ItsJustMe. Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 Just now, SandyJeans said: the rest of the Loona girlies minus Yves are gonna be Lussemble now? Lussemble sounds like my grandma trying to pronounce le sserafim 2
illia Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, Sonny said: BLACKPINK performed Really instead of Tally in Vietnam, like I love Really but VBlinks lost hard. Quality won
OrgVisual Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, Dialamba said: It’s giving when someone said twice sold their tickets for 3$. Let it go. Their 2 sold out dates will welcome 67,000 fans The Blinks were giggling for pages over an alleged $3 Twice ticket from a Twitter screencap. But i'm supposed to be lying when all major news in Vietnam are reporting about it Ms Wet Jisoo initially said BP tickets in Vietnam were sold out in 10 minutes (which is simply not true) and they had the demand for even more dates, which I debunked by stating the fact that scalpers were struggling to sell their tickets. Did I say "BP had zero demand' or "BP is irrelevant" in Vietnam? No I just debunked Ms Jisoo's incorrect statement. And big part of the problem came from the fact that Vietnam is not a lucrative touring market and they are charging extortional prices
spicyaegha Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 This same sm sheep was gagging over adspa fraud sales the other day… smile and wave y’all
xrosup Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mitsuki said: I wonder If more dates will be added to Stray Kids' Dome Tour 2.5M applications and selling out in less than 5 minutes is crazy The details being NMIXX announced as the opening act of the tour
Green Tea Is Green Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, CrisPop said: oh she's coming, I never doubted mother
Sheep Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pikachu said: ok miss winter I've been cured of my homosexuality inshallah 2
Sorecer Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 He’s so stiff but I’ll let it pass cuz he’s so hot 3
Pikachu Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Harrier said: Excited for u!! I tried to get tickets and I failed, but I think its for the best bc a trip to SG would have cost far too much I will go and see her in Korea... one day Or at least one of my faves. I cant believe ive been a Kpop stan for 10 years and never seen a Kpop concert where do you live sis? taeyeon should really do a real world tour, she def has the demand. i was skeptical she was gonna sell out since there was no queue when i entered the site, but after i checked out my tickets everything was greyed out already, i was shook K-Pop concerts are so expensive these days, the SG concert is at least 50SGD more expensive than the one that was cancelled in 2020, and almost the entire arena is under CAT 1 I'm also going for TWICE so I'm broke 2
armink Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 20 hours ago, smates said: "I think boy group fans are misogynistic (which is true some of the time) and I hate them and their faves because of it. However, if you're a female who likes boy groups, it's quite alright for me -a man mostly in this thread- to call you a horny stupid teenager who knows nothing about art. You should go and suck your oppa's **** instead." This is what most of y'all sound like. As a matter of fact, the last sentence was actually written by a member yesterday. the lone downvote
Adama Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, BellKat said: Here you purposely missed the argument to please the rest of your fandom, they really needed validation to the "Blackpink are the messiah who has not been discovered by the GP", don't they? Let's talk about revisionism again:. Most of those Mic Drops performances, the SNL performances happened between 2018-2019. Why are you bunching them up together, like, that's peak revisionism. We can check the dates? They did not help Fake Love DEBUT Fake Love had ALREADY debuted at #10, which is the point here. At that point in time, BTS did NOT have more promo accumulated than Blackpink by 2022. Blackpink in 2022, when they released PV and the other song, they already got all those activities: Corden, Fallon, VMAs performances, multiple Western Awards show wins, Coachella, Dua collab, Gaga collab, Selena collab, radio tours, radio spins, multiple TTH #1 and cover. I repeat, Blackpink had more promo than, specifically, February 2018 BTS but they barely got Top20 BB Hot100. At no moment was I talking about Dynamite or Butter, nor I am expecting them to pull those numbers. I don't need to because lower standards are still unachievable for them. I already did, it got TTH #1, Western artist full promo, Regular radio spins. Non of those were given to Fake Love... Also history revisionism again, Website sales DID NOT exist for 2018 BTS. They charted with iTunes alone which are not banned for Blackpink either, they can take advantage of it just like everyone else. I repeat, I am not asking Blackpink to have a Dynamite/Butter so these "website sale" allegations can not come into play. If your argument is that more people bought Fake Love in 2018 than PV in 2022... If you say 2018 US ARMY are a bigger fandom than 2022 US Blinks, then you are also shooting yourself in the foot, are you saying that Blackpink have gotten massive promo for years and people are still not turning into their fans? We don't need to pretend they do because noone said that, noone was comparing 2023 BP to 2023 BTS. The argument is why they are still not getting Fake Love debut numbers? (Let’s not even talk about Boy with Love debut numbers which also happened when BTS still have simmilar levels of push than 2022 BP) Also, let's pretend for a second that February 2018 BTS had accumulated equal promo than September 2022 Blackpink.... Here is the crutch of the argument: Blink claim that the GP would love Blackpink if they get enough exposure. So, that alleged Pre-Fake-love level of promo should have pushed them way higher than it did to BTS, its enough promo to do something, no? But it DID NOT happen That's the thing, Blackpink does not have the GP appeal Blinks claim they do. Blinks keep inflating BP popularity when they clearly display the same appeal than other kpop groups. Blinks can not keep them in that pedestal and pretend other groups have 'less appeal' anymore. It's been DEBUNKED. So YOU can say in the same essay that BP got a bigger promo than 2018 BTS but I can’t say that if we use either 2017 or 2018, BTS got as much promotions and even more than BP in 2022 ? How it’s me doing revisionism?? they still can't grab as much Western interest: Bc BTS did despite all the promotions they got? Do you want us to check how they got all these #1? Do you want us to check where the western interest was when Butter blocked Industry baby? Or do we have to brings the bad callouts score of dynamite and butter? The key to BTS success in the US is their fandom power, nothing else let’s be real now! Their selling power was able to get bigger and bigger bc they promoted a lot and attracted fans! And props to them! And if you wasn’t such an hater you would have understand my pov. BTS and HYBE since 2017 promote and push BTS in the US. No one said that BP didn’t got a push. The difference is how their multiples hiatus didn’t helped them to reach a bigger peak. YG don’t promote enough the song that they’re pushing! We are still waiting for the Ice cream promotions btw! Most of the time they do 1/2 performances of their TT, get some hype then just end it there. Meanwhile BTS constantly promoted in the US since 2017. Every 5/6 months they were back doing another round of full promotions and attempting the get higher peaks on the hot100. Once again I’m not saying that it’s a bad thing, I’m just pointing the big differences between Hybe and YG or Columbia and Interscope! BP in 2022 (for two differents songs) in the US You said words for words: Blackpink has had way more promo than February 2018 BTS ever had / « Non of those were given to fake love » This is Fake love promotions in 2018: And unlike BP I didn’t includes their other promoted track of 2018! Now How is it comparable to BP promo push in 2022?? If a TTH placement was enough why would Hybe and Columbia worked that hard spending that much money on tv promotions and remixes? Blinks keep inflating BP popularity when they clearly display the same appeal than other kpop groups: So since they display the same appeal than the others Kpop groups why none of the others Kpop groups were able to at least match the D4 peak on the hot 100 despite also getting the opportunity to performs on Kimmel, Fallon,Corden or GMA? Edited July 29, 2023 by Adama 8 2
MingYouToo Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 Okay SKZ vs NewJeans for 4th gen overall leader whew this is quite the interesting battle! SKZ just EATING every market globally with how big their fandom is, serving local act all over Europe and eating the Louvre charts but NewJeans whew the public adoration and global recognition, the US GP latching onto them, the Spotify number! Its HYBE vs JYPE for the 4th gen title I fear! a boygroup and a girlgroup duking it out with both finally having semi-competent labels, BTS only won the 3rd gen leader title bc YGE hates BLACKPINK 2023 in K-pop has been so interesting! Wonyoung is such an icon, Aespa and LSRF serving quality, ITZY being mismanaged to hell and back, BLACKPINK renewals, NMIXX idek whats happening to them, SKZ going for global domination. I fear if BTS hides for too long SKZ will have too much momentum they'll start competing the mass buying will be crazy 5
Witnessed ET Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) I do think BP has not been properly managed in the west by YGE and i do think they could be a lot bigger and a more “household level name” if the company knew the power of timing and momentum….but I also agree with the fact that the music itself has been not viable as well. Like who in their rights minds thought that “How you like DA! *random fart noises* would do well with the audience here? Or that ice cream chillin chillin ice cream song Edited July 29, 2023 by Witnessed ET
