Slap Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Christina is known for consistently long gaps between albums, some could argue this allowed her to hone her craft more, others have argued that it got in the way of her commercial success because of the long waits. Do you think it made a difference? If so, where would Christina’s career be commercially if she had released more frequently? Edited December 6, 2022 by Slap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightDragonsWithMe Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I mean maybe she would've been slightly more successful if she released Bionic before Gaga took over but her careee would've followed the same path regardless imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreampop Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 She would have more top 10 singles I'd say. It all depends on how she promoted it and what would be going on with her image at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Her legacy wouldn’t be so question as it is now. Don’t get me wrong her career is impressive but it’s also underwhelming. If she released more she would’ve been bigger than she was honesty. With each massive break you seen a decline with sales & interest. I’m sorry Christina just isn’t interesting enough to care after a long break especially when her peers was feeding us often. It’s odd though RCA had a pop star who could sing in Spanish and English yet still went with the long unnecessary breaks I’m shock her label let her do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtjjproducer Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 The christmas album while I love it was a mistake. She should’ve released another English album in late 2000 early 2001. That could’ve been slightly more mature and not made stripped seem so jarring. also her delaying bionic and releasing a greatest hits album was her other big mistake. Those two corrections and she would have more sales and have a cemented legacy that wouldn’t be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Power love said: Her legacy wouldn’t be so question as it is now. Don’t get me wrong her career is impressive but it’s also underwhelming. If she released more she would’ve been bigger than she was honesty. With each massive break you seen a decline with sales & interest. I’m sorry Christina just isn’t interesting enough to care after a long break especially when her peers was feeding us often. It’s odd though RCA had a pop star who could sing in Spanish and English yet still went with the long unnecessary breaks I’m shock her label let her do that. I wonder if she was trying to emulate the former musical greats like Janet who had long breaks in the 80’s and 90’s. I just don’t think it worked from the 2000’s onwards at all, especially by the time Bionic came around she could’ve had at the very least two or three more eras under her belt. Bionic wasn’t even bad, but if it’s your only studio album in four years that’s a lot of hype and wait to live up to and I think it set her up for failure. 1 minute ago, Mtjjproducer said: also her delaying bionic and releasing a greatest hits album was her other big mistake. Those two corrections and she would have more sales and have a cemented legacy that wouldn’t be questioned. I didn’t realize she delayed Bionic, yikes. That Greatest Hits compilation was not a good idea, it wasted all the hype and got dragged to hell and back in the stan world. I thought B2B was a quality era in terms of visuals and aesthetics, so it seems a lil uninspired to do a greatest hits and make people wait years for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLikeHoney Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) No. Christina had many hit singles (which back then meant she was heard more than than people who had big albums but we're not played in the radio) and even a Christmas album between her first and second album. Other pop girls had no choice but to quickly offer a second and even a third album before Christina offered her second album because radio wouldn't play their poor quality singles. Those other pop princesses didn't have a choice, they had to release albums more quickly to stay relevant to casual listeners. Edited December 6, 2022 by JustLikeHoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreampop Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 52 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: No. Christina had many hit singles (which back then meant she was heard more than than people who had big albums but we're not played in the radio) and even a Christmas album between her first and second album. Other pop girls had no choice but to quickly offer a second and even a third album before Christina offered her second album because radio wouldn't play their poor quality singles. Those other pop princesses didn't have a choice, they had to release albums more quickly to stay relevant to casual listeners. so back to basics "hits" carried her all the way until 2010 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLikeHoney Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, dreampop said: so back to basics "hits" carried her all the way until 2010 ?? She had a top ten off her greatest hits album. She also gave birth to her first child in that time. Jesus y'all are too much. B2B ANOM - 2006 Hurt -2006 CM -2007 GH KGB 2008 So she only really spent 2 years off the radio. Edited December 7, 2022 by JustLikeHoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: She had a top ten off her greatest hits album. She