fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[naomi24]

7 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

I didn’t read this at all but I guess you’re saying something like Christina changed the trajectory of pop music by being Britney’s rival. No she didn’t.

 

No I am saying that Britney changed the trajectory of pop music by being Britney but then Taylor swift took over and you are talking like a drunk swiftie

[Hitchhiker]

19 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said:

This is honestly tragic, cause how are you selling 4M albums apparently, and yet your title track can't even debut with 1M streams. Y'all dragged NMIXX, but NCT DREAM is even worse cause they sold 4X more

 

Lower than “impactless no success precedent EXO” with ~4x the sales 

[Cheers]

Wow never thought I’d see a day where people say BIGBANG, of all groups, did sajaegi

[harrythevifan]

7 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

Were you an exotic too? 

Just a fan of that "Monster" song.

 

And the thing about that video is how it goes from chaos to immediately forming a line.  Koreans.

 

[Born to Run]

1 minute ago, Cheers said:

Wow never thought I’d see a day where people say BIGBANG, of all groups, did sajaegi

You think sajaegi isn’t the oldest trick in the K-Pop book 

 

[Cheers]

 

JYPayola stans should be ashamed!

[harrythevifan]

Just now, Cheers said:

Wow never thought I’d see a day where people say BIGBANG, of all groups, did sajaegi

When Brave Bros was accused of the sajaegi while producing Sistar, some of the "evidence" consisted of saying he did it while producing Big Bang.  They just zealous.

 

 

[Cheers]

Just now, harrythevifan said:

When Brave Bros was accused of the sajaegi while producing Sistar, some of the "evidence" consisted of saying he did it while producing Big Bang.  They just zealous.

 

 

It’s always the SM stans. Sad!

[OrgVisual]

15 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

The fad off of BTS & EXO is sending a bit but lets stop acting like EXO dind't have any impact and celebrate Jungkook's successful single I fear. He's ending Morgan Wallen AND Taylor Swift what's not to love. 

He's predicted to debut #3 with 100k sales and the stream is actually not far behind MAGA Wallen. Radio payola is getting out of hand on BB charts

[naomi24]

EXO also had impact by having one of the most lineup changes in any group  and the chinaline lawsuits contributing to rise in sinophobia among koreans.

 

Not to mention one of them is married with kids and active    and one of them (sehun) is 75% gay. 

Now that's what I call breaking boundaries 

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, Century said:

SVT has also been outselling EXO for years. BTS's success is monumental but it isn't incomparable. There are other idol groups in stadiums ww, there are other idol groups topping album charts worldwide, there were global kpop hits before BTS ever debuted, etc. What BTS has that's special is doing all of those at once, something EXO is also being accused of being special for despite being at a much smaller scale.

And they are doing it all... after BTS. And after the amount of attention and doors they've opened to K-pop stars widing It's reach and making it more known.  

 

It's like saying K-pop acts impact in Hallyu on Japan is similar to BoA just because they are doing numbers - even bigger than her -, when she literally was one of the reasons why It's happening in the first place. 

 

I don't even know how we switched the conversation for me to defend BTS, but that's it. 

 

Seventeen is one of the cases I mentioned that are benefiting from the impact BTS left the industry. Let's start with the fact they are under a big Company BTS made bigger through their success and their marketing tactics and amazing distribution across America, Europe, Asia and Oceania is something they wouldn't reach under Pledis. If their peak was between 2012 and 2018 and they should've left to military, things would be different. 

 

Being luckier than EXO doesn't take away Seventeen's achievements or any current group. But It doesn't sound like a fair comparison too when they are peaking in different moments for the industry. 

 

About TVXQ, in my opinion, their impact on Japan is similar to EXO in China when It comes to build dedicated rabbit fans in a market. They weren't the first, but took to another level. 

[OrgVisual]

EXO manages to produce some very successful solo artists though (Baekhyun, DO, Chen, Kai). Not every group has that 

[Mitsuki]

Why is this thread dragging EXO and Taylor AT THE SAME TIME

Let me breathe

 

[Sheep]

8 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

And they are doing it all... after BTS. And after the amount of attention and doors they've opened to K-pop stars widing It's reach and making it more known.  

 

It's like saying K-pop acts impact in Hallyu on Japan is similar to BoA just because they are doing numbers - even bigger than her -, when she literally was one of the reasons why It's happening in the first place. 

 

I don't even know how we switched the conversation for me to defend BTS, but that's it. 

 

Seventeen is one of the cases I mentioned that are benefiting from the impact BTS left the industry. Let's start with the fact they are under a big Company BTS made bigger through their success and their marketing tactics and amazing distribution across America, Europe, Asia and Oceania is something they wouldn't reach under Pledis. If their peak was between 2012 and 2018 and they should've left to military, things would be different. 

 

Being luckier than EXO doesn't take away Seventeen's achievements or any current group. But It doesn't sound like a fair comparison too when they are peaking in different moments for the industry. 

 

About TVXQ, in my opinion, their impact on Japan is similar to EXO in China when It comes to build dedicated rabbit fans in a market. They weren't the first, but took to another level. 

How long have you been a kpop fan? You have some things backwards here and I don't want to write another thesis untangling it rn after I just clocked eternium. (EX: pushing kpop into Japan was always the industry's goal pre-boa, pre-tvxq, pushing into the west has been priority #1 of the big 3 since Rain and Boa attempted it, SM has been successfully pushing boy groups in China since 1st gen, etc. Breaking into these markets was an inevitability and not up to the natural popularity of any one group) 

Edited July 18, 2023 by Century

[Adama]

17 minutes ago, Cheers said:

It’s always the SM stans. Sad!