Mitsuki Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, MingYouToo said: Okay SKZ vs NewJeans for 4th gen overall leader whew this is quite the interesting battle! SKZ just EATING every market globally with how big their fandom is, serving local act all over Europe and eating the Louvre charts but NewJeans whew the public adoration and global recognition, the US GP latching onto them, the Spotify number! Its HYBE vs JYPE for the 4th gen title I fear! a boygroup and a girlgroup duking it out with both finally having semi-competent labels, BTS only won the 3rd gen leader title bc YGE hates BLACKPINK 2023 in K-pop has been so interesting! Wonyoung is such an icon, Aespa and LSRF serving quality, ITZY being mismanaged to hell and back, BLACKPINK renewals, NMIXX idek whats happening to them, SKZ going for global domination. I fear if BTS hides for too long SKZ will have too much momentum they'll start competing the mass buying will be crazy Love to see my BARBEHEIMER slaying 1
Eternium Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 THE ALBUM 940K (370K pure) BORN PINK 450K BLACKPINK Assorted US Streaming Update (7/24/23): Ddu-Du Ddu-Du 515M How You Like That 370M Kill This Love 360M Money (LISA) 290M Boombayah 290M Ice Cream 270M Pink Venom 180M Shut Down 140M Typa Girl 50M Explain to me how BlackPink aren’t super huge when their songs average over 1M units each in the U.S.? Shut Down is going to hit Platinum in August.
redsing707 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SandyJeans said: the rest of the Loona girlies minus Yves are gonna be Lussemble now? Who's HyeJu? Olivia?
Mitsuki Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 I finally decided my Get Up ranking 1. ETA 2. Super Shy 3. Cool With You 4. ASAP 5. New Jeans 6. Get Up (could've been higher If It wasn't an interlude) Overall, I'm still looping the whole album 1
Gorjesspazze9 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 SM has been horrible at scheduling International tours The wasted opportunity of never giving SNSD a real world Tour. Or not Sending Taeyeon to Europe or even venues in L.A. or Chicago 🤦♀️ Even Red Velvet fans have been wondering why they don’t get bigger arenas for thier last tour. Aespa is still growing here in the states, so I can understand why they aren’t selling out thier tour yet. But even then SM has done horrible to promote. Maybe that will change when the new English single comes
MingYouToo Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said: I do think BP has not been properly managed in the west by YGE and i do think they could be a lot bigger and a more “household level name” if the company knew the power of timing and momentum….but I also agree with the fact that the music itself has been not viable as well. Like who in their rights minds thought that “How you like DA! *random fart noises* would do well with the audience here? Or that ice cream chillin chillin ice cream song While true. The music has not been hitting at all but with that being said I feel like Hard to Love with a full BLACKPINK reformat and no rap verses would've been an easy capture to the West. The poprock nature sets itself apart from most girlgroup stuff, plus if Blinks just had as much desire to bulkbuy BLACKPINK in the U.S. they'd have big momentum already. Honestly BLACKPINK doing SZA's sound would be an easy segway into the U.S. market, acoustic r&b pop would be perfect for them. If they renew YG better give them Jack Antonoff I know he's ran through in the Western popgirls but in K-pop hearing something like the Bleachers' Rollercoaster of Lorde's Melodrama would send the K-pop fandom into septic shock (bc it'll probably be the first time they hear music that sounds good on its own ) Rose's debut album being in this vein would EAT so hard taking the girls, gays and depressed metrosexuals to the top of the charts! Edited July 29, 2023 by MingYouToo
MingYouToo Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Eternium said: THE ALBUM 940K (370K pure) BORN PINK 450K BLACKPINK Assorted US Streaming Update (7/24/23): Ddu-Du Ddu-Du 515M How You Like That 370M Kill This Love 360M Money (LISA) 290M Boombayah 290M Ice Cream 270M Pink Venom 180M Shut Down 140M Typa Girl 50M Explain to me how BlackPink aren’t super huge when their songs average over 1M units each in the U.S.? Shut Down is going to hit Platinum in August. the US market clearly is just waiting for them to release a song to latch onto and its clear. The fact that PV and SD went #1 debut day meant they have massive listening base, that eventually tuned out when the songs lost replay value. They really need that breakthrough smash fr everything else will fall into place later.
SandyJeans Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, redsing707 said: Who's HyeJu? Olivia? yeah that's her real name! Olive Hye was her stage name that Jaden gave her but I think she/fans always preferred using Hyeju
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