ImsoLOUD Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Blackout2006 said: Why? One is a white singer with a rehashed pop album, teen fanbase and Tik Tok-viral lyrics while the other one is a WOC with a much more experimental record who has chosen to not promote it at all, as of now. Tells you all that you have to know, ya know? /end thread.
Planet Mars Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 RENAISSANCE threads don't make sense at this point because Beyoncé is so absolutely checked out this era. I mean she couldn't care less at this point. People bringing Taylor's race into play look a whole fool because Beyoncé is literally one of the most successful women in the history of the UK Charts, more so than Taylor Mrs. Carter doesn't care anymore. She's over it.
Kingdom Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Popboi. said: You don’t want to play the lyrics game She is COMMENTATING...Literally taken front the BLACK BALLROOM culture era. That is how it is supposed to be sound. But you might be uncultured and unaware so glad i can help.
Blackout2006 Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: It had 4 songs in TTH, very good playlisting, good Tiktok support and radio push . Basically the only things that matter in the streaming era... playlisting, Tiktok and radio. What else did it suppose to have other than visuals? If Renaissance didn't have any promo, neither did Midnights by your logic. Okay so, Ren had: Playlisting TTH Tik Tok support apparently Radio One Vogue photoshoot What Midnights had: A direct announcement of her new album when she won an MTV award A Tik Tok series to reveal song titles Greater Tik Tok virality- "It's me, hi! I'm the problem, it's me" A feature with Lana Del Rey- an artist with a huge Gen Z following Two interviews- Jimmy Fallon, Graham Horton Radio appearances- iHeartRadio, Sirius Two music videos TTH Amazon Prime Videos- Thursday Night with Football Various versions of the same album on vinyl and CD format . Btw I'm not insinuating that Taylor's manner of promotion is a problem here. In fact, I'd love it if my faves were half as active as Taylor when it comes to their own era rollouts. It's just weird to see u guys always berating about Renaissance when both the eras are so different on terms of promotion, a crucial factor in getting more sales. Nobody is genuinely surprised to see Midnights outdo Renaissance in the charts 33 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Midnights is 14th most acclaimed album of the year and Anti-Hero is 3rd most acclaimed song of the year. More than some artists' most acclaimed project of their careers. Unless this is the Artistofthedecade formula for measuring greater percentages, I don't see that as the case as Bey's most acclaimed effort- Lemonade has a 92% metacritic and 90% albumoftheyear rating while Midnights has a 85% metacritic and 81% Albumoftheyear album. Oh and on what basis is Anti-Hero the third most acclaimed song of this year? Can't remember a list that accumulates the overall ratings for singles, since most critics don't give a numeric value for that. Edited December 17, 2022 by Blackout2006
Blackout2006 Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kingdom said: She is COMMENTATING...Literally taken front the BLACK BALLROOM culture era. That is how it is supposed to be sound. But you might be uncultured and unaware so glad i can help. Of course, they wouldn't know that. Look at who they are defending with their whole heart in this thread
FunCoric Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 beyonce doesnt give a **** about success why should we?
WildHeart Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: A direct announcement of her new album when she won an MTV award Two interviews- Jimmy Fallon Radio appearances- iHeartRadio, Sirius Amazon Prime Videos- Thursday Night with Football All of these are promo for the US so i don't know what do these have to do with Midnights outselling Renaissance 4x in the UK already 28 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: Greater Tik Tok virality- "It's me, hi! I'm the problem, it's me" A feature with Lana Del Rey- an artist with a huge Gen Z following Various versions of the same album on vinyl and CD format Cuff it had viral dance trend, Taylor gave Lana her biggest 2020s hit and Beyonce had four limited edition deluxe boxed set editions of the album containing a T-shirt and a CD. 28 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: It's just weird to see u guys always berating about Renaissance when both the eras are so different on terms of promotion, a crucial factor in getting more sales. Nobody is genuinely surprised to see Midnights outdo Renaissance in the charts UK sales as of last week Midnights - 371,200 Renaissance - 106,800 Only weird thing is that you are trying to find excuses for that type of difference. Renaissance could have the biggest promo in the history and it still couldn't come close. Mind you 1989 and Folklore, albums that didn't have any promo this year moved more units. Nothing is crucial when it comes to 300k difference, just stop 28 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: Oh and on what basis is Anti-Hero the third most acclaimed year? Can't remember a list that accumulates the overall ratings for singles, since most critics don't give a numeric value for that. You are welcome The Best Songs of 2022 Aggregate - Album of the Year Edited December 17, 2022 by Artistofthedecade
Khal Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, By the Water said: No way y’all are arguing about quality with a Britney Spears fan OT: Taylor has the most valuable catalog in the world, that’s why
My Tears Ricochet Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, By the Water said: No way y’all are arguing about quality with a Britney Spears fan
wastedpotential Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: All of these are promo for the US so i don't know what do these have to do with Midnights outselling Renaissance 4x in the UK already Cuff it had viral dance trend, Taylor gave Lana her biggest 2020s hit and Beyonce had four limited edition deluxe boxed set editions of the album containing a T-shirt and a CD. UK sales as of last week Midnights - 371,200 Renaissance - 106,800 Only weird thing is that you are trying to find excuses for that type of difference. Renaissance could have the biggest promo in the history and it still couldn't come close. Mind you 1989 and Folklore, albums that didn't have any promo this year moved more units. Nothing is crucial when it comes to 300k difference, just stop You are welcome The Best Songs of 2022 Aggregate - Album of the Year This consistent evisceration nnnnn
byzantium Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 4 hours ago, wastedpotential said: Taylor has just been more successful there recently. That doesn't take away from Beyonce's success, and unprovoked attacks like this don't help anyone. If you want to go after someone, pick the Monsters or the Navy, not the Hive who have been friendly lately All of this.
