fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[CandyCoatedClouds]

1 hour ago, JonginBey said:

Oh okay. So you just naturally have **** taste.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree I see 

50 minutes ago, Zack said:

The way SM snatched these two by sliding into their Instagram DMs is kinda wild (and lucky!) 

 

Much better than stories past of talent scouts waiting outside of schools and hounding children on the street to get them to tryouts.

[Mitsuki]

3 minutes ago, Century said:

2014 had TVX2 sell almost 1m albums and do 600k in tour attendance + JYJ was actually huge both as a group and as soloists in the early 10s.  SNSD had yet to either release their best selling album or embark on their biggest tour. Big Bang's obvious peak was MADE which was a 2015-6/7 era. Super Junior was in their flop military era but would become huge again the following year(unfortunately). 2NE1 and T-ara were the only real notable declines but they were both still huge at the time and 2NE1 had one of the biggest tours ever for a GG at the time in 2014.

BIGBANG wasn't even on my mind, cause I know MADE was their peak. Actually, neither 2NE1 was too, even If you consider. From my perception, Crush seem to be a big era and they were forced to a hiatus due to a sequence of misfortune circustances, not because they were slowing down. 

 

But a lot of others (including some of  I consider as representative and you didn't mention) were indeed slowing down. 

[Aniston's Boobs]

 

[Sheep]

7 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

BIGBANG wasn't even on my mind, cause I know MADE was their peak. Actually, neither 2NE1 was too, even If you consider. From my perception, Crush seem to be a big era and they were forced to a hiatus due to a sequence of misfortune circustances, not because they were slowing down. 

 

But a lot of others (including some of  I consider as representative and you didn't mention) were indeed slowing down. 

Point still remains that before it was a marketing buzzword, generations were made up by fans specifically to separate groups who had different opportunities and had a totally different scope for their career. ATP its hard to contest a billion dollar company when they tell you what a generation is because they're the ones actually manufacturing the groups but nobody is going to see 4th and (the currently existing)5th gen groups as different the same way they see 3rd and 4th gen groups as different, barring some huge shift. It seems made up to keep certain groups from competing from 4th gen heavyweights.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Century

[Sorecer]

17 minutes ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

We'll just have to agree to disagree I see 

Much better than stories past of talent scouts waiting outside of schools and hounding children on the street to get them to tryouts.

The way Eunseok can’t relate to this because that’s exactly how he was casted 

[Mitsuki]

Just now, Century said:

Point still remains that before it was a marketing buzzword, generations were made up by fans specifically to separate groups who had different opportunities and had a totally different scope for their career. ATP its hard to contest a billion dollar company when they tell you what a generation is because they're the ones actually manufacturing the groups but nobody is going to see 4th and (the currently existing)5th gen groups as different the same way they see 3rd and 4th gen groups as different, barring some huge shift.

But It's basically what I said. I just mentioned how I see that used to define a shift in a generation from 1st to 2nd/2nd to 3rd and how It has changed from 3rd to 4th/4th to 5th, because the media adopted such terms and are inorganically starting new generations (4th and 5th), when the previous ones were so smooth and there were reasons behind it (we might disagree on the reasons, but they were there). 

 

The thing is that despite feeling the shift in generation has been forced on our throats, I 'understand' why the media is doing this. Cause It's harder for groups to decline even when they peak in Korea (or have never been famous there), because of the globalization of K-pop. So they have a lot of other markets to rely on to a bigger extent. 

[Odette Violet]

Koreans are eating it up. SM needs to hurry up and give the song another promo or something 

 

 

[Sheep]

1 minute ago, Mitsuki said:

But It's basically what I said. I just mentioned how I see that used to define a shift in a generation from 1st to 2nd/2nd to 3rd and how It has changed from 3rd to 4th/4th to 5th, because the media adopted such terms and are inorganically starting new generations (4th and 5th), when the previous ones were so smooth and there were reasons behind it (we might disagree on the reasons, but they were there). 

 

The thing is that despite feeling the shift in generation has been forced on our throats, I 'understand' why the media is doing this. Cause It's harder for groups to decline even when they peak in Korea (or have never been famous there), because of the globalization of K-pop. So they have a lot of other markets to rely on to a bigger extent. 

The thing I find most weird about the whole thing is that if these "5th generation" groups cannot compete with 4th gen groups who seemingly have not peaked yet and are still growing with every CB across the board, they similarly will be left in the dust by the real 5th gen representatives because every generation is bigger than the last. 

[Mitsuki]

9 minutes ago, Century said:

The thing I find most weird about the whole thing is that if these "5th generation" groups cannot compete with 4th gen groups who seemingly have not peaked yet and are still growing with every CB across the board, they similarly will be left in the dust by the real 5th gen representatives because every generation is bigger than the last. 

