Zuko Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ryan said: But he didn't say it tho? he didn't, he only mouthed the next word "tires" at worst the clip is ambigious & then it's still a reach. blinks have been trying to make this an issue from the start this is freaking bts.. big outlets write about them if they sneeze, you don't think they would have RAN with it already? 1
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted August 30, 2023 Author ATRL Administrator Posted August 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, moxcy said: didnt he though? every clip I've seen shows him saying it, you dont need to move your mouth to say the n word, peep his tongue 13 minutes ago, Mel. said: He mouthed it, he could’ve very well said it too, but it’s hard to tell if he audibly said it because the music was so loud, but he definitely mouthed it and even if he didn’t audibly say it y’all dragged Giselle for mouthing the N so what’s the difference? Why is he getting a pass? im not here for the selective outrage and I’m gonna call it out when I see it. Period. Don’t drag certain people, but stay silent for others. I’m not here for it or the performative mess that goes on in here It doesn’t look like he said it to me. More like he skipped the word and still rocked to the beat. I understand the concerns about the selective outrage but at the same time, whether or not V said or mouthed the word doesn’t change that others did. 2
Dialamba Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 The same user who was coming for taeyeon and Giselle btw (and a Chris brown supporter but if the shoes fit)
Brooklyn Baby Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 I don't even care for Giselle like that but I better see the same energy directed towards V in this thread and everywhere else
TheCal Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, moxcy said: suddenly everyones above it all when its a cute boy mouthing it supposedly mouthing it that's the difference between him and that girl who said it loud and clear 3
rzal Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mel. said: He mouthed it, he could’ve very well said it too, but it’s hard to tell if he audibly said it because the music was so loud, but he definitely mouthed it and even if he didn’t audibly say it y’all dragged Giselle for mouthing the N so what’s the difference? Why is he getting a pass? im not here for the selective outrage and I’m gonna call it out when I see it. Period. Don’t drag certain people, but stay silent for others. I’m not here for it or the performative mess that goes on in here looks like according to kpop fans men can say it 22 minutes ago, levi_valvi said: Not them trying to Lucas him nnnnn I fear we might need to organize a counter attack TO STAND UP FOR JUSTICE! TO STAND UP FOR KPOP! DATING IS NOT A LEGITIMATE SCANDAL! SEUNGHAN IS NOT LUCAS! WE LOVE SEUNGHAN! speaking of lucas. notice how this dating scandal has clear selfies with the girl but with lucas it was pictures of him sleeping on his couch. that stupid scandal was so fake
rzal Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 And yes it's unclear if V actually mouthed it but if it was Jennie or Lisa nobody would be giving them the benefit of the doubt.
WeFoundWill Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Taeyong said: I don't even care for Giselle like that but I better see the same energy directed towards V in this thread and everywhere else Im at a loss for words at this point…why do people feel the need to mouth it or say it just to feel "cool" my god 1
moxcy Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TheCal said: supposedly mouthing it that's the difference between him and that girl who said it loud and clear supposedly he did he should get the same treatment female idols do from this thread
illia Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lost In Paradise said: overproduced artists just don't work in the US anymore. I won't be surprised if Dream Academy flops into oblivion kinda feels like they're gonna debut the Ava Max of girl groups. cute bops but no flavor. we'll see! Ava Max has hits though! She IS flavorless I agree, but if that Dream group manages to get at least one song with 1.4B streams on Spotify, that would be an amazing achievement already.
Zuko Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, moxcy said: suddenly everyones above it all when its a cute boy mouthing it no one is above it but you guys need to stop weaponizing stuff like this one said the word with even an emphasis on it & with one it's not even clear if he mouthed it or not (he didn't) you can dislike bts & they have their mistakes, but stop comparing situations that arent the same or forcing things that aren't true 3
BigBangStan Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lost In Paradise said: overproduced artists just don't work in the US anymore. I won't be surprised if Dream Academy flops into oblivion kinda feels like they're gonna debut the Ava Max of girl groups. cute bops but no flavor. we'll see! Girls groups have been flopping for two decades. Only Fifth Harmony could get like two cute hits, and they flopped afterward. It will be a miracle if DA succeeds.
