charts discussion Most-streamed pre-00s solo artists on Spotify

[suburbannature]

 

Only one female in the top 7.

[wish]

Ok

[Auburn]

hi suburbannature

[byzantium]

Shakira and Eminem did not make it?  

[Isaiah]

I hate to be “this person” but do we know where Mariah would rank among females without Christmas? 

[Isaiah]

19 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Shakira and Eminem did not make it?  

I don’t think Eminem blew up until 2000 so maybe they’re ignoring him since he became famous months before the century ended so he’s way more akin to the 00s acts. 

[CottageHore]

5 minutes ago, Isaiah said:

I hate to be “this person” but do we know where Mariah would rank among females without Christmas? 

Analogies don’t matter. The reality is that Mariah owns Christmas, that’s how it is, so the numbers are what they are. That doesn’t take away from the impressiveness of it all

[coolblue]

those Mariah Carey numbers are bad.. I thought she'd be above 10billion+ by now the way her music slays during Christmas season

[Bey_Rihstan]

41 minutes ago, Isaiah said:

I hate to be “this person” but do we know where Mariah would rank among females without Christmas? 

who cares? she's more streamed than any other pre-00's woman. The christmas music contributes to her catalog 

 

 

 

[coolblue]

1 minute ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

who cares? she's more streamed than any other pre-00's woman. The christmas music contributes to her catalog 

 

 

 

but it doesn't give the real picture.. Celine can still sell out stadiums and arenas across the world without resorting to christmas music. So this is not an accurate metric for who the most relevant 80s/90s diva is.

[Nightingale]

16 minutes ago, coolblue said:

but it doesn't give the real picture.. Celine can still sell out stadiums and arenas across the world without resorting to christmas music. So this is not an accurate metric for who the most relevant 80s/90s diva is.

But she did resort to Christmas music (and so did Whitney). Celine even has a Christmas #1 song that isn’t remembered now. Their Christmas music just didn’t take off like Mariah’s. And it does give an an accurate picture of Mariah’s success since every year everyone associates Mariah with Christmas now. Plus it’s such a myth that Mariah doesn’t get streamed outside of Christmas since she has good streams year round

[Yuanyu]

1 hour ago, Isaiah said:

I don’t think Eminem blew up until 2000 so maybe they’re ignoring him since he became famous months before the century ended so he’s way more akin to the 00s acts. 

Eminem debuted in 1996, proof of this is that tomorrow he will be inducted to the rock and roll hall of Fame.

 

It's funny, here and on Twitter when people want to refer to Taylor they talk about the most successful artists that debuted this century because Eminem is the most successful artist of this century, and now that we talk about artists who debuted before 00 we are not going to take him into account either because it is not convenient, tremendous. 

 

[Isaiah]

1 hour ago, Nightingale said:

But she did resort to Christmas music (and so did Whitney). Celine even has a Christmas #1 song that isn’t remembered now. Their Christmas music just didn’t take off like Mariah’s. And it does give an an accurate picture of Mariah’s success since every year everyone associates Mariah with Christmas now. Plus it’s such a myth that Mariah doesn’t get streamed outside of Christmas since she has good streams year round

That’s wonderful for Mariah, but AIWFCIY is a once in a generation anamoly. I joined this site as a lamb so I’ll always love Mariah, but it’s disingenuous to pretend like including it with her catalogue is fair when comparing her to 90s divas bc it’s a passive Christmas tradition at this point  

[Bey_Rihstan]

1 hour ago, coolblue said:

but it doesn't give the real picture.. Celine can still sell out stadiums and arenas across the world without resorting to christmas music. So this is not an accurate metric for who the most relevant 80s/90s diva is.

The real picture of what? Mariah is more streamed than Celine. If the thread was about biggest touring acts ever, Celine would be there and Mariah wouldn’t. Some excel in fields others don’t. This really shouldn’t be news 

 

mariah is more streamed than Celine, Madonna, Janet and the like. Numerically speaking. Hell, Celine has a massive Christmas album herself. Would we remove it from her album sales tally?
 

Edited November 5, 2022 by Bey_Rihstan

[suburbannature]

2 hours ago, Isaiah said:

I hate to be “this person” but do we know where Mariah would rank among females without Christmas? 

Why would we discount her own music?

 

If only the other girls had Christmas music that took off. 

 

 

2 hours ago, coolblue said:

but it doesn't give the real picture.. Celine can still sell out stadiums and arenas across the world without resorting to christmas music. So this is not an accurate metric for who the most relevant 80s/90s diva is.

Babe, Celine has multiple Christmas albums with original music. The GP just wasn't here for it. 

 

Not to mention that Mariah has been out-streaming all of the other 80s/90s divas on global Spotify for the past month already anyway. She has consistently destroyed Celine/Whitney/Janet in recurrent streams Jan-Nov each year and recently overtook Madonna again. Across platforms and including Asian streaming she's far and away the most-streamed.

Edited November 5, 2022 by suburbannature

[FightDragonsWithMe]

 

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

Why would we discount her own music?

 

If only the other girls had Christmas music that took off. 

 

 

Babe, Celine has multiple Christmas albums with original music. The GP just wasn't here for it. 

 

Not to mention that Mariah has been out-streaming all of the other 80s/90s divas on global Spotify for the past month already anyway. 

Céline has exactly one Christmas Album 

 

And the Taylor Christmas song shade is funny when she has a Platinum selling Christmas EP that sells well yearly. 

[suburbannature]

4 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

 

Céline has exactly one Christmas Album 

 

And the Taylor Christmas song shade is funny when she has a Platinum selling Christmas EP that sells well yearly. 

Celine Dion has three Christmas albums. Two are French from the 80s (one of which containing original music) and one in English in the prime of her career that contains original music. 

 

Edited November 5, 2022 by suburbannature

[FightDragonsWithMe]

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

Celine Dion has three Christmas albums. Two are French from the 80s and one in English in the prime of her career that contains original music. 

 

I mean I guess you can count when Céline was local to Quebec 

[suburbannature]

Just now, FightDragonsWithMe said:

I mean I guess you can count when Céline was local to Quebec 

After she had two Canadian #1 songs, a French-certified song, and a Canadian platinum album

 

Many have tried for a Christmas legacy and longevity, and almost all have failed. 

 

[BnPac]

I'm surprised to not see Eminem, Shakira or B. 

 

2pac.

[Jynx]

No Madonna? What happened to the QOP, global, best selling female artist of all time and her 4 decades worth of streaming hits? 

 

Mariah, Eminem, Elton John. Legends with actual streaming hits. 

[EtherealCat]

shakira has 11 billion streams, why is she not included?

[stevyy]

1 hour ago, EtherealCat said:

shakira has 11 billion streams, why is she not included?

I believe they've only counted music released during the 20th century, bc Mariah's total presented there is also off. 

[Nightingale]

11 hours ago, Isaiah said:

That’s wonderful for Mariah, but AIWFCIY is a once in a generation anamoly. I joined this site as a lamb so I’ll always love Mariah, but it’s disingenuous to pretend like including it with her catalogue is fair when comparing her to 90s divas bc it’s a passive Christmas tradition at this point  

I'd understand that argument if she was Brenda Lee where no one knows her by name and like 90% of her streams came from one song. But everyone still associates  AIWFCIY with Mariah and it boosts her image. Even the GP knows the It's Time video and the "Mariah is defrosting" jokes and calls her the Queen of Christmas over Jesus.

 

And even if you take away the 1 billion streams from AIWFCIY she's still easily ahead of Madonna, Whitney, Celine, JLo