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9 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

Stray Kids "★★★★★ (5-STAR)" was the biggest K-Pop group album debut of 2023, with 71.44M streams!  No other 2023 K-Pop group album surpassed 50M streams on the first week.

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Biggest Spotify First Week Album Debuts by 4th Generation Acts of all time:

 

#1 Stray Kids - 5-Star – 71.44M  (new*)

#2 LE SSERAFIM - UNFORGIVEN – 45.36M

#3 TXT - TNC: TEMPTATION – 41.19M

#4 NewJeans - OMG – 40.65M

#5 Stray Kids - NOEASY – 40.26M

#6 Stray Kids - ODDINARY – 37.12M

#7 IVE - I've IVE – 34.22M

#8 ENHYPEN - DARK BLOOD – 33.42M

#9 Stray Kids - MAXIDENT – 33.02M

#10 Stray Kids - SKZ-REPLAY – 30.89M

 

SKZ occupying half of the list + they are the only group to have albums from previous years as well in this list :clap3:

 

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Biggest Spotify Song Debut by 4th Gen Boygroups of all time (First Week) 

 

#1 Stray Kids - S-Class — 15,881,204  

#2 ENHYPEN - Bite Me — 14,655,535

#3 TXT - Sugar Rush Ride — 13,677,737

#4 Stray Kids - MANIAC — 12,220,799  

#5 TXT - 0X1=LOVESONG — 9,869,663

 

How much do their fans stream. People outside their fanbase barely even like the song. I like Side Effects a lot, S-class is not even in it's vicinity if people are comparing them both.

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None of BTS or Blackpink solo song are actual hits(other than Money maybe). No amount of mass streaming will change that. Jennie's Solo is a hit in Korea though.

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Red Velvet without Joy, aespa without Giselle, & now SHINee without Onew due to health issue. All In the past few weeks. Is SM building Sanitary? 

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Listening to fromis_9's new album rn and it feels very GWSN lmao. It has great production values and the songs are generally great but they don't particularly stand out imo.

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Most streamed 4th gen kpop songs on spotify

 