moxcy Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, rzal said: And yes it's unclear if V actually mouthed it but if it was Jennie or Lisa nobody would be giving them the benefit of the doubt. at all and you know exactly who the users on here that would be on their ass, the selective rage is... something else to say the least
Sheep Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rzal said: And yes it's unclear if V actually mouthed it but if it was Jennie or Lisa nobody would be giving them the benefit of the doubt. As if we all don't give black piss an enormous dose of benefit of the doubt with their especially rampant appropriation of black culture and regular reliance on black talent but giving apparently 0 back to black causes or platforming black artists. Other fandoms don't operate the way you do. Get it through your heads. Edited August 30, 2023 by Century 1 1
WeFoundWill Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 women are held accountable way more than men in the entertainment industry (for obvious reasons) and it needs to be discussed but not in the sense of "but if a woman did it" but rather that both need to be held accountable equally. Some things are just not okay 1
moxcy Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zuko said: no one is above it but you guys need to stop weaponizing stuff like this one said the word with even an emphasis on it & with one it's not even clear if he mouthed it or not (he didn't) you can dislike bts & they have their mistakes, but stop comparing situations that arent the same or forcing things that aren't true im not trying to weaponize anything im just pointing out the biases people show between female and male idols
WeFoundWill Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Century said: As if we all don't give black piss an enormous dose of benefit of the doubt with their especially rampant appropriation of black culture and regular reliance on black talent but giving apparently 0 back to black causes or platforming black artists. Other fandoms don't operate the way you do. Get it through your heads. how does BP appropriate black culture any more than 95% of the kpop industry. BP also platforms black artist at every concert they ever held. and that doesn’t take away from the fact that BP didnt activity show support during the BLM movement in 2020 Edited August 30, 2023 by WeFoundWill
Zuko Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, moxcy said: im not trying to weaponize anything im just pointing out the biases people show between female and male idols bts are the wrong male idols to proof your point don't act like they aren't the most dragged act in this thread WHEN they **** up (& the 2 situations you're comparing aren't the same, no matter how much you force it), you can be sure they are treated the same, if not worse, than most female acts here 2
moxcy Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Century said: As if we all don't give black piss an enormous dose of benefit of the doubt with their especially rampant appropriation of black culture and regular reliance on black talent but giving apparently 0 back to black causes or platforming black artists. Other fandoms don't operate the way you do. Get it through your heads. you can make your point without resorting to disgusting and vile nicknames. "other fandoms don't operate the way you do", yes you do. but only when it comes to BP or a GG you don't like. I've seen you and other users do the most about the most little things. plus it would take one quick little google search to drag everyone in your sig for culture appropriation so lets not go there
BTS Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 The same BTS who donated $1M to the BLM movement? Who spoke against racism at the UN? Who spent their debut year at the West Coast learning about the origins of hiphop, the group that constantly credits black artists as their inspiration. Why on earth would V switch overnight and start saying the Nword on a public livestream? Use your common sense people. His mouth was simply open. 1 1
moxcy Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, BTS said: The same BTS who donated $1M to the BLM movement? Who spoke against racism at the UN? Who spent their debut year at the West Coast learning about the origins of hiphop, the group that constantly credits black artists as their inspiration. Why on earth would V switch overnight and start saying the Nword on a public livestream? Use your common sense people. His mouth was simply open. people can do good things and still **** up. his mouth should've been closed
WeFoundWill Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, BTS said: The same BTS who donated $1M to the BLM movement? Who spoke against racism at the UN? Who spent their debut year at the West Coast learning about the origins of hiphop, the group that constantly credits black artists as their inspiration. Why on earth would V switch overnight and start saying the Nword on a public livestream? Use your common sense people. His mouth was simply open. is all I have to say 1
BTS Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, moxcy said: people can do good things and still **** up. his mouth should've been closed Well you’re not wrong there We should send out a protest truck 1
Sheep Posted August 30, 2023 Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WeFoundWill said: how does BP appropriate black culture any more than 95% of the kpop industry. BP also platforms black artist at every concert they ever held. and that doesn’t take away from the fact that BP didnt activity show support during the BLM movement in 2020 I've never seen SNSD or aespa in 40 inch braids or putting on a black coded accent in their rap verses. But the point wasn't to say that BP are bad people, it was to say that we aren't dragging them over it. If relying on the talents of black instrumentalists and dancers/choreographers is the same as giving them a platform then I guess every kpop group that tours is woke now, including the ones y'all want to be outraged about. 10 minutes ago, moxcy said: you can make your point without resorting to disgusting and vile nicknames. Until there's an official notice that the nickname rule is going to start being enforced in KTRL or Blinks stop acting unhinged with their attempts to bring down literally every other idol/group that's successful, I'll call them anything I please as long as it isn't slurs. 10 minutes ago, moxcy said: I've seen you and other users do the most about the most little things. I keep my hardline stances pretty consistent regardless of if it's an act I like or not, see me defending BTS despite having a total of like 20 streams across their entire discography ever. I'd be the one skulldragging Armys and Mys if that was a video of lazy. 10 minutes ago, moxcy said: plus it would take one quick little google search to drag everyone in your sig for culture appropriation so lets not go there Thank you for proving my point that this is how Blinks operate. Edited August 30, 2023 by Century 1 1
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