Moth 2 The Flame Posted July 31 Posted July 31 1 minute ago, KKKIMO92 said: It looks like she's going to have a hard time to surpass 100M. There are 33 shows of the second leg, right? She needs more shows, maybe some in Australia? We're gonna have to wait til end of August for Billboard to report the July 2024 US boxscores, as she also did 17 shows during that month (not counting the Essence Music Festival show). If it's around $17.5M-$18M gross again, then she still manages an average of over $1M per show and I'm guessing the total reported gross would be around $89M-$90M. Hopefully the 11 European shows she's booked will help push the gross to $100M by then, and any more newly announced international shows would extend it. 1
KKKIMO92 Posted July 31 Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Moth 2 The Flame said: We're gonna have to wait til end of August for Billboard to report the July 2024 US boxscores, as she also did 17 shows during that month (not counting the Essence Music Festival show). If it's around $17.5M-$18M gross again, then she still manages an average of over $1M per show and I'm guessing the total reported gross would be around $89M-$90M. Hopefully the 11 European shows she's booked will help push the gross to $100M by then, and any more newly announced international shows would extend it. I hope Janet and her team realize she can't doing these forever and launch a new album with one or two bangers to promote the tour. We all saw how BDT did poor numbers due to her only promising a new album but not actually delivering it. We are experiencing a new kind of Jancellation on new music…. 2 1
Moth 2 The Flame Posted July 31 Posted July 31 I don't mind waiting for the new music after the supposed Cinq label mess she was dealing with, but I am getting impatient on waiting to see if there will be any Australian dates announced for the tour as the 2nd US leg is now over with Europe dates now fast approaching. 1
exfactor003 Posted July 31 Posted July 31 (edited) courtesy of Touring Data! Brooklyn, N.Y. July 10, 2024 $1,584,624 13,067 / 13,067 (100%) Fort Worth, Texas July 25, 2024 $1,190,042 11,427 / 11,959 (96%) Edited July 31 by exfactor003 3
kishi Posted August 1 Posted August 1 5 hours ago, Moth 2 The Flame said: I don't mind waiting for the new music after the supposed Cinq label mess she was dealing with, but I am getting impatient on waiting to see if there will be any Australian dates announced for the tour as the 2nd US leg is now over with Europe dates now fast approaching. Australia and New Zealand will hopefully be announced for sometime between November and March! Fingers crossed.
Mke1979 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 I skipped this tour because I have seen Janet many times live and for the lack of any new original songs. She is great, but I agree. It's time for new music. A new single. She is such an innovator and trend setter, I know she has it in her still for new music.
robbyds Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) So we have the following numbers from Billboard and Pollstar: -$50.9M for 37 shows from leg 1 (she had 41 shows, including 2 festivals + 2 casino shows) -$2.39M for the 3 hawaii shows -$18.3M for 17 shows for 2nd leg (all from June) -$4.06M for 3 shows in July Total: $75.65M We still don't have numbers for: -2 casino shows from Leg 1 -3 sold out shows in Japan -1 show in the Philippines -1 show in the Bahamas (this wasn't a festival right? It was a concert series so do we include it?) -14 shows for July (leg 2) I think with these 21 unreported shows she could be closing in at the $100M mark. With the 11 European shows she will definitely exceed it. Then of course there are other markets she hasn't visited like latin america, other countries in asia and europe, australia/NZ and even more dates in south africa and canada. Edited August 2 by robbyds 2
KKKIMO92 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 7 hours ago, robbyds said: So we have the following numbers from Billboard and Pollstar: -$50.9M for 37 shows from leg 1 (she had 41 shows, 2 festivals + 2 casino shows) -$2.39M for the 3 hawaii shows -$18.3M for 17 shows for 2nd leg (all from June) -$4.06M for 3 shows in July Total: $75.65M We still don't have numbers for: -2 casino shows from Leg 1 -3 sold out shows in Japan -1 show in the Philippines -1 show in the Bahamas (this wasn't a festival right? It was a concert series so do we include it?) -15 shows for July (leg 2) I think with these 22 unreported shows she could be closing in at the $100M mark. With the 11 European shows she will definitely exceed it. Then of course there are other markets she hasn't visited like latin america, other countries in asia and europe, australia/NZ and even more dates in south africa and canada. I'd rather she saves these dates for the next tour which will probably happening next year or two. Japan shows definitely grossed more than 3M in combination, their prices are always high and in 2017 she grossed more than 2M with two shows. European shows also look promising to close 1M per night. Maybe just five to ten more shows to make the ferry on top. Only Australia dates seem doable but we don't know. 1
robbyds Posted August 13 Posted August 13 On 8/1/2024 at 6:12 AM, exfactor003 said: courtesy of Touring Data! Brooklyn, N.Y. July 10, 2024 $1,584,624 13,067 / 13,067 (100%) Fort Worth, Texas July 25, 2024 $1,190,042 11,427 / 11,959 (96%) If u check pollstar, I believe there is a new reported show for July.
