fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Harrier]

3 hours ago, Flomik said:

aespa performed after COVID with no experience performing in front of an audience

Of course they wouldn't be as powerful as BP

This, and not only was it their first performance in front of a real crowd, it was also literally their first time ever singing live  They vastly exceeded my and most peoples expectations of them at the time.

 

Idek why they're being brought up it's not a fair comparison. Its is so petty. Aespa sang 5-6 songs in a quickly produced cute little set, BP had a massively produced main show set coming off a very successful world tour  

 

And for the record, Aespa still did a way better job than literally any other 4th gen group would do, especially in the vocal department

[Gaia]

Aespa’s biggest enemy is SM. Their songs and dances don’t really leave room open to be “free” and improvise on stage. Thus, everything seems robotic. 
 

BP excels because they always get very 1 step 2 step dances and YG has no issue with them not dancing during their parts and sort of just walking around. 

 

SM always wants the dances to be prioritized with little personality. This leads to boring performances (even for their better dancing groups for me - it’s all still boring)

 

I do think the vibe of BP allows them to have more charisma. It’s a cool image and something to be proud of. I feel like Aespa girls cringe when they get off stage and it leads to a lack of pride for the groups image resulting in less on stage charisma. 
 

If MHJ got what she wanted in SM and Aespa had NJ vibe/songs I think we’d see a completely different winter. I just don’t think she likes their sound and concepts

Edited April 16, 2023 by Gaia

[Adama]

53 minutes ago, Flomik said:

Among the girlgroups to perform at Coachella I think ITZY are the closest to Blackpink in terms of potential and stage presence

 

Their award show stages always EAT, their music is so FUN, and they often serve LIVE vocals and I believe they can make a great festival show

 

 

festivals are not end year awards shows. Even if Itzy are ofc amazing performers, just like most of the Kpop acts they barely interact with the crowd and just follow their choreographies. They are performing at Head in the cloud this summer so I guess we will see, what they can brings. 

From the new gen the only one who I saw hype and trying to connect with the public during a performance in universities festivals was Yunjin from LSRFM. 
 

45 minutes ago, Chemist said:

I am curious about how TXT and skz will do headlining Lollapalooza. GGs are definitely more GP friendly while BGs are more fanbase fueled

Their fanbases will probably be there so it will not look different than their concerts. 

Im lowkey mad that SK got to headline lollapalooza paris and not AYA or Damso 

[Adama]

11 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Aespa’s biggest enemy is SM. Their songs and dances don’t really leave room open to be “free” and improvise on stage. Thus, everything seems robotic. 
 

BP excels because they always get very 1 step 2 step dances and YG has no issue with them not dancing during their parts and sort of just walking around. 

 

SM always wants the dances to be prioritized with little personality. This leads to boring performances (even for their better dancing groups for me - it’s all still boring)

 

I do think the vibe of BP allows them to have more charisma. It’s a cool image and something to be proud of. I feel like Aespa girls cringe when they get off stage and it leads to a lack of pride for the groups image resulting in less on stage charisma. 
 

If MHJ got what she wanted in SM and Aespa had NJ vibe/songs I think we’d see a completely different winter. I just don’t think she likes their sound and concepts

Honestly it’s not only SM but mostly all the Kpop companies, especially JYP. 
 

What does Winter like ?

Edited April 16, 2023 by Adama

[Josh]

This should have been a fixed NCT unit

The 7th Sense unit had a group full of aces. 

[Vrx.]

1 hour ago, Flomik said:

Among the girlgroups to perform at Coachella I think ITZY are the closest to Blackpink in terms of potential and stage presence

 

Their award show stages always EAT, their music is so FUN, and they often serve LIVE vocals and I believe they can make a great festival show

 

 

ITZY are such good performers (the best of their Gen by far) but are burdened by their material 

[Companion]

OMGGG I am still watching the BP performance they are so good honestly only one in a lifetime group. They deserve all the succes. Also the uncensored Money lyrics wtff 

 

Drop some MONEYY. Mothaf**kin MONEYY 

[Josh]

2 minutes ago, Vrx. said:

ITZY are such good performers (the best of their Gen by far) but are burdened by their material 

If they would stick to quality songs like LOCO and Mafia stop giving us songs like Boys Like You a song that not even Kids Bop would cover they'd be top tier musically

[illia]

11 minutes ago, Adama said:

festivals are not end year awards shows. Even if Itzy are ofc amazing performers, just like most of the Kpop acts they barely interact with the crowd and just follow their choreographies. They are performing at Head in the cloud this summer so I guess we will see, what they can brings. 

From the new gen the only one who I saw hype and trying to connect with the public during a performance in universities festivals was Yunjin from LSRFM. 
 

Their fanbases will probably be there so it will not look different than their concerts. 

Im lowkey mad that SK got to headline lollapalooza paris and not AYA or Damso 

ITZY can hype up the crowd too. (at least Yeji)

 

 

I agree about LSRFM and particularly Yunjin. In fact, I love them even more than ITZY. BUT!

 

Although ITZY and LSRFM are very similar to each other since they both have a confident concept and both groups are dance-oriented, ITZY managed to prove themselves as capable live vocalists who are able to sing live despite their heavy choreos. LSRFM, on the other hand, have very few live stages, and that makes me slightly worried. No one will let them lipsync the full set at Coachella 

However, LSRFM are not even a year old and they have plenty of time to start shining just like aespa did, who started singing live only after ~1.5 years of their career. Time will tell. 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Flomik

[Companion]

6 minutes ago, Adama said:

From the new gen the only one who I saw hype and trying to connect with the public during a performance in universities festivals was Yunjin from LSRFM. 
 