also gave birth to her first child in that time. Jesus y'all are too much. B2B ANOM - 2006 Hurt -2006 CM -2007 GH KGB 2008 So she only really spent 2 years off the radio. This thread isn’t an attack on her it’s asking what would have happened IF she had released more often. If you don’t think she needed to that’s fine but it’s a hypothetical question. I think she would’ve had better long term commercial success if she did, but whether that was possible for her is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunCoric Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: She had a top ten off her greatest hits album. She also gave birth to her first child in that time. Jesus y'all are too much. B2B ANOM - 2006 Hurt -2006 CM -2007 GH KGB 2008 So she only really spent 2 years off the radio. kgb was a huge flop, i dont care about its cute lil peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLikeHoney Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, FunCoric said: kgb was a huge flop, i dont care about its cute lil peak 1 minute ago, FunCoric said: kgb was a huge flop, i dont care about its cute lil peak Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevate Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Not much. I think we'd have more songs like Feel This Moment or Moves Like Jagger. I don't like either, lol. She's one of those artists that will peak at certain times and then fade back down. People recognise talent and the quality IS there, even with the inconsistent albums. I actually think she chose the right career path, given how she's faring in terms of health / success / etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLikeHoney Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Slap said: This thread isn’t an attack on her it’s asking what would have happened IF she had released more often. If you don’t think she needed to that’s fine but it’s a hypothetical question. I think she would’ve had better long term commercial success if she did, but whether that was possible for her is another question. I was responding to someone who attacked my initial response. I think Bionic did terrible because of some made up Perez induced feud. IMO. It's true The Fame was a better album. I loved that album but Bionic should not have flopped as hard as it did. It had some cute bops and great ballads. It was mostly because weird online rumor sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnerCity Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Nothing differently would've happened, she released singles in between album eras so it's not like she was MIA from the music scene, the reason of her downfall was the rise of newer pop stars she couldn't compete with and the lack of a strong fanbase that would support her through the years. Madonna, Janet, Mariah, Britney, Beyoncé, Gaga and more recently Taylor they all succeed in building their brand and establishing a long lasting relationship with her fanbase whereas Christina didn't, it doesn't have to do with how often she released music or not, it's a matter of how she doesn't have a fanbase and we started seeing that after B2B. Her sales and tour power decreased massively after B2B and she simply let it happen. That was her fault, the moment she knew things were getting rocky for her she should've come back stronger, better material, focus on whatever made her distinctive from the rest and she lost a lot of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Not a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmusicisdead Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 she really should have released a full album in 2008 when literally every female pop star released one. she still had industry support back then and would have cemented her fanbase going into the 2010's. but her son was just born then and I can blame her for prioritizing her personal life over her career even at the cost of her, well, career. same thing happened in 2013, when she had a couple of Top 10 collabs and got skinty. perfect time to release new music but she got knocked up instead. i mean i'm glad she seems very happy in her personal life now but i do wish we have more music than we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naval23 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 The GP would've gotten tired of her sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JustLikeHoney said: I was responding to someone who attacked my initial response. I think Bionic did terrible because of some made up Perez induced feud. IMO. It's true The Fame was a better album. I loved that album but Bionic should not have flopped as hard as it did. It had some cute bops and great ballads. It was mostly because weird online rumor sites. Fair enough. Agreed, it was a lot of bad circumstances but I think she overestimated the quality of Bionic when talking about it which made people more critical, and people acted like it was total **** when it was actually just a bit too long and had some great songs on it. I think had it been shorter and not seen as a comeback album it would not have been considered such a flop. Elastic Love still bops. 1 hour ago, elevate said: Not much. I think we'd have more songs like Feel This Moment or Moves Like Jagger. I don't like either, lol. She's one of those artists that will peak at certain times and then fade back down. People recognise talent and the quality IS there, even with the inconsistent albums. I actually think she chose the right career path, given how she's faring in terms of health / success / etc. It hurts me that