exfactor003 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 hours ago, robbyds said: If u check pollstar, I believe there is a new reported show for July. Phoenix has been, just waiting on Touring Data to share it. 1
robbyds Posted August 15 Posted August 15 On 8/13/2024 at 10:39 PM, exfactor003 said: Phoenix has been, just waiting on Touring Data to share it. There are now 5 shows reported for July. We so far only know grosses for Brooklyn, Fort Worth and Newark.
exfactor003 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 2 hours ago, robbyds said: There are now 5 shows reported for July. We so far only know grosses for Brooklyn, Fort Worth and Newark. the other is Oklahoma City. 1
exfactor003 Posted August 16 Posted August 16 (edited) thank you to Touring Data for these figures. Thousand Palms, Calif. June 4, 2024 $1,006,580 9,245 / 9,245 (100%) Inglewood, Calif. June 8, 2024 $2,027,678 13,340 / 13,340 (100%) Anaheim, Calif. June 9, 2024 $1,359,308 11,671 / 11,671 (100%) Sacramento, Calif. June 11, 2024 $1,194,877 12,138 / 12,138 (100%) Denver, Colo. June 16, 2024 $1,387,106 11,799 / 11,799 (100%) Chicago, Ill. June 19, 2024 $1,920,519 13,190 / 13,190 (100%) Cleveland, Ohio June 25, 2024 $1,019,308 9,688 / 9,688 (100%) Philadelphia, Pa. June 26, 2024 $1,291,299 11,282 / 11,282 (100%) Washington, D.C. July 12, 2024 $1,672,448 13,582 / 13,582 (100%) Orlando, Fla. July 20, 2024 $1,046,580 10,790 / 10,790 (100%) Atlanta, Ga. July 21, 2024 $1,423,782 11,178 / 11,178 (100%) Oklahoma City, Okla. July 26, 2024 $786,220 9,698 / 10,764 (90%) Phoenix, Ariz. July 30, 2024 $1,110,606 9,941 / 9,941 (100%) @robbyds Edited August 16 by exfactor003 2
robbyds Posted August 16 Posted August 16 39 minutes ago, exfactor003 said: thank you to Touring Data for these figures. Hide contents Thousand Palms, Calif. June 4, 2024 $1,006,580 9,245 / 9,245 (100%) Inglewood, Calif. June 8, 2024 $2,027,678 13,340 / 13,340 (100%) Anaheim, Calif. June 9, 2024 $1,359,308 11,671 / 11,671 (100%) Sacramento, Calif. June 11, 2024 $1,194,877 12,138 / 12,138 (100%) Denver, Colo. June 16, 2024 $1,387,106 11,799 / 11,799 (100%) Chicago, Ill. June 19, 2024 $1,920,519 13,190 / 13,190 (100%) Cleveland, Ohio June 25, 2024 $1,019,308 9,688 / 9,688 (100%) Philadelphia, Pa. June 26, 2024 $1,291,299 11,282 / 11,282 (100%) Washington, D.C. July 12, 2024 $1,672,448 13,582 / 13,582 (100%) Orlando, Fla. July 20, 2024 $1,046,580 10,790 / 10,790 (100%) Atlanta, Ga. July 21, 2024 $1,423,782 11,178 / 11,178 (100%) Oklahoma City, Okla. July 26, 2024 $786,220 9,698 / 10,764 (90%) Phoenix, Ariz. July 30, 2024 $1,110,606 9,941 / 9,941 (100%) @robbyds Thank you for sharing them as well
