Feanor Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 It's a pity that the new Hong Kong stadium won't finish in time next year. They have more relaxed regulations than mainland China, so she probably could've done another 5-6 shows there quite easily and without any issues. Would've also given her Chinese and Southeast Asian fans more options than just Singapore.
KOMH Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 The way she has enough demand to do 20 shows in Singapore. Might as well go for it.
Klein Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, KOMH said: The way she has enough demand to do 20 shows in Singapore. Might as well go for it. 20 is a lot but I really hope she adds up to 10 shows in Singapore. That would be nice for the Asian fans that are some of the biggest fans. Hope she also adds a few shows in Tokyo.
cat1867 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Klein said: 20 is a lot but I really hope she adds up to 10 shows in Singapore. That would be nice for the Asian fans that are some of the biggest fans. Hope she also adds a few shows in Tokyo. I have hope for Singapore. But I don't think she has plans to add dates to Tokyo since she already plans to have 4 shows in the row. If she had room to add more, it would have made more sense to keep to her 3 a week schedule.
thatsmydemi Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 I fear Spain's date is gonna sold out in minutes. Ticketmaster has been doing weird things lately here as well... We definitely need a second date here. 1
Klein Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 I just saw the Dear John performance. Dear lord has the audience ever been so loud for a surprise song?
joanabt Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 7 hours ago, cat1867 said: I think Europe is a bit of a mess with most people registering for multiple dates. I think she might want to announce additional dates after the first sales are over to ensure she adds the correct amount in the best locations. But they might have better data that would allow them to add dates sooner. even if that's the case, they know she has enough demand everywhere. even if they're not sure she can sell it out instantly, they should add more dates still. anyways, remember when artists didn't sell out instantly and added dates anyway? those were good times. i spent a couple of weeks planning trips to the sweetener world tour in europe bc tickets were still available in most places (didnt go tho, i was 15 at the time and my mum wouldnt let me. it still hurts to this day)
cat1867 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Klein said: I just saw the Dear John performance. Dear lord has the audience ever been so loud for a surprise song? One of the loudest but Paper Rings yesterday was louder driven by the younger fans.
Klein Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, joanabt said: even if that's the case, they know she has enough demand everywhere. even if they're not sure she can sell it out instantly, they should add more dates still. anyways, remember when artists didn't sell out instantly and added dates anyway? those were good times. i spent a couple of weeks planning trips to the sweetener world tour in europe bc tickets were still available in most places (didnt go tho, i was 15 at the time and my mum wouldnt let me. it still hurts to this day) Honestly, most of the time concerts don't sell out that fast. In my experience, the Renaissance tour is the only one I missed because of too much demand (and still, I could have bought a VIP tickets for like hundreds of € if I really wanted too). I really miss the times you could actually think for a second before buying the tickets to see the biggest names. FOMO is at an all time high post covid. Edited June 25, 2023 by Klein 2 1
velocity Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 How long does it roughly take for the pre-sale registration to end and for them to start sending out invites?
joanabt Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Klein said: Honestly, most of the time concerts don't sell out that fast. In my experience, the Renaissance tour is the only one I missed because of too much demand (and still, I could have bought a VIP tickets for like hundreds of € if I really wanted too). I really miss the times you could actually think for a second before buying the tickets to see the biggest names. FOMO is at an all time high post covid. hopefully concert hysteria will die down a bit hahhaha, i blame tiktok honestly
Dragonbeast Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, CatchIt said: It's crazy that Singapore was the only SEA stop for the 1989 World Tour as well and back then she only performed 2 shows for 17k fans. And many considered 1989 to be her peak. And yet 8 years later, she's performing to over 300k fans (which is more than the attendance for Singapore's 3 day F1 weekend). It's quite clear 80% of the crowd are going to be hype buyers and not actual fans. Lots of Filipino Swifties are actually getting their friends and relatives to buy tickets on their behalf. I live in Singapore and my apartment mate is a Filipino working here. His lady friend back home requested him to help purchase tickets for her and her friends back home. You are also seriously underestimating the number of people who like TS in Singapore. Four years ago in 2019, even though Cruel Summer wasn't released as a single, it reached number 8 on Singapore's chart. And it has been number one on the Singapore Spotify chart for the last 3 days. Edited June 25, 2023 by Dragonbeast
wowsignal14 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Klein said: So the total is already 105 dates, before the new dates everywhere else. I think she'll end up at 125-130, which is absolutely MASSIVE for a stadium tour. 106
wowsignal14 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 4 hours ago, IBeMe said: but lots of ppl still listen to music and stuff even during Ramandan. The vast majority of ppl are not militant when it comes to religion tbh (and the government still allows music festivals during ramadan). Phillipines NEEDS dates tho...they are such huge stans and like you said they can deff do festival setting for the tour but idk if there is much financial incentive to go sadly :( the Phillipines economy is so weak right now... forget about her touring any muslim country that isn't turkey because of her YNTCD performance + having two male dancers dance together in lover. also Singapore is promoted in the poster in red and bold as "THE ONLY TOUR STOP IN SOUTH EAST ASIA" so if she even adds a new stop in asia it'll be in china.
