fais_2311 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said: Wow ???? Stop doing fansign/preorder benefit for Photobook/Bigger version. Just do the mini version for that kind of event.
fais_2311 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Wait, not EXO ending ZB1 like this The way we all thought it was going to be the other way around Like EXO literally ended them in every metric (Sales, streams, digitals) Looks like one groups wa overhyped while the other was under-hyped Poor @Somi One of them is Legends, one of them is Rookies. Nothing surprising. but what surprised me the most, how ZB1 charted Top 20 on Melon yet SKZ failed to do that with all of their title tracks. Investigate that maybe 🤔 3 1
naomi24 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 But seriously... What changed? Someone should make the graph of the average kpop sale every year... Yes it has grown exponentially with the growth of kpop but some of these recent numbers make no sense. Why is everyone a multi million seller now? I doubt the number of kpop fans buying the albums has suddenly quadrupled for every group in the past year. And even the girls are selling more than a million now..this is unprecedented. Have they changed some counting method for the sales? I strongly suspect that this is the case.
naomi24 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Wait, not EXO ending ZB1 like this The way we all thought it was going to be the other way around Like EXO literally ended them in every metric (Sales, streams, digitals) Looks like one groups wa overhyped while the other was under-hyped Poor @Somi Ngl I was also surprised...the exo kfans seem to be cooperating this time. lets not jinx it 1
fais_2311 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 When the music show promo start, this will increase a lot 4
fais_2311 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, naomi24 said: But seriously... What changed? Someone should make the graph of the average kpop sale every year... Yes it has grown exponentially with the growth of kpop but some of these recent numbers make no sense. Why is everyone a multi million seller now? I doubt the number of kpop fans buying the albums has suddenly quadrupled for every group in the past year. And even the girls are selling more than a million now..this is unprecedented. Have they changed some counting method for the sales? I strongly suspect that this is the case. PHOTOCARDS. That was the only reason. K-pop fans are obsessed with those. And nowadays a lot of websites which sell kpop albums like Ktown4u, Withmuu, Soundwave, Yes24 and many more start doing this fansign and preorder benefit special photocard with them. Not only for one time. But several times for every website. JYP group has like 4 rounds for each website And there will be more websites in the future.
Selenasworld Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Take Me Apart said: XG's song flopped let this be a lesson for them, we don't want any more rap songs. How It flopped? Even with a very short music video that scrapped most of their raps it's doing perfectly at YouTube and might be their most acclaimed MV in the streets, also it's their most stable song ever in Spotify so far, if this is them ding poorly it only means they're gonna stomp on everyone with their second title track
Pluto6 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Not the ZB1 stans crying when it's y'all that have set up your faves this bad On 7/4/2023 at 6:04 AM, Somi said: ZB1 might actually outchart New Jeans at this point On 7/6/2023 at 5:26 AM, Somi said: Stray Kids fans already threatened On 7/8/2023 at 2:04 AM, Somi said: Like you said that's just media play, they're 4th gen and about to destroy SKZ. You should get ready! Good luck with that Stray kids - 5-Star = 16.2M Youth in the shade - 2.3M (the supposedly most anticipated bg debut of all time according to you) Like ZB1 couldn't even surpass ATEEZ Edited July 12, 2023 by Pluto2022
Selenasworld Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, fais_2311 said: When the music show promo start, this will increase a lot They are performing better than the other boy groups digitally (as expected) the gayer the better charting the straighter the flopper digitally The Boyz , Enhypen, ZB1, X1, and txt all represent the gay loyalty
Selenasworld Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Pluto2022 said: Not the ZB1 stans crying when it's y'all that have set up your faves this bad Good luck with that 5-Star = 16.2M Youth in the shade - 2.3M (the supposedly most anticipated bg debut of all time according to you) Like they couldn't even surpass ATEEZ ***** you keep fake staning and setting everyone up 1 1
naomi24 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, fais_2311 said: PHOTOCARDS. That was the only reason. K-pop fans are obsessed with those. And nowadays a lot of websites which sell kpop albums like Ktown4u, Withmuu, Soundwave, Yes24 and many more start doing this fansign and preorder benefit special photocard with them. Not only for one time. But several times for every website. JYP group has like 4 rounds for each website And there will be more websites in the future. I never got the obsession with collecting all photocards but atleast them make the option of giving all these special photocards over some digital version... Literally a waste of money and paper. I remember someone posting an article on twitter about some angry orphanage owner appealing to kpop fans to stop giving these photocardless random kpop albums as "charity" to the kids instead of something valuable.
