celeb news Kim Petras on Dr. Luke: "I have nothing to be ashamed of” + Kesha responds

[undermyskin]

Just now, Miichael said:

Fair enough if you have a problem with her working with Dr Luke, but I do find it interesting that she's the only artist that really gets backlash for it. It's weird how the trans girl is the one being vilified while people are very quick to make excuses for the other artists.

enough yall. in this same very thread that you came in and posted this message, several other users have posted receipts of other artists getting dragged for working with Luke. Kim is not the only one. Kim, however, is the only one that has publicly denounced Kesha's allegations time and time again

[liquiddiamonds]

I just want to add that the other girls people are asking why dont get as much dragged as kim petras have strong audiences formed by other publics that are not LGBTQIA+. Kim’s audience is basically our community, so of course she will feel the criticism stronger. Not denying some transphobia might be in the middle, but I think it’s more about demographics. It doesn’t help that she mines the same audience that grew up on Kesha

 

Mariah is a legend, most of her known material is not by Luke. Why would she get dragged? She just hopped in a remix that sampled her old song. 
 

 

[Alfred]

2 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Fair enough if you have a problem with her working with Dr Luke, but I do find it interesting that she's the only artist that really gets backlash for it. It's weird how the trans girl is the one being vilified while people are very quick to make excuses for the other artists.

Watch out. The OKHs/ Doja & Kesha stans will come after you, berating and mocking you for noticing the obvious connection between the disproportionate hate Kim gets online and being a trans woman. They’ll say we’re “pulling the trans card” to deflect from the obvious observation 

[Both Sides Now]

10 minutes ago, Communion said:

I mean, her argument would only hold weight if Dr. Luke was doing more production work now than at his peak.

 

But the reality is that he largely hasn't.

 

Year	#1s	Top 10s	Top 20s	Total Top 40+	Produced	Artist Diversity
2004	0	2	0	2	4	3
2005	0	0	0	0	8	5
2006	0	2	1	3	14	8
2007	1	0	1	2	16	7
2008	1	2	0	3	12	6
2009	3	2	0	5	17	11
2010	5	8	1	15	28	14
2011	1	5	1	8	21	10
2012	1	2	1	7	29	10
2013	4	0	2	8	25	12
2014	0	1	4	8	26	12
2015	0	1	0	1	28	9
2016	0	0	0	0	4	4
2017	0	0	0	0	12	7
2018	0	0	0	0	20	9
2019	0	0	0	0	35	3
2020	1	1	1	3	13	11
2021	1	1	2	4	16	10
2022	1	0	0	2	23	13

 

In the last 7 years, he's had only 10 Top 40 songs. Half of them are from Doja (who again was signed to him before Kesha came forward) or Juice Wrld, who he started producing for after the artist in question died. 

2020: Say So, Tap In, Wishing Well
2021: Best Friend, Need To Know, You Right, Big Energy
2022: Super Freaky Girl, Blick Blick

 

Meaning the rest of his hits have been due to Latto, Saweetie (who no longer works with him) or Nicki Minaj, who is largely criticized, but only outshadowed in those criticisms for also marrying a rapist herself.

 

He has expanded working with nobodies (largely because he's not the one doing the producing anymore), but his success now is still limited to pre-2009 levels of success he once had.

 

Bringing the receipts as always  

[cockatoo]

 

The backtracking already 

[Ferret]

7 minutes ago, DojaCat said:

People pointed out the difference between Doja and Kim situation in every single thread and you still don't get the difference talk about cognitive dissonance pls. Well whatever you sniffing is melting your lil brain.

Doja is helping dr Luke getting richer million times more than Kim. Dont be delusional 

[Guest]

Desperate for attention because her single made 0 noise? She's being cannibalized on twitter rn, she's actually over. 

[gettsleazy]

13 minutes ago, Alfred said:

Haha well the way you obsessively listed out the 5 “abusers” Kim has worked with is certainly a troubling sign of scheming against Kim Petras 

 

sdhjsdfkhljksdfhfjks they are LOSING IT

[liquiddiamonds]

Just now, cockatoo said:

 

The backtracking already 

Not the hacked excuse ????