They still can digest that since 2010, most of their peers used to score bigger hits than them …

 

They are still the biggest gg from the 2nd gen  so idk why  they have to accuse everyone of sajaegi  

Edited July 18, 2023 by Adama

[Cheers]

Where are Bareback Girls? They signed with Warner and no teaser no nothing. Kinda wanna see if they’ll release a bop or not.

[OrgVisual]

 

Coming for Song Hye Kyo's wig  

 

[Sheep]

2 minutes ago, Sept said:

 

Coming for Song Hye Kyo's wig  

 

100 years from now SNSD will still somehow be one of Korea's top Girl Groups. 

[VelvetCrush]

EXCUSE ME MA'AM

she got her masters in cuntology with a concentration in motherlogical studies from the university of servington

 

 

[OrgVisual]

2 minutes ago, Century said:

100 years from now SNSD will still somehow be one of Korea's top Girl Groups. 

See when you invested in solo activities which contributed to the group's brand as well . Their hustle back in the day worked wonders for them. 

 

And i don't get why they decided to do the opposite way for aespa  

[Mitsuki]

19 minutes ago, Century said:

How long have you been a kpop fan? You have some things backwards here and I don't want to write another thesis untangling it rn after I just clocked eternium. (EX: pushing kpop into Japan was always the industry's goal pre-boa, pre-tvxq, pushing into the west has been priority #1 of the big 3 since Rain and Boa attempted it, SM has been successfully pushing boy groups in China since 1st gen, etc. Breaking into these markets was an inevitability and not up to the natural popularity of any one group) 

I know It it all, lol. 

I literally said EXO wasn't the first, TXVQ wasn't first, BoA was "one of the reasons" not the only one. I just said they took it to another level and generated literal impact. For example, SM created Super Junior to be a rotational project in units where they were aiming to break into the chinese market. But their attempt wasn't as successful as EXO's. EXO expanded the cbars culture of farming physical sales that until today is used. 

 

And I'm not saying anyone never tried to push their acts to the west before BTS. But sorry, they werent as successful. And their attempts didn't impact as much as BTS to a global level otherwise EXO wouldn't be the first to cummulate 1 million sales through album sales in 12 years, cause Wonder Girls debutting at Hot 100 and doing western collabs, SNSD performing an english version in a talk show and Rain's promotions would've be making acts selling out stadiums ww and topping worldwide charts in the 00s

 

Saying some things would be inevitable is just a projection of paralel world to dismiss their impact. I'm talking about the reality and who did what. 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Mitsuki

[BellKat]

Different groups are being dragged on each page, i cant-

We can't keep up 

[harrythevifan]

10 minutes ago, Century said:

100 years from now SNSD will still somehow be one of Korea's top Girl Groups. 

 Maybe.  But domestically you got to think after reunification happens, they'll get pushed down the list by the impending flood of northern Korean girl groups serving them traditional values.

 

 

8 minutes ago, VelvetCrush said:

EXCUSE ME MA'AM

she got her masters in cuntology with a concentration in motherlogical studies from the university of servington

 

 

She wasn't just Soyeon's personal assistant -- it an apprenticeship!

 

[Sheep]

11 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

I know It it all, lol. 

I literally said EXO wasn't the first, TXVQ wasn't first, BoA was "one of the reasons" not the only one. I just said they took it to another level and generated literal impact. For example, SM created Super Junior to be a rotational project in units where they were aiming to break into the chinese market. But their attempted wasn't as successful was EXO's. EXO expanded the cbars culture of farming physical sales that until today is used. 

 

And I'm not saying anyone never tried to push their acts to the west before BTS. But sorry, they were as successful. And their attempts didn't impacted as much as BTS to a global level otherwise EXO wouldn't be the first to cummulate 1 million sales through album sales, cause Wonder Girls debutting at Hot 100 and doing western collabs, SNSD performing an english version in a talk show and Rain's promotions would've be making acts selling out stadiums ww and topping worldwide charts in the 00s

 

Saying some times would be inevitable is just a projection of paralel world to dismiss their impact. I'm talking about the reality and who did what. 

Kpop was doing well in pnysicals and touring in China before EXO ever debuted. SM as a company was founded on the idea of exporting Korean media globally, the other members of the big 4 were created later with the same mission.

 

Millions of dollars were generated in the Chinese market before EXO. Millions of dollars were generated in Japan before TVXQ. Millions of dollars were generated in the US before BTS. All of these examples also followed after years of kpop companies promoting and building connections in those markets. Their success is monumental but it's never been by accident or by natural demand. I'm not inventing parallel universes when I say Big Bang had single arena dates gross 2m+ in the US before BTS broke through, and even when they did that, it was on the backs of a lot of hard work by top agencies to ensure kpop would eventually make it here, kpop was already years into positioning itself as the next big thing even then.

 

China in particular though was completely cracked open as a market before EXO with groups like T-ARA and BB outselling domestic acts with their monster hits. Cbars are all them but I don't think that's a positive legacy. 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Century

[xrosup]

42 minutes ago, Cheers said:

 

JYPayola stans should be ashamed!

I'm screaming at that one account voting for NMIXX 1 million times