JorgeM Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Axelios said: So all the numbers are just estimations? What's even the point of publishing that For Taylor yes, other artists have reported their shows. I guess Taylor get them clicks and selling the magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YR. Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 ME AND MY BOYFRIEND FINALLY GOT THE TICKETS JFDKSNJKDNDSFJKNDJKDFNDSNDND I'M GOING CRAZY VOU VER A LOIRINHA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tal_reputation Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) No way the avg. attendance is 54k. all the shows so far had at the very least 65k attendance. Edited June 26, 2023 by Tal_reputation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeM Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Axelios said: So all the numbers are just estimations? What's even the point of publishing that see how Taylor has 0 shows reported from the 22 eligible but other artists have reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie.Valdez Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Axelios said: So all the numbers are just estimations? What's even the point of publishing that MTE, We need sources for such claims if people are going to start throwing accusations just because the alleged numbers don’t fit their narrative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkLover1989 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Richie.Valdez said: MTE, We need sources for such claims if people are going to start throwing accusations just because the alleged numbers don’t fit their narrative It literally says there that 0/22 reported You are trying too much atp See the report and tell me yoh don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Reader Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, YR. said: ME AND MY BOYFRIEND FINALLY GOT THE TICKETS JFDKSNJKDNDSFJKNDJKDFNDSNDND I'M GOING CRAZY VOU VER A LOIRINHA omg congrats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeM Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Richie.Valdez said: MTE, We need sources for such claims if people are going to start throwing accusations just because the alleged numbers don’t fit their narrative Are you blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, JorgeM said: see how Taylor has 0 shows reported from the 22 eligible but other artists have reported There's also no way Beyonce average price in Europe is 83$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylena Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 $300m from 22 shows is still crazy $13.6m average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkLover1989 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Taylena said: $300m from 22 shows is still crazy $13.6m average Yeah gross is fine But we wanted attendance Taylor team still hiding numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, YR. said: ME AND MY BOYFRIEND FINALLY GOT THE TICKETS JFDKSNJKDNDSFJKNDJKDFNDSNDND I'M GOING CRAZY VOU VER A LOIRINHA heeeey so happy to know that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said: It is not necessarily a lie, it’s called hype, branding, public relations. Pollstar gets the numbers of attendance and gross from the tour promoter directly, not from the stadium owners or the person running Taylor’s Instagram I don't know why you are getting downvoted, a lot of the attendance numbers come from local media publications that can easily make it up to make bigger headlines or simply because they search the stadium capacity on Wikipedia. Any way, the Pollstar numbers seem to be an estimation still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YR. Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: heeeey so happy to know that Talent won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeM Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: Yeah gross is fine But we wanted attendance Taylor team still hiding numbers Attendance is kinda public, every stadium has reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Togekiss Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 I have a feeling the gross is actually true, but they just estimated attendance numbers using the rep tour. The average price will obviously not be $253, so if the gross stays the same and the attendance goes up, the average price will go down. It was estimated at $210 anyways so it kinda adds up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowsignal14 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 they literally stated "0/22" lmao those are obviously not the real numbers. that 53k average is even lower than the rep tour average when she's been selling seats BEHIND the stage this tour. the real average is somewhere around 65k. i get that they couldn't publish this without the biggest of the year but damn just say we don't have numbers the lack of professionalism is outstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowsignal14 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 but again this is her team's fault lmao if they weren't weirdoes and published the data every week like normal f*cking people we wouldn't be here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: I have a feeling the gross is actually true, but they just estimated attendance numbers using the rep tour. The average price will obviously not be $253, so if the gross stays the same and the attendance goes up, the average price will go down. It was estimated at $210 anyways so it kinda adds up I hope there is an explantion of the process of how they came with the numbers. The average gross seems realistic with a larger attendance and low price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: I have a feeling the gross is actually true, but they just estimated attendance numbers using the rep tour. The average price will obviously not be $253, so if the gross stays the same and the attendance goes up, the average price will go down. It was estimated at $210 anyways so it kinda adds up I agree. Billboard's initial prediction was $591M with average ticket price of $215 and 170,000 tickets remaining, which is an overall of $627M. Pollstar's initial prediction was $624M-728M. If she does $300M in 22 dates that would be $711M gross for the US leg. All the numbers seem to point in the same direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Togekiss Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bonicap said: I agree. Billboard's initial prediction was $591M with average ticket price of $215 and 170,000 tickets remaining, which is an overall of $627M. Pollstar's initial prediction was $624M-728M. If she does $300M in 22 dates that would be $711M gross for the US leg. All the numbers seem to point in the same direction. And she can absolutely do $300M with the remaining 54 international dates (which are likely to be a lot more once they go on sale). 1B should be a realistic threshold now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 The most expensive shows aren't even included there yet. I do believe the gross but yeah the attendance is obviously estimated based on her previous tour. She isn't reporting anything until the end of the US leg/tour so this is what we'll have for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: And she can absolutely do $300M with the remaining 54 international dates (which are likely to be a lot more once they go on sale). 1B should be a realistic threshold now She would need around 7.5M average which is very feasible given that the Australia, Mexico, UK and probably Singapour should do much more than that. Hopefully Elton doesn't extent his tour sp she can get the record. Edited June 26, 2023 by Axelios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Ms. Togekiss said: And she can absolutely do $300M with the remaining 54 international dates (which are likely to be a lot more once they go on sale). 1B should be a realistic threshold now Yeah, specially with 14 dates in UK+Australia. Also the Japan/Singapore dates will do great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonicap Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Just now, Axelios said: She would need around 7.5M average which is very feasible given that the Australia,Mexico,UK and probably Singapour should do much more than that. If she does $700M with the US leg she would only need an average of $5.6M. If she adds 10 shows more (🤞) that would be an average of $4.7M. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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