fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Adama]

5 minutes ago, K$Ellie said:

performances are so outdated in the west, no one promotes their singles at award/talk shows so BP going on Ellen and Jimmy Fallon to perform HYLT wouldn't have made it a top 10 hit or anything

Ice Cream had a huge feature, lots of hype on Twitter, TTH, was sent to radio and had plenty of tiktoks which is more than enough to make it a hit

Dynamite also had a lot of hype on Twitter, a big playlisting, the song impacting the radio a few days after the release, and yet what got them the #1 was their 300k sales. Streams are not enough even for BTS. But all these years of promoting hard payed off bc they grew their fanbase, who is now able to pull high sales for them when they drop all these remix.  

 

Also It’s not outdated to performs for new artists who want to establish themselves.
 

Do it being Chloe and Halle first entry on the bb100 because of their viral performances during 2020 is just another proof. You can get a viral song like Say so, but then Doja and her team performed the song EVERYWHERE, and got a Nicki remix to push the song at #1.

 

[Xalric]

Remember when I said this SHINee album wasn't hitting as hard as it was supposed to... Well I lied.

 

 

 

Because this SONG has been on REPEAT since then.

[Green Tea Is Green]

7 hours ago, sunmimi imfurst said:

 

JYP remembering how to tease songs properly?

 

Jihyo instrumental actually sounds promising. I thought we would get girl crush drop but it doesn’t seem like that?

They're releasing the usual tiktok snippet in a few days after 2 more of these instrumental spoilers and before the 2 mv teasers so good luck with that for jihyo

[Xalric]

How this is always BP!?

 

Reminder that he and his girlfriend has been together for years and she's only 19 and he is 23. He said he started dating her in 2022 but then when they asked about his anniversary he said something like 5 years together...

 

 

[breadcrumbs]

8 hours ago, Spears_Stan said:

Speaking of BGs, according to "korean sales blog" using circle chart info heres the most selling boy groups (as of june 2023):

 

1- BTS: 39.611.376

2- Seventeen: 24.701.135

3- Stray Kids: 16.759.595

4- EXO: 13.244.306

5- NCT Dream: 11.503.943

6- NCT 127: 9.852.751

7- TXT: 9.852.751

8- Enhypen: 7.091.200

9- Ateez: 6.042.026

10- NCT: 5.745.527

 

Other mentions:

Got7: 4.486498

Monsta X: 4.044.605

The Boyz: 3.837.027

Treasure: 2.681.246

 

 

 

Enhypen the youngest group on the list and already Top 8 

[Xalric]

Minnie said she feels old when she looks at the rookie groups cause she's like 8-10 year older than them... Homegirl is only 24...

[Xalric]

 

Not Shuhua covering Britney Spears on tour.

 

The other girls solos:

 

 

YuQi has a new song.

 

Soyeon perform a B-Side from Beam Beam album

 

Minnie perform Dahlia as a solo song.

 

Miyeon performs Drive

 

 

 

[Sonny]

I’m liking TREASURE’s album but there’s better b-sides on the album than the title. 

[Pluto6]

Not Stray Cats selling out out all their 8 dome dates in less then 5 minutes with 2.5 million applicants   It’s giving 4th gen leader 

 

 

[Adama]

3 hours ago, Xalric said:

 

Not Shuhua covering Britney Spears on tour.

 

How this is the same person ? 
 

Hope her dance teacher got a big CHECK bc it’s impressive how much she improved! Ofc she’s not main dancer material but she’s so much better now 

Edited July 29, 2023 by Adama

[illia]

This is so adorable

Rina Sawayama being an Unforgiven stan too... That's my girl 

 

 

[Harrier]

6 hours ago, Pikachu said:

 

 

 sold out in 10 minutes, glad I managed to get my tickets, so excited  

 

Excited for u!! I tried to get tickets and I failed, but I think its for the best bc a trip to SG would have cost far too much  

I will go and see her in Korea... one day  Or at least one of my faves. I cant believe ive been a Kpop stan for 10 years and never seen a Kpop concert 

[rzal]

girl i'm so annoyed at kpop ticket prices... why is g idle standing ticket 109 euro when i paid for 120 for BEYONCE

[Sorecer]

 

they are already setting records in the biggest markets of the west 

 

US , UK , Germany , France 

those oricon new records will come soon too for sure 
 

 

[BellKat]

9 hours ago, Adama said:

 

The revision history lol!  Saying BP had more promo than 2018 BTS when they literally DEBUTED Fake love at the BBMA, followed by performances on Ellen, Corden and SNL + a full radios tour. In fact even  their 2017 release Mic drop the remix as the same amount of performances in the US than HYLT, PV and Shut down combined . And let’s not start to compare BP promo in the US to 2020 BTS Western push bc it’s going to show how delusional you was to said that 

Here you purposely missed the argument to please the rest of your fandom, they really needed validation to the "Blackpink are the messiah who has not been discovered by the GP", don't they?

 

Let's talk about revisionism again:.

 

Most of those Mic Drops performances, the SNL performances happened between 2018-2019. Why are you bunching them up together, like, that's peak revisionism. We can check the dates?

They did not help Fake Love DEBUT

 

Fake Love had ALREADY debuted at #10, which is the point here. At that point in time, BTS did NOT have more promo accumulated than Blackpink by 2022.

