charts discussion HDD: Renaissance hits 900M US streams and 1,044M Sales in 4th Months

[QueenBeyoncé]

14 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

Chromatica had merch and tour bundles too, it’s not comparable.

Her stans always fail

[QueenBeyoncé]

4 minutes ago, TeemoR said:

this tbh, it aged horribly...

Aged right to 8 Grammy nods stay mad 

[Armani?]

18 minutes ago, Fnooky said:

Renaissance collected 900m US streams in four months. 

 

Chromatica took 20 months to cross the 1 billion mark in the US.

 

https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1495176437535490053?

 

Let’s not set Miss Gaga up 

[Lovett]

Why on earth would Monsters run in here to bring up Chromatica when it was curb stomped by Renaissance in every metric?  The absolute masochism of it all.

[Hot Volcano]

26 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

Re: pure sales, didn’t Chromatica have bundles? 
 

And that’s Spotify, how much have other services increased/decreased? CDs? Vinyl? Digital sales? 

 

6 minutes ago, Fnooky said:

Regarding pure sales, HDD estimated Chromatica at 325K pure copies in the US in 2020.

 

 

Renaissance is currently at 309K pure sales with 1 month left to track until HDD’s final year-end report.

 

Chromatica benefitted from bundles unlike Renaissance and had a two months headstart as it was released in late May compared to Renaissance which was released in late July.

 

@Hot Volcano

Tour bundles?

 

Literally 3 shows. What now, let me guess, they contributed to 100k pure sales?

 

[BeyColombia]

1 minute ago, Hot Volcano said:

 

Tour bundles?

 

Literally 3 shows. What now, let me guess, they contributed to 100k pure sales?

 

Girl have some self respect and just stop

 

Chromatica was a major flop… Renaissance is the second most successful Female album released this year and top 5 overall 

[Hot Volcano]

Just now, BeyColombia said:

Girl have some self respect and just stop

 

Chromatica was a major flop… Renaissance is the second most successful Female album released this year and top 5 overall 

A major flop and the smash album of your fave has yet to surpass it in every single aspect?

[BeyColombia]

3 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

A major flop and the smash album of your fave has yet to surpass it in every single aspect?

In every single Aspect ? 
do you read everything that has been posted here ? 

[family.guy123]

11 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

 

Tour bundles?

 

Literally 3 shows. What now, let me guess, they contributed to 100k pure sales?

 

No I thought merch bundles or something before the rule change? I don’t know, I don’t pay that close attention 

[SweetTalker]

2 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

Huh? Chromatica is at ~420k pure sales in the US, Rennasaince at ~305k.

Whew the tour bundles really paid off. 
 

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What have been the weekly units for the past 4 weeks??? It was at 782k 1 month ago according to HDD

 

https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=333295&title=TOP-50-ALBUMS-YTD

[Rotunda]

1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said:

 

Almost 4 years old? Huh? Check your math

 

90% of pure sales are within the first 2 months.

 

Rennasaince is currently doing 3k weekly, so still a long way to reach Chromatica's numbers

 

 

How come so many of you are having issues with basic calculations

 

 

 

 

 

 

Spotify and streaming grew a lot in 2 years.

 

 

 

From 2020 to 2021, active monthly users went up 24%, let's say the same thing happened from 2021 to 2022. When we sum everything up, Rennasaince pulled similiar numbers to Chromatica

 

 

If Spotify’s growth explains the streaming difference, why are Billboard 200 numbers continuing to decline? If your theory applied to actual music consumption, we’d see artists posting BB200 numbers that are much larger than they were just a couple of years ago. Instead, we see declines.
 

And why did Chromatica spend comparatively less time on the BB 200 Top 10?

Edited November 26, 2022 by Rotunda

[Beyondslay]

My Queen slaying 25 years into her career all while completely ignoring this era after it's release. 

[Shelter]

The excuse Spotify is bigger now, why is Chromatica not getting better streams now?  it’s barely getting 800k WW on Spotify. 

[Flanders]

So yeah… Bey is STILL bigger than Gaga

 

wow wow wow

[Tripthelight]

4 minutes ago, Flanders said:

So yeah… Bey is STILL bigger than Gaga

 

wow wow wow

[Mikeymoonshine]

Why are people in here trying to get Gaga dragged? 

 

Congrats Bey and without even lifting a finger. 

 

I'm mad at her to be honest if she'd done a proper rollout, released the videos, promoted and actually pushed her singles she would have done even better. 

[Alexz]

4 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

the fact midnights did this in 2 hours or something 

Well Taylor is ten times bigger than Beyoncé in music.

[Popboi.]

2 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

 

Tour bundles?

 

Literally 3 shows. What now, let me guess, they contributed to 100k pure sales?

 

Yes, 3 dates, but those are still about 130k people. Considering other albums with tour bundles is very safe to say they were about 40k, add merch bundles (basically everything on her webstore at the time, and items on preorder as well), easily 100k of Chromatica’s pure sales could be a bundle of either type.

[family.guy123]

4 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

the fact midnights did this in 2 hours or something 

Not really. Midnights had a lengthy pre-order period 

[Embustera]

Y’all are so messy. And I meant with y’all the monsters and that Italian weirdo. Is it really hard to stay out of a Beyoncé thread?

[Bonicap]

Only a Lady Gaga stan can be so brave to attack Rennaisance using Chromatica's numbers 

[Lovett]

9 hours ago, Alexz said:

Well Taylor is ten times bigger than Beyoncé in music.

She's ten times bigger than everyone in music, but it figures you'd try and hide behind her than your own fave.

[BnPac]

Congrats Bey. A masterpiece.

I hope it goes 3P in the long run. 

[GreatestLoveofAll]

1 million units already- this album has become such a hit I really didnt think she would serve this level of consistency especially with the nonexistent promo.

[Lose My Breath]

A smash

 

25 years in the music biz and still scanning platinum with hits