I was thinking who might able to pull BP in coachella and only Yunjin came to my mind too. Her energy on the university stages was another level.

 

There is still some insecurities (?) or lack of confident most idol have when compared to the western acts. I dont know why but it is just a vibe most of them giving. I can only think about Blackpink, Hyolyn and Yunjin when it comes to western comparasion. But on the other hand not all kpop group need to serve an western confidence, a lot of them have enough skills to have very entertaining performances I can definetely see Itzy and Lesserafim could give a great festival shows.

[scheibe]

2 hours ago, Hazy said:

BP is seriously in a league of their own! I loved everything about that set and the girls, the mics were one, the star power was there, they didn’t rehash Born Pink Tour show too, which I really admire! 

 

people talking about IVE, NJ, LSRFM performing there - I’m sorry to burst your bubble but it’s not a 3-songs long set with either loud backing track or prerecorded „live” vocals - people don’t want to see only perfectly rehearsed inkigayo-ed stage, there are here to see the performers, you need to have it to stand on that stage, the star quality… those 4th gen groups need a lot of work to get there, we are saw how it ended with aespa last year 

 

there is possibly no other group in kpop right now that is ready for that stage 

PREACH

[Zack]

26 minutes ago, Harrier said:

This, and not only was it their first performance in front of a real crowd, it was also literally their first time ever singing live  They vastly exceeded my and most peoples expectations of them at the time.

 

Idek why they're being brought up it's not a fair comparison. Its is so petty. Aespa sang 5-6 songs in a quickly produced cute little set, BP had a massively produced main show set coming off a very successful world tour  

 

And for the record, Aespa still did a way better job than literally any other 4th gen group would do, especially in the vocal department

All of this. Plus gatekeeping a music festival is giving major loser energy.

 

Both aespa and BP's sets were great in their own way. Like you said, aespa surprised everyone vocally, especially as they sang live even with heavy/demanding choreography (such as Black Mamba). They really rose to the occasion.

 

[Xalric]

1 hour ago, Chemist said:

I am curious about how TXT and skz will do headlining Lollapalooza. GGs are definitely more GP friendly while BGs are more fanbase fueled

In therms of large crowd Boy Groups usually do better than Girl Groups. A few GG are actually doing better which is why when they do they are A++ Tier (unless you are Dreamcatcher). 

[illia]

9 minutes ago, Vrx. said:

ITZY are such good performers (the best of their Gen by far) but are burdened by their material 

Taste is subjective but we CAN'T deny that all their music pre-Sneakers is MADE for summer fun festivals 

[elevate]

4 minutes ago, Flomik said:

ITZY can hype up the crowd too. (at least Yeji)

 

 

I agree about LSRFM and particularly Yunjin. In fact, I love them even more than LSRFM. BUT!

 

Although ITZY and LSRFM are very similar to each other since they both have a confident concept and both groups are dance-oriented, ITZY managed to prove themselves as capable live vocalists who are able to sing live despite their heavy choreos. LSRFM, on the other hand, have very few live stages, and that makes me slightly worried. No one will let them lipsync the full set at Coachella 

However, LSRFM are not even a year old and they have plenty of time to start shining just like aespa did, who started singing live only after ~1.5 years of their career. Time will tell. 

 

Yeji is the type of girl who would have signed up to every extracurricular there was in school / college and still somehow managed to outshine everyone else in them. 

[Mitsuki]

3 hours ago, discreetinside said:

I think SKZ and TXT are capable to headlining. Both group are schedule to headlining Lollapalooza on July and August.

 

 

I'm sure Stray Kids will do great as Lollapalooza's headliners. They have the stage presence, charisma AND perfect songs for festivals. 

 

I hope they pick well the songs. 

[TheCal]

just watched the whole BP coachella performance  

 

they are truly legendary queens

Edited April 16, 2023 by TheCal

[PoisonedIvy]

4 minutes ago, TheCal said:

just watched the whole BP coachella performance  

 

Is it on YouTube? I’m working from home and wanted to watch it a little later this morning  

[Companion]

1 minute ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Is it on YouTube? I’m working from home and wanted to watch it a little later this morning  

You can watch Day 2 Replay live streams on Youtube and skip to the BP performance.

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Companion said:

You can watch Day 2 Replay live streams on Youtube and skip to the BP performance.

Ok thank you, perfect I will do that in a couple of hours when I’m free to start!!

[hétérosexuelle]

1 hour ago, Antunes said:

she’s not a Rosalia collaborator but she was 

Who planted that rumor

 

Tbh Rosalia wishes she was Isabelle but it’s not giving anymore 

 

 

[Post Malone]

I love Rose but this thing about her solo performance made me cackle, she's not even familiar with the lyrics of her solo TITLE TRACK that she's sworn she poured her whole heart into etc and SCAMMED a writing credit for  in the chorus of OTG she's singing "get high" 2x when one of them is "get right" (she did this on both choruses so it's no error she's just unfamiliar with the lyrics) and it's SENDING ME 

[illia]

Help even some of our faves were tuning in

 

 

[WeFoundWill]

 

The servitude  

[WeFoundWill]

56 minutes ago, Harrier said:

This, and not only was it their first performance in front of a real crowd, it was also literally their first time ever singing live  They vastly exceeded my and most peoples expectations of them at the time.

 

Idek why they're being brought up it's not a fair comparison. Its is so petty. Aespa sang 5-6 songs in a quickly produced cute little set, BP had a massively produced main show set coming off a very successful world tour  

 

And for the record, Aespa still did a way better job than literally any other 4th gen group would do, especially in the vocal department

the last part of this paragraph. you dont even believe that