 

Blackpink in 2022, when they released PV and the other song, they already got all those activities: Corden, Fallon, VMAs performances, multiple Western Awards show wins, Coachella, Dua collab, Gaga collab, Selena collab, radio tours, radio spins, multiple TTH #1 and cover.

I repeat, Blackpink had more promo than, specifically, February 2018 BTS but they barely got Top20 BB Hot100.

 

At no moment was I talking about Dynamite or Butter, nor I am expecting them to pull those numbers. I don't need to because lower standards are still unachievable for them.

 

9 hours ago, Adama said:

Can you list us the FULL promo ice cream got? Because so far 2018 BTS got the same as them . Getting a #1 placement on TTH was great but when you know that what carried BTS high entries on the BB100 are their website/digitals sales and not their streaming US stats, you know that a TTH is not enough. 

I already did, it got TTH #1, Western artist full promo, Regular radio spins. Non of those were given to Fake Love...

Also history revisionism again, Website sales DID NOT exist for 2018 BTS. They charted with iTunes alone which are not banned for Blackpink either, they can take advantage of it just like everyone else. 

I repeat, I am not asking Blackpink to have a Dynamite/Butter so these "website sale" allegations can not come into play.

 

If your argument is that more people bought Fake Love in 2018 than PV in 2022...

If you say 2018 US ARMY are a bigger fandom than 2022 US Blinks, then you are also shooting yourself in the foot, are you saying that Blackpink have gotten massive promo for years and people are still not turning into their fans?

 

9 hours ago, Adama said:

What we are NOT going to pretend is saying that BTS and BP efforts to break into the US market is the same.

We don't need to pretend they do because noone said that, noone was comparing 2023 BP to 2023 BTS. The argument is why they are still not getting Fake Love debut numbers?

(Let’s not even talk about Boy with Love debut numbers which also happened when BTS still have simmilar levels of push than 2022 BP)

 

Also, let's pretend for a second that February 2018 BTS had accumulated equal promo than September 2022 Blackpink....

 

Here is the crutch of the argument: Blink claim that the GP would love Blackpink if they get enough exposure.

 

So, that alleged Pre-Fake-love level of promo should have pushed them way higher than it did to BTS, its enough promo to do something, no?

But it DID NOT happen 

 

That's the thing, Blackpink does not have the GP appeal Blinks claim they do. Blinks keep inflating BP popularity when they clearly display the same appeal than other kpop groups.

Blinks can not keep them in that pedestal and pretend other groups have 'less appeal' anymore.

Y'll can not keep putting down other groups anymore.

It's been DEBUNKED.

 

 

PS: Also, lemme point out how this argument concern the "Western appeal" argument, BP is massive in Asia, congratulations  I am not irrational.

At no point I am dismissing their Asia success so anyone who starts to bring out Asian stats would look foolish but watch them 

Edited July 29, 2023 by BellKat

[Odette Violet]

9 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

When SNSD came back after being down a Member and the Netizens said they wouldn’t recover 

But Tiffany said “Hey Girls, Do You Know What Time It Is?!”
 

And GG made History again with a #1  Smash song that went to sell nearly 900K digital singles and becoming an iconic radio staple in Korea. Spawning a trending bohemian Summer style in Highschools and campuses across the nation. Also Party Made SNSD the first Kpop group ever to win 100 Music Show broadcasts! 

 

Their 10th #1 Hit in their 8th year 

 

9 hours ago, katyberry said:

Don't forget they are also the only SM group to be certified and they have not one, but 3 songs to achieve that 

 

 

Girls and Spicy are next. Their chokehold in China and Japan without even releasing anything is truly impressive  

[Odette Violet]

 

A Superstar 

 

[Kh-Loud]

Name a better album track that was released this year, which is better than this….. ooh no u can’t cuz it doesn’t exist

 

 

Edited July 29, 2023 by Kh-Loud

[WeFoundWill]

But I was told no demand and empty seats due to scalpers by @Sept and @Save-Me-Oprah

 

 

another lie from the Blackpink hate propaganda? 

 

 

[ItsJustMe.]

1 minute ago, WeFoundWill said:

But I was told no demand and empty seats due to scalpers by @Sept and @Save-Me-Oprah

 

 

another lie from the Blackpink hate propaganda? 

 

 

I guess it has been DEBUNKED 

[WeFoundWill]

 

 

the Taylor Swifts of SEA

[Companion]

I refuse to believe the A2K girls are the best options for jyp to put in boothcamp  Where are all the American teens that going to dance studios 7/24? Did they only promote the auditions on the koreaboo circles?? I am sure there is mad talented people in States that would kill to be a group member.

 

Imagine JYPig collabrating with Robin Antin to create an international gg. But I know robin would force the young members to wear stockings and lingerie 

[Britney Jean]

2 hours ago, Xalric said:

 

Not Shuhua covering Britney Spears on tour.

 

The other girls solos:

 

 

YuQi has a new song.

 

Soyeon perform a B-Side from Beam Beam album

 

Minnie perform Dahlia as a solo song.

 

Miyeon performs Drive

 

 

 

Shuhua gave the gays everything they want 

[Companion]

2 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

Not Stray Cats selling out out all their 8 dome dates in less then 5 minutes with 2.5 million applicants   It’s giving 4th gen leader 

 

 

Honestly it feels like they are the leaders of kpop in general at the moment. 

[Sorecer]