mokitsu Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Unless Jihyo controls her screeching, her solo is a lock for the worst release of the year
Fadedlights Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, naomi24 said: all these for fansigns / special photocards... At this rate imagine when b*s has a comeback.... selling like 10 million albums? More than the number of jellyfish in the Pacific ocean..... Mother nature is ****** Lmao BTS albums don't end up in the trash as much as other groups bc HYBE has never done that many store exclusive photocards for them. I'm curious what selling strategy they'll have once they do a new album. If they start doing 50 store pc versions the western news will have a field day bc they're one of the few relevant groups to them Also in regards to NCT Dream, do we know if they did a lot of store version pcs? SM don't do that many for NCT so wondering if SM changed that or is it a bit more organic lol 1
Pluto6 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Selenasworld said: ***** you keep fake staning and setting everyone up @Ryan 1
Selenasworld Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Eternium said: The way you gaslit me into thinking he’d be muscular 99% of the time bg stans serves the Troye muscle daddy meme
Selenasworld Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: @Ryan It says bish, don't gaslight ryan
Vrx. Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: Jihyo needs to learn fluent English so she can be the global queen of pop She’d consistently serve ***** and vocals The dance charts will await her with open arms 1
Pluto6 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Selenasworld said: It says bish, don't gaslight ryan Who am I setting up then?
Selenasworld Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Pluto2022 said: Who am I setting up then? Everyone isn't JYPing ZB1 and OEC just in the last page
Fadedlights Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 I wasn't feeling the song this morning with the MV but listening to Spotify with earphones is such a different experience. I'm in love NMIXX >>>>>>>>> EXO and ZB1 lol I'm curious how they'll do on the Korean charts considering LMLT fell down the charts pretty fast. Even Teddy Bear is much more stable and charting better this far after release. I think both Nmixx and Itzy need a good performing titles that has some longevity that shows their songs are more than a cute moment.
Pluto6 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Selenasworld said: They are performing better than the other boy groups digitally (as expected) the gayer the better charting the straighter the flopper digitally The Boyz , Enhypen, ZB1, X1, and txt all represent the gay loyalty But ENHYPEN are literally doing worse than SKZ in digitals though Edited July 12, 2023 by Pluto2022
Mitsuki Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, naomi24 said: But seriously... What changed? Someone should make the graph of the average kpop sale every year... Yes it has grown exponentially with the growth of kpop but some of these recent numbers make no sense. Why is everyone a multi million seller now? I doubt the number of kpop fans buying the albums has suddenly quadrupled for every group in the past year. And even the girls are selling more than a million now..this is unprecedented. Have they changed some counting method for the sales? I strongly suspect that this is the case. I don't think It's rocket science. 1. K-pop became vastly more popular (even on markets It was already popular such as China and Japan. We have more top groups now in both markets than in previous generations). 2. The distribution got a lot better. Previously, to get a korean album you had to ship from a korean store or do group orders organized in your country by other fans. But now there's Kpop albums get distributed globally by Top-Notch Western Distributors and you can easily find in a store next to your house. 3. Individual jewel cases/digipacks got a lot more popular and they are cheaper than the usual regular versions. Everyone is releasing now. More versions also equals to more pobs/photocards to collectors. 4. Since the pandemic, we were introduced to videocalls. What before was luxuary for korean fans, since the fansigns were in person, now people around the world can bulk buy to talk to their idol. I hope I helped
Save-Me-Oprah Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 ZB1 is doing better than literally every other debut, idk why y'all are fuming 1
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