Taylena Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 There's quite a number of ATRLers who also say they're "tired of woke" and wokeness in general. I wonder if it's the same for them...
Reginald Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) LOL the way these people detest American freedom with every cell in their body. They HATE America. And tbh their words and actions have reinvigorated my passion to stand against all religions, and all Gods. Down with the Christian Fascists. Down with the church. We don't need them. Edited December 4, 2022 by Reginald
Skyfish Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 Progressives invented the term, not the right. Where do you think the right got it from?
Skyfish Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 It's AAVE and ya'll are saying the Right came up with it? Make it make sense.
anti-bitch Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Skyfish said: It's AAVE and ya'll are saying the Right came up with it? Make it make sense. Nobody said the right came up with it, but they stole it and twisted the meaning. Now anything that goes against the direct interest of straight white evangelicals is considered "woke." Edited December 4, 2022 by anti-bitch
perfect blue Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 The coining of this term has singlehandedly set us back a decade or two…
byzantium Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 These America hating losers need to be purged by some drag queens.
Scars Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Skyfish said: It's AAVE and ya'll are saying the Right came up with it? Make it make sense. Why so purposefully dense? Yes, saying "stay woke!" as a way to endorse discussions related to systemetic oppression first started among black american circles, but right-wingers began to use the term as a derogatory word to belittle, mock and silence people uplifting these exact discussions and pretty much any progressive stance. People clearly use it as a catch-all dog whistle against marginalized social groups now. Events mentioned by OP just confirmed it.
Communion Posted December 4, 2022 Author Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Skyfish said: Where do you think the right got it from? Inventing is not the same as defining; we know what progressives have meant for a decade now of what the term "woke" means. In their attacks on "wokeness", the right have argued that they meant something else. This moment, as now part of legal record, shows that the right mean otherwise when saying "woke". They meant they are indeed trying to attack what progressives believe - that systemic racism is real.
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 This binary system of “right” and “left” is so disgusting. Step out of the internet and talk to actual human beings.
Communion Posted December 5, 2022 Author Posted December 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: This binary system of “right” and “left” is so disgusting He's..... an elected politician part of a right-wing party. What do you suggest we call him, if not identified by his membership of a right-wing political party. Quickly.
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Communion said: He's..... an elected politician part of a right-wing party. What do you suggest we call him, if not identified by his membership of a right-wing political party. Quickly. By his name? Was that quick enough for you?
Communion Posted December 5, 2022 Author Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, family.guy123 said: By his name? But it's not "[name] expresses personal opinion". It's a member of a political party, acting on behalf of that political party as an organization and law-making body, to defend and implement legislation that they believe is in line with the mainline views of their party, that identifies with the label of "the right". Quickly, what right-wing political organizations in America acknowledge the fact that there is systemic racism?
Archetype Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: By his name? Was that quick enough for you? DeSantis' opinions and statements are heralded by the GOP, thus it makes complete sense to generalize. If his remarks were fringe or controversial within his party, then you would have somewhat of a point.
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Communion said: But it's not "[name] expresses personal opinion". It's a member of a political party, acting on behalf of that political party as an organization and law-making body, to defend and implement legislation that they believe is in line with the mainline views of their party, that identifies with the label of "the right". Quickly, what right-wing political organizations in America acknowledge the fact that there is systemic racism? Where in the link in your OP does your title appear? That’s what I’m asking.
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Archetype said: DeSantis' opinions and statements are heralded by the GOP, thus it makes complete sense to generalize. If his remarks were fringe or controversial within his party, then you would have somewhat of a point. Great. Where are the statements from the title of this thread located? That’s all I’d like to know.
Communion Posted December 5, 2022 Author Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Great. Where are the statements from the title of this thread located? That’s all I’d like to know. In the article. Literally. Sis, you're usually an insidious right-winger who tries to hide their prejudices but you're coming undone at the seams with this poor defense of DeSantis. You also still haven't answered why what right-wing orgs believe in systemic racism.
Communion Posted December 5, 2022 Author Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Quote Jean-Jacques Cabou, Warren’s attorney, noted DeSantis referred to Warren in his announcement of the suspension as a “woke ideologue” DeSantis suspended a county attorney in Florida, and in his speech about why he suspended him, cited the reason for the suspension was the attorney's "woke ideology". When asked by the court to define what DeSantis meant by woke, DeSantis' team offered the following: Quote "Slang term for activism … progressive activism” and a general belief in systemic injustices in the country. - Taryn Fenske, DeSantis’ Communications Director Quote “It would be the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” - Ryan Newman, DeSantis’ General Counsel So why are you confused about people recognizing it is an example of right-wingerism for a right-wing governor, representing a right-wing state, and his right-wing aides defending his right-wing policies, positions and executive decisions within his powers as governors to act against, and I quote, "woke ideology", which, again I quote, to them "is the belief there is systemic injustice in America", @family.guy123? Edited December 5, 2022 by Communion
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Communion said: In the article. Literally. Sis, you're usually an insidious right-winger who tries to hide their prejudices but you're coming undone at the seams with this poor defense of DeSantis. You also still haven't answered why what right-wing orgs believe in systemic racism. Show me the quotes from the article that mention “homophobic”, “racism” and “officially”. I haven’t answered that question because it’s irrelevant to what I’m taking about. I’m not defending desantis, I don’t even know who that is. All I’m asking is to be transparent and authentic in your thread making. If I’ve missed something in the article, please point it out to me and I’ll gladly recognize my mistake. But from what I’ve seen, this thread title is your own perspective. Isn’t there a blog section here for that kind of bs? The title of the article should be the title of the thread. That’s literally all I’m saying. Nobody cares about the opinion of atrl user “communion”. I’ve literally never tried to hide anything on here.
family.guy123 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Show me the quotes from the article that mention “homophobic”, “racism” and “officially”. I haven’t answered that question because it’s irrelevant to what I’m taking about. I’m not defending desantis, I don’t even know who that is. All I’m asking is to be transparent and authentic in your thread making. If I’ve missed something in the article, please point it out to me and I’ll gladly recognize my mistake. But from what I’ve seen, this thread title is your own perspective. Isn’t there a blog section here for that kind of bs? The title of the article should be the title of the thread. That’s literally all I’m saying. Nobody cares about the opinion of atrl user “communion”. I’ve literally never tried to hide anything on here. Right winger =\= desantis supporter
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