June 08 update

1. OMG= 372,813,336 (+1,457,999)
2. Ditto= 354,565,895 (+933,929)
3. Cupid - Twin Ver.= 350,839,811 (+4,048,427)
4. Hype Boy= 331,134,671 (+698,674)
5. POP/STARS= 305,649,350 (+118,839)
6. WANNABE= 304,811,323
7. LOVE DIVE= 287,853,306
8. ANTIFRAGILE= 273,841,926 (+697,804)
9. God's Menu= 267,282,618 (+296,365)
10. FEVER= 248,349,140
11. After LIKE= 243,597,129
12. Attention= 242,793,822 (+466,087)
13. ELEVEN= 237,418,643
14. FEARLESS (2023 Ver.)= 215,946,689 (+318,677)
15. DALLA DALLA= 212,470,387 (June 6)
16. LOCO= 206,438,388
17. Drunk-Dazed= 202,166,211
18. 0X1=LOVESONG (I Know I Love You) feat. Seori= 201,589,790 (192,731)
19. MORE= 200,250,928 (+108,097)
20. Polaroid Love (CD ONLY)= 200,064,621
21. MANIAC= 199,624,051 (+353,375)
22. Not Shy= 196,026,949
23. Next Level= 193,521,959 (+132,265)
24. Thunderous= 191,076,284 (+212,946)
25. TOMBOY= 190,501,395 (+359,222)
26. Back Door= 189,909,050 (+188,447)
27. Black Mamba= 186,265,685 (+147,091)
28. DARARI= 175,041,308
29. In the morning= 173,384,112
30. LO$ER=LO♡ER= 171,427,083 (+156,340)
31. THE BADDEST= 171,003,973 (+79,872)
32. After School= 170,548,407
33. Blue Hour= 170,032,912 (+143,078)
34. Anti-Romantic= 167,554,170 (+124,258)
35. Savage= 159,875,444 149,106
36. Nxde= 154,448,622 (+387,708)
37. CROWN= 151,112,805 (+57,219)
38. WA DA DA= 148,096,455
39. VILLAIN= 147,371,166 (+131,722)
40. 9 and Three Quarters (Run Away)= 145,796,062 (+96,057)
41. ICY= 143,186,064 (June 06)
42. DUN DUN= 140,895,304
43. Cookie= 139,711,855 (+271,925)
44. MIROH= 137,543,750 (+61,432)
45. La Vie en Rose= 136,775,310
46. Given-Taken= 133,407,610 (June 06)
47. O.O= 130,883,374
48. PS5 (with TOMORROW X TOGETHER & Alan Walker)= 123,081,744 (+168,208)
49. LATATA= 122,705,623 (June 07)
50. Step Back= 119,389,830
51. CASE 143= 118,482,666 (+342,859)
52. Good Boy Gone Bad= 118,399,969 (+164,475)
53. Oh my god= 115,484,698 (June 07)
54. Bon Bon Chocolat= 115,453,069
55. Cupid= 110,453,091 (+852,001)
56. Adios= 110,272,231
57. DICE= 105,246,476
58. LA DI DA= 104,592,159
59. Red Lights (Bang Chan, Hyunjin)= 102,969,506 (+141,319)
60. STEREOTYPE= 102,588,670
61. 도깨비불 (Illusion)= 101,356,761 (+172,217)
62. Jopping= 100,734,258
63. WONDERLAND= 99,868,572
64. Can't You See Me?= 99,367,806 (+99,188)
65. ASAP= 98,562,301
66. Dreams Come True= 95,341,695 (+76,979)
67. Hurt= 94,419,807 (+219,303)
68. Sour Grapes= 93,289,867 (+208,218)
69. HANN (Alone)= 92,344,948 (June 07)
70. Sugar Rush Ride= 90,694,223 457,253
71. Tamed-Dashed= 88,575,429 (June 06)
72. Cat & Dog= 87,060,296 (+60,415)
73. MY BAG= 86,642,220 (+186,740)
74. I AM= 84,718,500
75. FIESTA= 84,421,122
76. RUN2U= 83,539,839
77. Panorama= 82,519,542
78. JIKJIN= 82,356,285
79. LION= 81,724,318 (June 07)
80. Answer= 80,442,227 (June 06)
81. DRUM GO DUM= 79,936,754 (+47,831)
82. Girls= 79,682,362 (+117,430)
83. Heart Attack (츄)= 76,727,054
84. Charmer= 75,354,173 (+176,412)
85. Wave= 75,023,837 (June 06)
86. Magic= 74,859,147 (+65,604)
87. DOMINO= 74,634,461 (+98,430)
88. Blessed-Cursed= 73,845,710 (June 06)
89. Say My Name= 73,869,358 (June 06)
90. Senorita= 73,575,696 (June 07)
91. Christmas EveL= 73,126,563 (+52,750)
92. PTT (Paint The Town)= 72,788,001
93. Blue Flame (2023 Ver.)= 72,630,615 (+153,107)
94. Deja Vu= 72,480,036
95. SNEAKERS= 72,267,375 (June 06)
95. Secret Story of the Swan= 71,958,361
97. HWAA= 70,264,247 (June 07)
98. Future Perfect (Pass the MIC)= 68,139,269 (June 06)
99. Easy= 68,368,191 (+64,788)
100. Violeta= 68,289,183

 

 

 

Girl groups= 61

[ ] NewJeans= 6

[ ] K/DA= 5

[ ] (G)I-DLE= 12

[ ] ITZY= 7

[ ] FIFTY FIFTY= 2

[ ] IVE= 4

[ ] LE SSERAFIM= 3

[ ] aespa= 6

[ ] Weeekly= 1

[ ] EVERGLOW= 4

[ ] Kep1er= 1

[ ] IZ*ONE= 5

[ ] NMIXX= 2

[ ] GOT the beat= 1

[ ] StayC= 3

[ ] LOONA= 1

 

Boy groups= 38

[ ] Stray Kids= 11

[ ] ENHYPEN= 7

[ ] TXT= 12

[ ] TREASURE= 2

[ ] SuperM= 1

[ ] ATEEZ= 5

 

Solo= 1

[ ] Chuu= 1

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Get said:

None of BTS or Blackpink solo song are actual hits(other than Money maybe). No amount of mass streaming will change that. Jennie's Solo is a hit in Korea though.