Blackout2006 Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: All of these are promo for the US so i don't know what do these have to do with Midnights outselling Renaissance 4x in the UK already ...The only point over there that you highlighted there in which I can see that being the case is the one in respect to her radio appearances. Anyone can see Jimmy Fallon's show..Graham Norton is literally a British show...There is a UK base for Amazon Prime...The announcement spurred global reactions, so none of these just affected the US. They were all done in the gist of global attention because anyone can view any of these 20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Cuff it had viral dance trend Okay so Cuff It was more viral on Tik Tok, a platform that carries songs towards becoming greater hits, and Anti-Hero was clearly outperforming Cuff It on the charts. Don't you think if Beyonce gave it a music video and more push, it couldn't have been as big as Anti-Hero, if not a bigger hit? Which again takes us to my earliest point- Lack of promotion 20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Beyonce had four limited edition deluxe boxed set editions of the album containing a T-shirt and a CD. Ain't nobody gonna buy that If Taylor had that though... 20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Renaissance could have the biggest promo in the history and it still couldn't come close. Okay so say if Midnights and Renaissance were switched on their tactics of promotion. Would Midnights still be more successful than Renaissance in this case? 20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: ou are welcome The Best Songs of 2022 Aggregate - Album of the Year Thx. So then again, a Renaissance song is still above Anti-Hero. The department of critical acclaim is much in Beyonce's favour Edited December 17, 2022 by Blackout2006
Scott Borchetta Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, By the Water said: No way y’all are arguing about quality with a Britney Spears fan
WildHeart Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: don't you think if Beyonce gave it a music video and more push, it couldn't have been as big as Anti-Hero, if not a bigger hit? No i don't think that for obvious reasons. One of them debuted with 17M and other one debuted with less than 5M for a reason. A music video was not going to make it Anti-Hero type of hit. 50 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: Ain't nobody gonna buy that If Taylor had that though... So the problem is not promo but demand 50 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: Okay so say if Midnights and Renaissance were switched on their tactics of promotion. Would Midnights still have be greater than Renaissance in this case? Yes it would still perform better. I don't even know why you are seriously asking that A MTV announcement, Lana collab and few talk shows were not going to make Renaissance debut with 200k in the UK and 1.5M in the US or lack of them were not going to make Midnights debut with 30k in the UK and 300k in the US. Be serious. Edited December 17, 2022 by Artistofthedecade
americanshameless Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Kingdom said: You spelt MIDnights wrong. Now that is a trash album with lyrics like "karma is a cat sitting on my lap" TF the YTest of mediocrities
byzantium Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 Why is that one Britney Stan so obsessed? Like what do they gain in their life?
lonnie Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 5 hours ago, wastedpotential said: Taylor has just been more successful there recently. That doesn't take away from Beyonce's success, and unprovoked attacks like this don't help anyone. If you want to go after someone, pick the Monsters or the Navy, not the Hive who have been friendly lately Thank you for confirming that y'all purposefully antagonize others and make plans for your targets. Not that we didn't already know, but good for y'all being honest about it.
Rican Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, byzantium said: Why is that one Britney Stan so obsessed? Like what do they gain in their life? Taylor Swift has surpassed the career of Britney Spears so that Britney stan is clinging onto Beyoncé for dear life which is odd because Taylor Swift has also surpassed the career of Beyoncé.
byzantium Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, Rican said: Taylor Swift has surpassed the career of Britney Spears so that Britney stan is clinging onto Beyoncé for dear life which is odd because Taylor Swift has also surpassed the career of Beyoncé. But like who cares? Another woman being successful does not take away from Britney in any regard. I really do not understand this mentality sometimes.
byzantium Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, lonnie said: Thank you for confirming that y'all purposefully antagonize others and make plans for your targets. Not that we didn't already know, but good for y'all being honest about it. What is your goal with this post. Literally every fanbase has people that antagonize others on ATRL. Members of the Navy for example are among the worst particularly to swifties on this site. Is there any way to read your comment other than as an effort to antagonize other people and another fanbase?
Rican Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, byzantium said: But like who cares? Another woman being successful does not take away from Britney in any regard. I really do not understand this mentality sometimes. @Blackout2006please explain your obsession to @byzantium on why your so obsessed in belittling Taylor to make Beyonce seem superior?
wastedpotential Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, lonnie said: Thank you for confirming that y'all purposefully antagonize others and make plans for your targets. Not that we didn't already know, but good for y'all being honest about it. I just know Rihanna harvests Navy tears for the Fenty Skin moisturisers You can cry about it all you want, but the Navy has been highly antagonistic since Lift Me Up collapsed on streaming 2 days in, so sue me for trying to direct Swiftie drags to places where they're deserved
byzantium Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, Rican said: @Blackout2006please explain your obsession to @byzantium on why your so obsessed in belittling Taylor to make Beyonce seem superior? Haha. Thank you. I appreciate your assistance in helping me gain a greater understanding of the world
Clauss Posted December 17, 2022 Posted December 17, 2022 @Blackout2006 Ok, seems fair that Midnights had more promo than Renaissance, that explains why 1 album is above. Now why there are other SIX as well?
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