By the Water Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, WeFoundTrouble said: Why would they change their rules about consumers paying full price for an album? Are movie theaters suddenly going to stop counting gross for people who see films two or three times? they’re paying for the product, whether you like it or not. My God, you're slow, aren't you
PoisonedIvy Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 People mad at the “multiple formats” available for purchase are going to have a SEIZURE when her tour grosses north of half a billion dollars No ticket variants to blame THAT success on
RobynYoBank Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 We should multiply that vinyl sales by 3 since people paid $30 for each
fridayteenage Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Paranoid Android said: They would have to start putting a star on every album then. Harry for instance has 27 versions as per discogs. It’s not unusual for many artists to offer variants of an album, from multiple color vinyl editions to collectible CD packages and beyond. Swift herself has rolled out albums in a similar fashion in the past — she had four different Target-exclusive variants for Lover in 2015. In 2022, acts ranging from Red Hot Chili Peppers and Ozzy Osbourne to BLACKPINK and Madonna have all leaned in to the practice of offering multiple iterations of a physical album where usually the only difference is in packaging or the color of a vinyl LP. yes, every album should be asterisked. it'll make charts prettier. btw gets double asterisks for 99 cents though, which singlehandedly made billboad have to establish rules about minimum pricing.
BlueTimberwolf Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, WeFoundTrouble said: People mad at the “multiple formats” available for purchase are going to have a SEIZURE when her tour grosses north of half a billion dollars No ticket variants to blame THAT success on That makes it even worse. Amazing touring numbers, but she's still resorting to desperate "puzzle" gimmicks to artificially boost her sales. I knew there was some Kpop style trickery going on, and the fact that Billboard called it out by name is hilarious. Quote Some superfans may have also been enticed to purchase all four variants of the album on either CD or vinyl, as the back covers of the four albums fit together like a puzzle to display a clock face (a literal reference to Midnights!). Swift shared the news through her social media in mid-September, saying: “If you put all the back covers together, she’s a clock. It’s a clock… It makes a clock.” (Swift’s official webstore sells hardware to hold the four CDs or the four vinyl LPs together as a wall clock.)
PoisonedIvy Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, By the Water said: My God, you're slow, aren't you Well that was mean I thought you were agreeing with BlueTimberwolf sorry hon
PoisonedIvy Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: That makes it even worse. Amazing touring numbers, but she's still resorting to desperate "puzzle" gimmicks to artificially boost her sales. I knew there was some Kpop style trickery going on, and the fact that Billboard called it out by name is hilarious. You can have all the gimmicks you want as an artist but if you don’t have the demand to SELL then you won’t. That’s why no KPop artist is selling 1M in a week in the USA, let alone with FIVE different albums. Not sure what’s “trickery” about offering products and letting the consumers decide if they want to buy them. But I get it, you have nothing left to cling to. It must be a rough day for you. Keep grasping at straws, it’s entertaining as ****.
Bosque Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Has to be the biggest Vinyl debut of all time, right? Blockbuster first weeks weren't really a thing until the 80s, when CDs were taking over
Illuminati Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Not this being the biggest debut of her career
Hunter_13 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Are people really gonna use clean versions as a drag now? As if other acts with explicit albums don't have edited cds.
itsjem Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Bringing this back for the people who are still lamenting about "dIfFeRent VerSiONs!!!11!1!" we love seeing u seethe tho
simmnfierzig Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Hunter_13 said: Are people really gonna use clean versions as a drag now? As if other acts with explicit albums don't have edited cds. They listed the version with the 10 seconds talk That was released so the album was available on Apple Music before it was released
PoisonedIvy Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hunter_13 said: Are people really gonna use clean versions as a drag now? As if other acts with explicit albums don't have edited cds. They’re going to mass email Billboard begging them to change the rules so TS11 can only count the sales of EITHER the clean or explicit version, but NOT both.
Reiner Braun Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 She's going to dominate another decade Imagine being an OTH for 20 years
Hunter_13 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Just now, simmnfierzig said: They listed the version with the 10 seconds talk That was released so the album was available on Apple Music before it was released Yeah it's dumb that BB is calling that an itunes bonus track just because it got uploaded twice for that dumb voice message thing for AM. You'd think they'd know how that works but.
PoisonedIvy Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, itsjem said: Bringing this back for the people who are still lamenting about "dIfFeRent VerSiONs!!!11!1!" we love seeing u seethe tho Chemtrails having like 7 variants but doing 75K first week. No shade to Lana I love her but obviously the variants don’t equate to your success. Lana would not have only done 10K with one variant
Katy V.! Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said: People mad at the “multiple formats” available for purchase are going to have a SEIZURE when her tour grosses north of half a billion dollars No ticket variants to blame THAT success on I'm very curious about the tour, if she goes full Ed then the sky is the limit. Considering that she has a lot of material + the TVs coming, she could spend 2-3 years touring stadiums if she wishes .
Taylena Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: I knew there was some Kpop style trickery going on aespa had 7 versions for their Girls' album physicals in the US - cheap Digipack versions with a different cover for each 4 members + Kwangya version and Real World version - but they still debuted with 53k pure sales. I think clearly there's something more to that and it may be DEMAND.
hector.adriel Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: That makes it even worse. Amazing touring numbers, but she's still resorting to desperate "puzzle" gimmicks to artificially boost her sales. I knew there was some Kpop style trickery going on, and the fact that Billboard called it out by name is hilarious. Artificially boost her sales? It’s called having an actual sales strategy, not selling f*cking jockstraps on your site. Besides, multiple artists do this and don’t even get close to Taylor, this is what happens when you have DEMAND. She sold 1.6M copies first week, period. Stop embarrassing yourself
ChrisTheLoner Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Absolutely massive The music industry did THAT
slw84 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Reiner Braun said: She's going to dominate another decade Imagine being an OTH for 20 years I have a feeling Drake and Taylor are going to be the first to serve male and female artist (respectively) of the decade repeats. I don't see who's stopping them tbh. I get that many fanbases are annoyed but for those who are chart geeks this is a fun historic moment and when she clears the entire top 10 tomorrow it's going to be even better. Her team needs to not only set up the obvious Grammy performance but BBMAs milestone award, VMAs vanguard etc. to capitalize off of this era. The tour is going to break records regardless Edited October 30, 2022 by slw84
By the Water Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Biggest BB200 debuts per year: 2010: Speak Now 1M 2011: Born This Way* 1.1M 2012: Red 1.21M 2013: The 20/20 Experience 968k 2014: 1989 1.29M 2015: 25 3.4M 2016: Views 1M 2017: reputation 1.24M 2018: Scorpion 732k 2019: Lover 867k 2020: folklore 846k 2021: 30 839k 2022: Midnights 1.58M
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