gaslight better on a website where there isn't a 10 year log of your hypocrisy and delusions.

 

Now that that's out of the way let me make some things clear for the other people reading this thread(because I'm sure you already know the truth and were lying intentionally).

• Zack said SM was boasting about "longer than 10 year contracts". This is false, the contract term is 10 years.
  • This is because of outside activity(ie: fleeing to china and going solo) and military service, this length is to ensure that they are active for a whole 7 years in Korea.
  • The same court that made 7 years the maximum contract length has held up this "10 year" contract term
    • Tao's lawsuit was specifically about the "misleading" contract length, he unequivocally lost and was under contract with SM until last year.
• 10 years is still at or below the average contract term length for a mainstream recording artist
  • In the west these contracts are signed for x number of albums.
    • Most often 5 albums, and with the 2-3 year album cycle the average contract is 10-15 years.
• There is no proof of ANY female group debuted after the 7 year contract term was enforced being forced to renew.
  • f(x) was publicly talking about their future plans as a group as reports were circulating about their contract renewals in 2016 and they even reunited at SMtown in 2019 by choice, far from "slavery".
  • Red Velvet publicly confirmed contract renewals in 2021.
  • aespa hasn't said a damn word because they're not even 3 years in.
  • NONE of the SNSD members who have left SM ever corroborated this bizarre conspiracy theory.
• Again SM is an EVIL company and there are plenty of things to discuss, this just isn't one of them.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Century

[Mitsuki]

3 hours ago, xrosup said:

Lee Know, Hyunjin and Seungmin were involved in a minor car accident

 

 

 

I'm wishing the kings a speed recovery. Traffic accidents are so scary, It's a relief nothing very serious happened and they can go home to rest. 

[Mitsuki]

3RACHA has their own discography. It's easier to put them to perform on the Festival than adjusting the ot8 performances to only 5 members in 2 days. 

At least Felix and I.N can also rest these days. Stray Kids schedules are almost inhumane.