Klein Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wowsignal14 said: 106 Did she add another date outside of the 3 in Singapore? Cause she was at 102 before that. I just counted by myself and you're right, it's really 106 so far. Edited June 25, 2023 by Klein
wowsignal14 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Klein said: Did she add another date outside of the 3 in Singapore? Cause she was at 102 before that. wasn't it 103?
wowsignal14 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 i think after the tour wraps up she should do an independent concert in The Philippine Arena. like with a basic stage and production. a two hours concert for her fans mostly with acoustic sets like that city of lover in paris concert. she can do 5-7 dates of it just in that arena and it'll sell out instantly
Feanor Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 She won't add any new cities. There'll only be additional dates in whatever cities she has already announced. It's the same thing that happened when she announced the the first dates: People also thought she'd add Miami, DC, Toronto… but those obviously never came. This is it. 3 1
vale9001 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) she won't add any new country, these things have one year of negotiations and everything is already well planned in terms of organizations. It can happen only with a new leg after the already annunced legs. Which is not impossible but i don't know if after like 110-115 shows she would go again in Asia and everything, but who knows. China seems very unlikely btw, the political situation is not quiet because of Russia War and Hong Kong situation so the promoters won't risk money. Edited June 25, 2023 by vale9001
Kiss It Better Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 5 hours ago, cat1867 said: Taylor isn't going to create an entirely new tour stage and concept in the middle of an almost 2 year tour for one country no matter how deserving. Taylor creating her own festival in country takes a lot of organization, planning and logistic works that Taylor and her team simply doesn't have time for in this massive tour. I hope that in future tour she can do a residency in the Philippines but it isn't going to be this tour. other artists literally have different stages for the same tour in the past, it's not a new thing, katy perry had smaller stage set during prism tour when she went to asia, rihanna had different stage for when she played arenas and stadiums during diamonds world tour for example
Gangbaby Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) They will add some shows at the current cities, that's for sure. Currently with 106 shows, they released 6,500,000 tickets on sale. As for the SEAsian shows. You will see more and more Pop stadium tours going only in Singapore. The costs/logistics of touring in Asia & Oceania are x4 times higher of what it was pre-Covid (x6 at some cases). Singapore has a major port, airport & airline, it can support higher ticket prices also. Kuala Lumpur is somehow conservative and neighbouring with Singapore city. Bangkok has a small arena at 10000 seats or stadium of 50000 seats but the income is way lower than Singapore. Phillipines only have a small arena of 9000 seats or an ampitheater dome of 35000 seats not suited for stages with long runways. Vietnam don't have production companies at the scale of supporting massive international stadium shows. Indonesia is conservative & risky for pop female shows and also have either a small arena or a huge stadium. To be able to have a success story touring Asia or Oceania you need the minimum logistic costs, cities with kinda high income per capita to support higher prices and be able to book at least 2 shows to cover the transportation costs. Rest of Asia, Hong Kong doesn't have ready the new stadium, South Korea isn't a big TS audience, so only Taipei could use that and that's with a big question mark. As far for Oceania they released 390,000 tickets with 5 shows, with 1 more show per city that will scale up to 550,000 tickets available from 7 shows. They could add Brisbane but there's no reason to rise the logistic costs with that amount of tickets already available. Adelaide has a history of not hosting shows and there's a reason about it. Also Perth and Auckland were a NO GO from day one. It's like transporting the whole production from Boston to Los Angeles and the income per capita is way lower than those of Sydney & Melbourne. The currency right now doesn't help cause $US is a lot higher than $AU. Also India can't support yet productions of that scale and there are no other neighbouring countries to also support it to minimize the logistics costs. As far for Belgium the stadium doesn't have enough lenght space to fit the stage and it's a city neighbouring to Amsterdam (110,000 tickets), Paris (soon 120,000 tickets) and Rhine in Germany (55,000 tickets), we talk about a 2-3 hours distance by train. Also do your self a favour not comparing the ERAS TOUR with the Music of the Spheres Tour (Coldplay) and get mad about not coming to a city near you. Coldplay has x3 times less production costs (they literally use the same stage desing with minimum changes for the past 3 tours) and they even re-use the light bands with a recycling programm. Hope I answered to your questions about all those WHY you got. Edited June 25, 2023 by Gangbaby 4
Veis Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gangbaby said: They will add some shows at the current cities, that's for sure. Currently with 106 shows, they released 6,500,000 tickets on sale. As for the SEAsian shows. You will see more and more Pop stadium tours going only in Singapore. The costs/logistics of touring in Asia & Oceania are x4 times higher of what it was pre-Covid (x6 at some cases). Singapore has a major port, airport & airline, it can support higher ticket prices also. Kuala Lumpur is somehow conservative and neighbouring with Singapore city. Bangkok has a small arena at 10000 seats or stadium of 50000 seats but the income is way lower than Singapore. Phillipines only have a small arena of 9000 seats or an ampitheater dome of 35000 seats not suited for stages with long runways. Vietnam don't have production companies at the scale of supporting massive international stadium shows. Indonesia is conservative & risky for pop female shows and also have either a small arena or a huge stadium. To be able to have a success story touring Asia or Oceania you need the minimum logistic costs, cities with kinda high income per capita to support higher prices and be able to book at least 2 shows to cover the transportation costs. Rest of Asia, Hong Kong doesn't have ready the new stadium, South Korea isn't a big TS audience, so only Taipei could use that and that's with a big question mark. As far for Oceania they released 390,000 tickets with 5 shows, with 1 more show per city that will scale up to 550,000 tickets available from 7 shows. They could add Brisbane but there's no reason to rise the logistic costs with that amount of tickets already available. Adelaide never got many shows and there's a reason about it. Also Perth and Auckland were a NO GO from day one. It's like transporting the whole production from Boston to Los Angeles and the income per capita is way lower than those of Sydney & Melbourne. The currency right now doesn't help cause $US is a lot higher than $AU. Also India can't support yet productions of that scale and there are no other neighbouring countries to also support it to minimize the logistics costs. As far for Belgium the stadium doesn't have enough lenght space to fit the stage and it's a city neighbouring to Amsterdam (110,000 tickets), Paris (soon 120,000 tickets) and Rhine in Germany (55,000 tickets), we talk about a 2-3 hours distance by train. Hope I answered to your questions about all those WHY you got. Finally someone said what needs to be said
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