Jisoo’s Flower is literally a viral hit in the real world. :ahh:

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3 hours ago, Asscatchem said:

https://twitter.com/AboutMusicYT/status/1667281821829087238

 

jennie needs to stay away from Marvel if she knows whats good for her brand

at least The Idol was her Spring Breakers aka a throwaway production just to remind the world how hot she is

You think taking an euphoria 2.0 flop show is better than featuring in the world most famous franchise :rip: 

 

solo has 500M streams btw. I think people think you have to be in the top 10 of billboard to have a buys when we arrived in an era where peaks don’t matter anymore. 

1 hour ago, MonsterNavy said:

all their streaming farms streams, top 10s and #1s and million sales are frauds wyd their soloists are not successful like... at all :lmao: 

 

idk how sugar got a hit tour but that will be one of the biggest mysteries of our time knowing how ugly and talentless + bad his solo discography is.

 

who would come to a show of a try hard wannabe cool rapper who can't even rap and has no flow? maybe dumb armybots methinks since they're desperate to see the uglies on tour and will just settle for the aunty looking talentless one :deadbanana2:

 

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It’s hilarious how you think Blinks don’t mass stream as much as Armys 

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3 hours ago, Mel. said:

We don’t like them, what about it?

are their numbers not frontloaded? Especially their solo releases

 

we’re not talking about the group, this based solely on their solo efforts and it’s not gagging

If they are so frontloaded then why are BOTH Like Crazy and Left & Right outstreaming Flower on global spotify when its the newer song?

 

26 minutes ago, Get said:

None of BTS or Blackpink solo song are actual hits(other than Money maybe). No amount of mass streaming will change that. Jennie's Solo is a hit in Korea though.

ok??? Money has 746M streams and Left & Right has 644M streams, even if they aren't megasmashes they're definitely both hits. And regarding Like Crazy, I was just comparing it to Flower because according to blinks its some kind of smash but BTS solos are apparently flops. If Like Crazy is a flop then Jisoo and Rosé's solos are flops too :eli:

 

We also need to kill this "mass streaming" garbaj speak when spotify literally filters streams :ace: ya'll have worms for brains I swear

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1 hour ago, Get said:

When was the last time he did a dance challenge with another artist?

Never 

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16 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

You think taking an euphoria 2.0 flop show is better than featuring in the world most famous franchise :rip: 

she doesnt need her brand tainted by the mcdonalds of cinema. looking hot in a flop a24 film while absorbing The Weeknd's cosign >>> being a boring extra on Dr Strange

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The only real kpop hits are gangnam style, dynamite and cupid. the rest are mostly carried by kpop fans. GP doesn't know any bts or blackpink members, at least not yet. :deadbanana4:

 

49 minutes ago, Nein said:

Jisoo’s Flower is literally a viral hit in the real world. :ahh:

the world =/= south korea

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2 minutes ago, LuneMon said:

The only real kpop hits are gangnam style, dynamite and cupid. the rest are mostly carried by kpop fans. GP doesn't know any bts or blackpink members, at least not yet. :deadbanana4:

the way yall won't quit sneaking these uglies 

 