Moth 2 The Flame Posted August 16 Posted August 16 2 hours ago, exfactor003 said: thank you to Touring Data for these figures. Reveal hidden contents Thousand Palms, Calif. June 4, 2024 $1,006,580 9,245 / 9,245 (100%) Inglewood, Calif. June 8, 2024 $2,027,678 13,340 / 13,340 (100%) Anaheim, Calif. June 9, 2024 $1,359,308 11,671 / 11,671 (100%) Sacramento, Calif. June 11, 2024 $1,194,877 12,138 / 12,138 (100%) Denver, Colo. June 16, 2024 $1,387,106 11,799 / 11,799 (100%) Chicago, Ill. June 19, 2024 $1,920,519 13,190 / 13,190 (100%) Cleveland, Ohio June 25, 2024 $1,019,308 9,688 / 9,688 (100%) Philadelphia, Pa. June 26, 2024 $1,291,299 11,282 / 11,282 (100%) Washington, D.C. July 12, 2024 $1,672,448 13,582 / 13,582 (100%) Orlando, Fla. July 20, 2024 $1,046,580 10,790 / 10,790 (100%) Atlanta, Ga. July 21, 2024 $1,423,782 11,178 / 11,178 (100%) Oklahoma City, Okla. July 26, 2024 $786,220 9,698 / 10,764 (90%) Phoenix, Ariz. July 30, 2024 $1,110,606 9,941 / 9,941 (100%) Inglewood, Calif. June 8, 2024 $2,027,678 13,340 / 13,340 (100%) This is probably a new record for Janet as her highest arena grossing date as the previous ones were the two New York City MSG dates last year at $1.9M each. 2
robbyds Posted August 16 Posted August 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Moth 2 The Flame said: Inglewood, Calif. June 8, 2024 $2,027,678 13,340 / 13,340 (100%) This is probably a new record for Janet as her highest arena grossing date as the previous ones were the two New York City MSG dates last year at $1.9M each. She grossed $2.8M at the hollywood bowl last year and $2.2 at Tinley Park. Technically amphitheaters and not indoor arenas. Edited August 16 by robbyds
C_Colstead Posted August 17 Posted August 17 So, I've just noticed it's not been posted here, but the Glasgow show was rescheduled a few weeks ago, to October 13 (probably to stop her doing five consecutive shows in a row). 1
°ColdFire° Posted August 17 Posted August 17 Is anyone going to the concert in Amsterdam on October 10?