[undermyskin]

1 minute ago, Ferret said:

Doja is helping dr Luke getting richer million times more than Kim. Dont be delusional 

Was Doja supposed to use her crystal ball to for-see the allegations Kesha was going to make before she signed her contract? dOnT bE DElusiONal

[SmittenCake]

57 minutes ago, Flomik said:

 

[gettsleazy]

Not this being framed as a psyop against Kim her reply to popbase

[Ferret]

Just now, undermyskin said:

Was Doja supposed to use her crystal ball to for-see the allegations Kesha was going to make before she signed her contract? dOnT bE DElusiONal

Nothing changes the fact that she’s helping a rapist to be more powerful and rich. Your point?

[cockatoo]

6 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Fair enough if you have a problem with her working with Dr Luke, but I do find it interesting that she's the only artist that really gets backlash for it. It's weird how the trans girl is the one being vilified while people are very quick to make excuses for the other artists.

Saweetie was actually asked about it in a couple of interviews and there was a fair amount of backlash afterwards considering she wasn't even signed to him. Latto got her fair share too. But the difference is it was literally only a couple of songs whereas Kim has had whole projects executive produced by this man, plus he's not the only problematic person she's worked with.

[josesuxx]

5 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Fair enough if you have a problem with her working with Dr Luke, but I do find it interesting that she's the only artist that really gets backlash for it. It's weird how the trans girl is the one being vilified while people are very quick to make excuses for the other artists.

This is simply not true. The backlash is just more evident cause she's only known by LGBT audiences (= the only people that care about Dr Luke being a rapist), the rest of the artists that work with Dr Luke have a much broader or different audience and the criticism is clearly less noticeable.   

[Alfred]

6 minutes ago, undermyskin said:

enough yall. in this same very thread that you came in and posted this message, several other users have posted receipts of other artists getting dragged for working with Luke. Kim is not the only one. Kim, however, is the only one that has publicly denounced Kesha's allegations time and time again

Ok. User Undermyskin has finally entered the thread and said “enough.” It’s time to stop y’all !!!

[ZIVERT]

"Doja signed before the allegations" "Doja hates Dr. Luke" "Doja doesn't have a choice" Okay and her music is still making Dr. Luke money, do the justifications make y'all feel better? Spotify and Apple Music are not going to filter your stream based on if it's morally conscious or not, a stream is a stream  

[undermyskin]

1 minute ago, Alfred said:

Ok. User Undermyskin has finally entered the thread and said “enough.” It’s time to stop y’all !!!

this!

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, cockatoo said:

 

The backtracking already 

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[Both Sides Now]

5 minutes ago, cockatoo said:

 

The backtracking already 

[undermyskin]

1 minute ago, ZIVERT said:

"Doja signed before the allegations" "Doja hates Dr. Luke" "Doja doesn't have a choice" Okay and her music is still making Dr. Luke money, do the justifications make y'all feel better? Spotify and Apple Music are not going to filter your stream based on if it's morally conscious or not, a stream is a stream  

babe, I don't listen to anything with this man's name on it. I'm just saying logically, that's why she don't get dragged! I don't listen to any of these hoes tho!

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Ferret said:

Doja is helping dr Luke getting richer million times more than Kim. Dont be delusional 

No one is denying that, Doja has no control over that. But Doja made it obvious she is against him and she signed that contract before Kesha allegations even came out. I mean he had no credits on Amala (her best album stream it) until she started blowing up with Moooo suddenly 

[Ferret]

2 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

"Doja signed before the allegations" "Doja hates Dr. Luke" "Doja doesn't have a choice" Okay and her music is still making Dr. Luke money, do the justifications make y'all feel better? Spotify and Apple Music are not going to filter your stream based on if it's morally conscious or not, a stream is a stream  

This. Who cares if she sígned before or afterwards. She’s still making him rich. It’s like you WANT to live in a contradiction. Doja fans should be the first time Shut up.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Ferret

[ZIVERT]

2 minutes ago, undermyskin said:

babe, I don't listen to anything with this man's name on it. I'm just saying logically, that's why she don't get dragged! I don't listen to any of these hoes tho!

It’s just that the argument is so hypocritical. “Don’t listen to Kim Petras, she’s trash and her music is unethically made” like the other Luke projects aren’t all unethically made too. The money is still going to the same place, whether the artist likes him or not - they’re still working with him.

[Gyal]

she spilled