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16 minutes ago, harrythevifan said:

It's not a pact, it's that they get first choice of kids looking to audition.  Why bother with someone's sloppy seconds when bestest fresh meats is constantly being delivered at slave contract prices?

 

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But I’m talking about popular idols only!For exemple, when they left SM none of the Snds girls signed into a big 3 company despite being popular! Somi didn’t sign to YG but only TBL , no one big agency tried to sign Kang Daniel either, despite him being the most popular Wanna one member etcc…

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23 minutes ago, Adama said:

You think Big 3 agencies made a deal together ?

 

But They also love to push the SM/JYP/YG and now Hybe family thing so I guess it could be possible.
 

I found my exemple btw: Somi!

 

She left JYP but for TBL, not YG. 

SM contracts probably have non-compete clauses (maybe JYP and YG do as well). If you leave their label you will be restricted even after you leave. 

 

See Jessica, Luna, Amber, Tiffany, Sooyoung etc. They all released music but can't promote on music shows after leaving SM, because the contract probably blocks that. So instead they promoted in other markets (Jessica in China, Tiffany in U.S. etc.) or switched to acting (Krystal, Sooyoung, Seohyun etc.). The same would happen to Taeyeon if she left.

 

Somi is different because she was still under a trainee contract at JYP, she never debuted, so she could transfer. The big 3 agencies trade trainees quite often.

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13 hours ago, Adama said:

I love Kyungsoo, he also have my favorite tone in Exo but no way you think he’s better than Baekhyun 

 

He absolutely is. There’s no denying Baekhyun’s extensive range, but from a technical perspective, Kyungsoo has him beat. There’s a reason Kyungsoo did most of the carrying during a chunk of their rookie years. That is, until Baekhyun proved himself to be more reliable (he continues to receive vocal lessons so I’m sure that helped a ton). 
 

Chen - good

Kyungsoo - proficient

Bakehyun - above average/lower proficient range

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EXO being over doesn’t sit right with me 

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sana and Nayeon in their it girl era again :WAP:

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See when you make good music.

 

 

We love a Global Girl Group :gaygacat4:

 

 

 

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True intellectuals know all of the Big 3 are trash :giraffe:

 

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10 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

 

 

 

See when you make good music.

 

 

We love a Global Girl Group :gaygacat4:

 

 

 

The Lourve stanning :clap3:not easy to have that

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1 hour ago, Cheers said:

 

&HYPEN whew

Awww they reunited! How cute. K almost made it to ENHYPEN but they decided to go with Niki at the last minute (I know it was rigged I just know it) :coffee2:

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3 minutes ago, Sept said:

The Lourve stanning :clap3:not easy to have that

 

 

Hot people buys and sees Talent :gaycat:

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Zack said:

SM contracts probably have non-compete clauses (maybe JYP and YG do as well). If you leave their label you will be restricted even after you leave. 

I considered this, but they probably don't put language like that because they've never needed to, and it could come back to bite them during any sort of legal/arbitration proceedings. 

 

Kinda like with Exo, when half of them ran away to China, SM realized they needed to sharpen their contracts a bit.  It's going to take something crazy for them to change how they did things.  And with the Saudi money funds investing in kpop, maybe crazy is coming!

 

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it's becoming too much :WAP:

 

 

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13 minutes ago, harrythevifan said:

I considered this, but they probably don't put language like that because they've never needed to, and it could come back to bite them during any sort of legal/arbitration proceedings. 

Hmm maybe...but it hasn't stopped SM in the past...

 

My suspicion is that they do have something like that in their contracts to restrict artist activities after leaving, for precisely this reason...it's along the same lines as them being desperate to always lock in their idols for 10 years+ even if it requires very shady methods and loopholes to achieve it. Something we most recently saw yet again with EXO-CBX's disputes this year.

 

Also the fact that we have basically never seen ex-SM idols promote on music shows or have wide scale promotion supports it, regardless of whether the idol left on good or bad terms.

 

I can't think of a single example, whereas for YG and JYP there are examples (Minzy, Sunmi etc)

 

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2 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

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- GIDLE being #1 for 4th gen ggs on both SPotify and MelOn :clap3:

- TXT being the 2nd most streamed 4th gen act and surpassing 1 billion :eek:

- SKZ being in the top 9 :eek:

 

The gap between TXT and SKZ

 

corria really HATES them

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6 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

The gap between TXT and SKZ

 

corria really HATES them

Spoiler

thank you bullyjin :bam:

 

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30 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

Awww they reunited! How cute. K almost made it to ENHYPEN but they decided to go with Niki at the last minute (I know it was rigged I just know it) :coffee2:

We were robbed omfg. K is cute and GROWN ugh.

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Giggle stats are so crazy (even if they always been #1 on spotify if counting K/DA)

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Super Shy might become my fav NewJeans song along with Attention.

Hypeboy is too overplayed and overrated. OMG was cute but I got tired of it already. Now I'm starting to understand why they're going for more minimalistic sounds, it really DOES age a lot better in a long-term perspective.

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I might say even if I don't consider boy groups' releases better than girl groups' releases this year ENHYPEN, EXO, SHINee, ZB1, and TXT all have released some great music :clap3:maybe noise music is losing this year.

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1 hour ago, Zack said:

SM contracts probably have non-compete clauses (maybe JYP and YG do as well). If you leave their label you will be restricted even after you leave. 

 

See Jessica, Luna, Amber, Tiffany, Sooyoung etc. They all released music but can't promote on music shows after leaving SM, because the contract probably blocks that. So instead they promoted in other markets (Jessica in China, Tiffany in U.S. etc.) or switched to acting (Krystal, Sooyoung, Seohyun etc.). The same would happen to Taeyeon if she left.

 

Somi is different because she was still under a trainee contract at JYP, she never debuted, so she could transfer. The big 3 agencies trade trainees quite often.

So no chance of Jinni re-debuting? :chick3:

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2 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

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- GIDLE being #1 for 4th gen ggs on both SPotify and MelOn :clap3:

- TXT being the 2nd most streamed 4th gen act and surpassing 1 billion :eek:

- SKZ being in the top 9 :eek:

 

The Boyz at #8?? Surely this is inaccurate. I’m supposed to believe they have more melon streams than for instance Stayc girls who have actual hits to their name?? :celestial5:

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Who is this newjeans ender??

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said:

The gap between TXT and SKZ

 

corria really HATES them

The gap between SKZ and TXT on both Spotify and YouTube is way bigger with SKZ stomping, so let them have MelOn

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4 minutes ago, xrosup said:
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thank you bullyjin :bam:

 

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I honestly don't think the scandal with Hyunjin had any effect cause tbh SKZ aren't popular enough domestically for the GP to care about the scandal like that. Had SKZ been bigger domestically let's say like SVT, it would've ended bad for Hyunjin and the whole group, and Hyunjin would've gotten booted whether he was innocent or not. Btw, Hyunjin is still also the most popular member in Korea along with Felix if I'm not mistaken, so kicking him out wouldn't resolve anything and thank god they didn't! :clap3:

 

1 minute ago, levi_valvi said:

So no chance of Jinni re-debuting? :chick3:

JYP is not like SM, just look at how the ex JYP idols are thriving after they left JYP: HyunA, Sunmi, Suzy, Jay Park, all the GOT7 members etc. 

 

1 minute ago, levi_valvi said:

The Boyz at #8?? Surely this is inaccurate. I’m supposed to believe they have more melon streams than for instance Stayc girls who have actual hits to their name?? :celestial5:

The Gayz are or used to be the most popular 4th gen boy group in Korea, and actually has top 10 hits if I'm not mistaken? They are just very local

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