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KTRL don’t know the difference between a Hit and a Smash:priceless: There have literally been dozens of global Viral Kpop Hit songs since 2009. And it’s not just nostalgia talking, it’s literal fact. Ever since the first credited Viral international Single Gee by SNSD.  A single that actually was a Smash across mainland China, South East Asia, and Japan. Charting without Fandom influence internationally. The general public actually listen to it globally because it was a trend on YouTube and the first ever Kpop MV to have the most views at the time. There have obviously been others, but I’m using my fav cuz they jump started Hallyu beyond just Japan. Same with Gangnam style here in America in 2012💀there was no Psy Stan’s manipulating billboard to chart. The song was an actual Smash due to it trending globally. BTS & BlackPink have multiple hits and smashes. To say otherwise would just be a lie. But fans are kinda delusional thinking some of these hits are as big of smashes, or General public played/Known singles. Also people act like the US, Korea and Japan are the entire world😭 

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23 minutes ago, Taeyong said:

 

 

Still the best K-pop song of all time I fear

True. This is an actual Smash hit in Korea that is still known. Not everyone has that 

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1 hour ago, Nein said:

Jisoo’s Flower is literally a viral hit in the real world. :ahh:

In some places maybe and in other places maybe the pet challenge is viral but how many of those people know the full song or who sang it.

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Han held it together on MuCore today but he was still just standing there while everyone else was dancing to that Griddle song during the end credits

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1 hour ago, armink said:

If they are so frontloaded then why are BOTH Like Crazy and Left & Right outstreaming Flower on global spotify when its the newer song?

 

ok??? Money has 746M streams and Left & Right has 644M streams, even if they aren't megasmashes they're definitely both hits. And regarding Like Crazy, I was just comparing it to Flower because according to blinks its some kind of smash but BTS solos are apparently flops. If Like Crazy is a flop then Jisoo and Rosé's solos are flops too :eli:

 

We also need to kill this "mass streaming" garbaj speak when spotify literally filters streams :ace: ya'll have worms for brains I swear

It's not about the streams. I was basing it on how if you play a song to a random person on the street whether they'll recognise it or not, actual popularity. I think a lot more people will recognise Money than Left and Right. And why only Spotify, I don't get it. It may be the biggest music streaming platform in the world but it's users aren't even 10% of the world's population. It's mostly only used in certain markets and it's only representative of that. It doesn't give a proper gauge of how popular a song is worldwide. YouTube is still a lot bigger.

 

Mass streaming on Spotify still happens, how else do you think Stray Kids had 70 million streams last week. Those streams may not show on the Spotify charts but they're still counted for the song.

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48 minutes ago, LuneMon said:

The only real kpop hits are gangnam style, dynamite and cupid. the rest are mostly carried by kpop fans. GP doesn't know any bts or blackpink members, at least not yet. :deadbanana4:

 

the world =/= south korea

Yes because the world = america and europe according to atrlers :ahh:  

 

8 minutes ago, Get said:

In some places maybe and in other places maybe the pet challenge is viral but how many of those people know the full song or who sang it.

“some places maybe” yes is that not still a viral hit at least at all? :ahh: 

 

the downplaying narrative is insane.

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1 hour ago, armink said:

 

We also need to kill this "mass streaming" garbaj speak when spotify literally filters streams :ace: ya'll have worms for brains I swear

Last fm:

BTS:

1.4 mill listeners

1.74 bill scrobbles

 

Jimin:

289k Listeners

125 mill scrobbles

 

But yeah theres def no mass streaming happening

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nein said:

Jisoo’s Flower is literally a viral hit in the real world. :ahh:

sure

 

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43 minutes ago, Nein said:

Yes because the world = america and europe according to atrlers :ahh:  

 

“some places maybe” yes is that not still a viral hit at least at all? :ahh: 

 

the downplaying narrative is insane.

they can’t deal with the fact that the woman they deemed useless and irrelevant for years is having such great success and became one of the biggest female soloists in the history of kpoop :mandown:
 

they were so sure she would flop :fan:

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4 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Not everybody has a 15 Year Anniversary Song🤭 but the Queens of Kpop/Nations official Girl Group & Princess of Kpop do

 

ahh my faves :jonny6:

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flower tanked outside of asia what is this narrative :rip: it lasted two days on US spotify

 

Money was the closest they’ll get to a real hit and Yg fumbled that

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