holyground13 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 On 8/17/2024 at 11:20 AM, °ColdFire° said: Is anyone going to the concert in Amsterdam on October 10? Yes! Standing 😁
exfactor003 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 (edited) courtesy of Touring Data, some brand new data as well as some updated figures (not sure why this occurs, but it isn't the first time that Pollstar has updated box scores of theirs after the fact). Chula Vista, Calif. June 6, 2024 $633,327 11,963 / 17,928 (67%) San Francisco, Calif. June 12, 2024 $1,670,007 11,898 / 11,898 (100%) West Valley City, Utah June 14, 2024 $871,474 13,811 / 20,000 (69%) Saint Paul, Minn. June 18, 2024 $617,622 9,080 / 9,547 (95%) Maryland Heights, Mo. June 21, 2024 $654,700 14,302 / 18,710 (76%) Cincinnati, Ohio June 22, 2024 $770,200 10,471 / 20,306 (52%) Indianapolis, Ind. June 23, 2024 $706,188 6,651 / 10,866 (61%) (updated) Cleveland, Ohio June 25, 2024 $1,019,308 9,688 / 11,324 (86%) (updated) Philadelphia, Pa. June 26, 2024 $1,291,299 11,282 / 12,269 (92%) (updated) Boston, Mass. June 28, 2024 $1,154,772 9,708 / 11,536 (84%) Hartford, Conn. June 29, 2024 $660,949 10,258 / 24,000 (43%) (updated) Newark, N.J. July 9, 2024 $1,299,161 11,674 / 11,674 (100%) (updated) Brooklyn, N.Y. July 10, 2024 $1,605,403 13,067 / 13,067 (100%) (updated) Fort Worth Texas July 25, 2024 $1,185,307 10,781 / 10,781 (100%) (updated) Oklahoma City, Okla. July 26, 2024 $843,117 10,269 / 11,335 (91%) (updated) Phoenix, Ariz. July 30, 2024 $1,021,118 10,456 / 10,456 (100%) please credit Touring Data if you intend to share this info elsewhere, as we would not have the individual scores if it were not for him. Edited August 21 by exfactor003 2 1
robbyds Posted August 23 Posted August 23 On 8/22/2024 at 3:56 AM, exfactor003 said: courtesy of Touring Data, some brand new data as well as some updated figures (not sure why this occurs, but it isn't the first time that Pollstar has updated box scores of theirs after the fact). Hide contents Chula Vista, Calif. June 6, 2024 $633,327 11,963 / 17,928 (67%) San Francisco, Calif. June 12, 2024 $1,670,007 11,898 / 11,898 (100%) West Valley City, Utah June 14, 2024 $871,474 13,811 / 20,000 (69%) Saint Paul, Minn. June 18, 2024 $617,622 9,080 / 9,547 (95%) Maryland Heights, Mo. June 21, 2024 $654,700 14,302 / 18,710 (76%) Cincinnati, Ohio June 22, 2024 $770,200 10,471 / 20,306 (52%) Indianapolis, Ind. June 23, 2024 $706,188 6,651 / 10,866 (61%) (updated) Cleveland, Ohio June 25, 2024 $1,019,308 9,688 / 11,324 (86%) (updated) Philadelphia, Pa. June 26, 2024 $1,291,299 11,282 / 12,269 (92%) (updated) Boston, Mass. June 28, 2024 $1,154,772 9,708 / 11,536 (84%) Hartford, Conn. June 29, 2024 $660,949 10,258 / 24,000 (43%) (updated) Newark, N.J. July 9, 2024 $1,299,161 11,674 / 11,674 (100%) (updated) Brooklyn, N.Y. July 10, 2024 $1,605,403 13,067 / 13,067 (100%) (updated) Fort Worth Texas July 25, 2024 $1,185,307 10,781 / 10,781 (100%) (updated) Oklahoma City, Okla. July 26, 2024 $843,117 10,269 / 11,335 (91%) (updated) Phoenix, Ariz. July 30, 2024 $1,021,118 10,456 / 10,456 (100%) please credit Touring Data if you intend to share this info elsewhere, as we would not have the individual scores if it were not for him. 16/17 shows for JULY is now available on Pollstar (so hopefully Touring data will publish all soon) We only lack 1 show and we'd have the complete gross for Leg 2 of the tour.
KKKIMO92 Posted August 23 Posted August 23 5 hours ago, robbyds said: 16/17 shows for JULY is now available on Pollstar (so hopefully Touring data will publish all soon) We only lack 1 show and we'd have the complete gross for Leg 2 of the tour. How much did the second leg of NA so far? We are only missing one date, right?
robbyds Posted August 23 Posted August 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, KKKIMO92 said: How much did the second leg of NA so far? We are only missing one date, right? 18.3M for the 17 june shows per billboard (all shows accounted for) But touring data has provided grosses for 8 July shows totalling to 10M. So far, we know that leg 2 had made 28M+ if we combine both. Edited August 23 by robbyds
°ColdFire° Posted August 24 Posted August 24 On 8/21/2024 at 9:51 PM, holyground13 said: Yes! Standing 😁 Standing as well! Send me a message, I tried, but it doesn't allow me for some reason. 😢 1
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