I think there will have a few exceptions, but for the most part, It's very likely and I blame the oversaturation of the industry. 

 

Idols don't seem as valued as they used to be for fans during 2nd gen or even 3rd gen. There are so many newer and freshier groups that people keep switching the attention from one to another. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Mitsuki

[Selenasworld]

50 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

Gag

[youresotoxic]

 

[Odette Violet]

6 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

I hope Aespa new album is a mix of My World and Kwangya style. Maybe like some type of incursion concept where it’s half futuristic Cvnt Baddies and half Y2K style Pop princess.
Better Things was just the Prelude

We love RANGE and CONCEPT 

 

 

Don't forget this Baddies too ( They genuinely need new skins )

 

 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Odette Violet

[Odette Violet]

An appreciation to Soshi's formations over the years. 

 

1. M

 

 

2.  Diamond

 

 

3. Arrow

 

 

4. Heart

 

 

5. Centipede

 

 

 

When GGs were not so heavy in choreo or formations back in a day. The Hags came out of the gate swinging  

 

 

Flash forward in their 30's and they're still slayin' the formation department and outdances little girls  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Selenasworld]

Chuu, Yuqui and Tsuki to debut new variety show

 

 

[New Edition]

What year/gen will Kpop decline and become a flop internationally?

[Xalric]

7 hours ago, playboi said:

I don’t really buy empowerment anthems from kpop idols, it’s already pretty hypocritical when western acts do it but when it’s korea it’s straight up comedic 

 

This is why I hope Newjeans stick to love/advertisement songs

Hwasa is about that life.

 

Remember that one sentence when there was a whole petition to get her out of Mamamoo because of her body. 

 

"If I don't fit the beauty standards, I'll sets my own standards"

 

While she was embraced worldIde in Korea she was hated for a long time until she was loved. And even then people said she didn't fit the beauty standards of an idol.

 

7 hours ago, BlackAura said:

As a senior YG rat, here is my prediction of how things will work.... 

BM will debut with one song in October and will go perform for 2 weeks on Inkigayo and Music Core. After that they will announce how they are working on their debut album which will be coming very soon... Then 3-4 months silence and will release a mini (4 songs) in Q1 of 2024 and then a single for the summer and that's it folks.

 

Even yourself don't believe that. 

 

1 song coming Octobre-november. Then announcement of preparing a full album in Q1 2024 but only a single album being released in summer 2024, because delay and stuff and it will be released after trucks being sent to YG. A promise for this album before the end of 2024 but won't see them until 2025. And off course they will have some sort of concert in 2024 and will be the laughing stock of all kpop fans because they'd have like 5 songs and a bunch of covers.

[elevate]

3 hours ago, kendoll2001 said:

Between ZB1 Jiwoong and RIIZE Wonbin, who’s taking the 5th Gen Main Visual title and clearing? 

Put them both in a BL asap please

 

[Odette Violet]

 

 

Umm no. Certainly not in KTRL, I was still lurking this site but  most of the geys here were dragging Adspa and praising Slayc

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Odette Violet]

 

 

 

Where are her Vouge, Elle, Bazaar, W, Daze etc. solo cover you **** SM? 

 

 

 

[Asscatchem]

7 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

Umm no. Certainly not in KTRL, I was still lurking this site but  most of the geys here were dragging Adspa and praising Slayc

 

 

 

 

 

 

stayc undoubtedly has the better discography i fear...

but i cant name a single member

[Odette Violet]

 

 

 

We better see Soshi and Aespa booking this and all this japanese stadiums next time cuz there is no other explanation other than deep misogyny why the Biggest Girl Group of 2nd Gen whose touring and grossing power is unmatched but were stuck doing 10K arenas at their prime. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Odette Violet

[CandyCoatedClouds]

2 hours ago, Sorecer said:

The way Eunseok can’t relate to this because that’s exactly how he was casted 

It must be so off-putting to see these grown adults approach and hound these children into trying out. I just know half of them think it's probably a scam.

[Xalric]

58 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

Umm no. Certainly not in KTRL, I was still lurking this site but  most of the geys here were dragging Adspa and praising Slayc

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the GG that did the best musically, ended up disbanded.

 

The Brazilian queens 

 

 

The way they had their whole fanbase speaking Portuguese. 

 

 

 

 

I will never forget Ayamy, they geve her a 20 seconds verse, she wrote and served c*nt in her rap. 

 

Like she had the best part of that song.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Xalric

[kendoll2001]

1 hour ago, New Edition said:

What year/gen will Kpop decline and become a flop internationally?

2028/6th Gen, after all ocean life is dead and ai has fully taken over

 

[JonginBey]

1 hour ago, elevate said:

Put them both in a BL asap please

 

 

Jiwoong and his BL partner already have a nice following. No replacements allowed.