her biggest songs are my least favorite and imo don’t even feel like Xtina songs really. She has so much more to offer but that’s the same for lots of MPGs. Edited December 7, 2022 by Slap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trash Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, popmusicisdead said: she really should have released a full album in 2008 when literally every female pop star released one. she still had industry support back then and would have cemented her fanbase going into the 2010's. but her son was just born then and I can blame her for prioritizing her personal life over her career even at the cost of her, well, career. same thing happened in 2013, when she had a couple of Top 10 collabs and got skinty. perfect time to release new music but she got knocked up instead. i mean i'm glad she seems very happy in her personal life now but i do wish we have more music than we have now. She had just released Lotus in 2012, so i understand her taking a backseat during 2013 but she kept releasing collabs like Feel This Moment, Hoy Tengo Ganas De Ti and then Say Something. They did well, it's just that the public doesn't seem to care for her studio albums. Your Body was a nice bop but by the time Adele had taken over the music industry and the sound was shifting, had it been released a year prior maybe it could've helped. Just a Fool should've been her lead single as it did decently without much support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) anyway, the break is kind of a fan fiction moment. She had multiple singles out almost every year. And albums: 1999 Christina Aguilera 2000 Mi Reflejo 2000 My Kind of Christmas 2002 Stripped 2006 Back to Basics 2008 Keeps Getting Better 2010 Burlesque 2010 Bionic 2012 Lotus 9 albums (including 1 greatest hits with new music) in 13 years. as far as singles: "Reflection"[115] 1998 —[h] — — — — — — — — — Mulan and Christina Aguilera "Genie in a Bottle" 1999 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 RIAA: 2× Platinum[38] ARIA: Platinum[117] BPI: Platinum[40] BVMI: Platinum[53] IFPI AUT: Gold[54] IFPI SWI: Gold[41] MC: Platinum[42] RMNZ: Platinum[118] SNEP: Gold[119] Christina Aguilera "The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire)"[120][121] 18 — — 22 — — — — — — My Kind of Christmas "What a Girl Wants" 1 5 22 5 18 7 9 1 17 3 RIAA: Platinum[38] ARIA: Gold[122] BPI: Silver[40] RMNZ: Gold[123] Christina Aguilera "I Turn to You" 2000 3 40 — 10 65 17 40 11 30 19 "Come On Over Baby (All I Want Is You)" 1 9 35 14 27 9 6 2 21 8 RIAA: Platinum[38] ARIA: Platinum[122] BPI: Silver[40] RMNZ: Gold[124] "Ven Conmigo (Solamente Tú)"[125] — — — — — — — — — — Mi Reflejo "Pero Me Acuerdo de Ti"[126] — — — — — — — — — — "Nobody Wants to Be Lonely" (with Ricky Martin) 2001 13 8 13 6 5 12 3 1 2 4 ARIA: Gold[127] BPI: Silver[40] IFPI SWI: Gold[41] NVPI: Gold[43] Sound Loaded "Lady Marmalade" (with Lil' Kim, Mýa and Pink) 1 1 3 17 1 1 2 1 1 1 RIAA: Platinum[38] ARIA: 2× Platinum[127] BPI: 2× Platinum[40] IFPI AUT: Gold[54] IFPI NOR: Platinum[128] IFPI SWI: Gold[41] NVPI: Platinum[43] RMNZ: Platinum[129] SNEP: Gold[130] Moulin Rouge! "Falsas Esperanzas" — — — — — — — "Dirrty" (featuring Redman) 2002 48 4 5 5 4 1 2 20 3 1 RIAA: Platinum[38] ARIA: Platinum[131] BPI: Platinum[40] IFPI NOR: Platinum[128] IFPI SWI: Gold[41] MC: 2x Platinum [42] NVPI: Gold[43] RMNZ: Gold[132] Stripped "Beautiful" 2 1 5 1 4 1 2 1 7 1 RIAA: 2× Platinum[38] ARIA: Platinum[133] BPI: Platinum[40] FIMI: Gold[134] MC: 2x Platinum [42] RMNZ: Gold[135] "Fighter" 2003 20 5 12 3 13 4 5 14 11 3 RIAA: 2× Platinum[38] ARIA: Gold[133] BPI: Gold[40] MC: Platinum [42] "Can't Hold Us Down" (featuring Lil' Kim) 12 5 13 — 9 5 10 2 11 6 ARIA: Gold[133] BPI: Silver[40] "The Voice Within" 33 8 7 10 13 4 6 16 3 9 "Car Wash" (featuring Missy Elliott) 2004 63 2 11 — 6 5 3 2 5 4 ARIA: Gold[136] RMNZ: Gold[135] Shark Tale "Ain't No Other Man" 2006 6 6 7 4 5 3 11 5 5 2 RIAA: 2× Platinum[38] ARIA: Gold[137] BPI: Gold[40] MC: Platinum[42] Back to Basics "Hurt" 19 9 2 28 2 6 2 — 1 11 RIAA: Platinum[38] ARIA: Gold[138] BPI: Silver[40] BVMI: Gold[53] IFPI AUT: Gold[54] IFPI SWI: Gold[41] MC: Gold[42] "Candyman" 2007 25 2 14 9 11 12 12 2 11 17 RIAA: Platinum[38] ARIA: Platinum[138] BPI: Gold[40] MC: Gold[42] RMNZ: Gold[135] "Slow Down Baby" — 21 — — — — — — — — "Oh Mother" — — 23 — 18 — —[j] — 79 — "Keeps Gettin' Better" 2008 7 26 15 4 14 14 —[k] 36 21 14 Keeps Gettin' Better: A Decade of Hits "Not Myself Tonight" 2010 23 22 26 11 24 — 18 32 42 12 ARIA: Gold[139] Bionic "Woohoo" (featuring Nicki Minaj) 79 — — 46 — — — — — 148 "You Lost Me" —[l] — — — — — — — — 153 "I Hate Boys"[m] — —[n] — — — — — — — — "Express" —[o] — — — — — — — 54 75 Burlesque "Show Me How You Burlesque" 70 29 — 92 89 — — 8 26 — "Your Body" 2012 34 59 19 10 29 46 —[p] 34 22 16 Lotus Edited December 7, 2022 by suburbannature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueberries Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Nothing. She was born to be a fad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclefloprry Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Nothing. She was born to be a fad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Nothing. She was born to be a fad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Nothing.. She has huge success with move like jagger and say something. I truly think she just didn't release the right music. She needed hits but released fillers/Mediocre music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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