RihFenty20 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, supertiffany said: without fraudmasters she is the BEST-SELLING FEMALE artist of all time the title should be changed to MOST CONSUMPTION UNITS since fraudmasters measure consumption, not sales! I know Madonna is the Queen. but fraudmaster’s numbers aren’t accurate nor has anyone referenced their made up methodology for anything regarding the success of artists. And as you said, they attempt to measure consumption not sales. Best selling is not the same as most consumed. Either way, presenting their receipts as facts is disingenuous.
Ricky Wilson Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Not people being mad at the list for including the best SELLING albums and not little quick free streams, ring tones and $0.99 singles
supertiffany Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, RihFenty20 said: I know Madonna is the Queen. but fraudmaster’s numbers aren’t accurate nor has anyone referenced their made up methodology for anything regarding the success of artists. And as you said, they attempt to measure consumption not sales. Best selling is not the same as most consumed. Either way, presenting their receipts as facts is disingenuous. yeah unless there are no other references they should not be the first priority as source of information
Punky Rooster Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Sahn said: If you put the 12 best selling acts of all time in a room they would be 33 men and Madonna. It's crazy when you put it in this perspective. Why was/is Madonna the exception in this male dominated field? Discuss. Because she is the Queen, and these figures are greatly uncertified, so she dominates even more
KKCuteCat Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 People really need to stop with these stupid why questions? What are expected us to answer you?
Chris Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, HotFriedChicken said: Am I the only one noticing the Madonnaganda on this site the past couple of weeks is getting out of control? And what's that supposed to mean?
KFC Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, ATWK said: If making a thread about a fav's achievement is "propaganda" now, then rename ATRL to Agitprop, because that's literally what this whole place is about OT: Mother doing mother tingz as usual 4 hours ago, Oktober Knight said: Because we post about her success and celebrate that she's the most popular and successful female artists of all time? You sound bothered by that. You people can feel free to post about your faves success, I don't care about that. I just find it odd you've all decided to do it recently
RihFenty20 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kozy said: quick lil $1.29 singles will never be weighted the same as albums, keep crying and IFPI uses the same methodology as Chartmasters, so stop spreading fake news just because you’re mad where your fave places on the list We don’t know what methodology IFPI uses because that’s not public information. You’re the one spreading fake news and clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Fraudmasters (an unofficial source) uses 1.5/10 singles for an album. RIAA (an official source) uses 1/10 for an album. Fraudmasters weighs down YT streams but RIAA uses 1500 as standard for both audio and video streams. I hope they’re paying you with the way you’re going hard to defend them and their fake methodology. I don’t care about where my fav placed on the site because I (and the industry) don’t acknowledge them as a valid source. Edited October 17, 2022 by RihFenty20
Lover Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, HotFriedChicken said: You people can feel free to post about your faves success, I don't care about that. I just find it odd you've all decided to do it recently mom is ruling atrl since MDNA like where have you been 33 men? is that good?
TheRealGâteau Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Dula Peep said: And Madge has the biggest d*ck out of all of them too And the biggest bawlls, too. 7 hours ago, dirrtydiana said: and the only other female in Madonnas lane who even comes close is Britney Not even Top 40 material, sweetie. She's closer to the Red Hot Chili Peppers' success in both overall sales figures and on that list than she is to Madonna.
Homebrand Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Protocol said: Chartmasters don't pretend that $1.29 singles and albums are equivalent like Rihanna's label do when they claim she's "sold over 200 million records!!1" Come on now, comparing Rihanna's and Madonna's record is apples and oranges, don't be daft.
Rihannito Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 As if Madonna would have sold those many albums if she came out in the 2010’s. Girl please. She would have had huge success but with nowadays sales. I’m not trying to discredit her accomplishments, I am a HUGE Madonna fan but when her so called fans discredit Rihanna claiming that her sales are inflated…you know dam well that Rihanna has sold TONS of MILLIONS of singles, and you will have to deal with the second highest selling female artist of all time soon to be #1.
RihFenty20 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Kozy said: um yeah so chartmasters inflates singles compared to RIAA which means rihanna whose digital singles sales account for the bulk of her CSPC, would be lower using RIAA’s formula, not sure how that’s supposed to be a gag It was just to prove the point that their metric is made up and is not to be taken as fact?!? CSPC is not a real thing. A bunch you pretending that fraudmasters is valid won’t change that Until someone from the industry references that site, it holds no merit. And again, I don’t care where Rihanna is on that list because it does not matter. They are an unofficial site that uses a made up metric and has incomplete information.
passivista Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 because its madonna, the greatest female artist.
passivista Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 she knew how to make art and promote herself, her innovation and ways to shift pop culture gave the attention she needed to become the queen
UnusualBoy Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Well, the top 10 alone is full of legend so queen is with good company.
tiagol88 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Rihannito said: As if Madonna would have sold those many albums if she came out in the 2010’s. Girl please. She would have had huge success but with nowadays sales. I’m not trying to discredit her accomplishments, I am a HUGE Madonna fan but when her so called fans discredit Rihanna claiming that her sales are inflated…you know dam well that Rihanna has sold TONS of MILLIONS of singles, and you will have to deal with the second highest selling female artist of all time soon to be #1. No one is stopping the new girls from having almost 40 top 10 hits in the USA,, 63 top 10 in the UK, 25 #1 hits in Spain and Canada, and 23 #1 hits in italy, including Rihanna... As if Madonna's receipts are only for albums sold lmao. For your last sentence...Celine is about to surpass Madonna in sales? With what?
1989 Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 I’m not surprised at all. The only other female in Madonna’s lane who will even come remotely close is Taylor.
Rihannito Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, tiagol88 said: No one is stopping the new girls from having almost 40 top 10 hits in the USA,, 63 top 10 in the UK, 25 #1 hits in Spain and Canada, and 23 #1 hits in italy, including Rihanna... As if Madonna's receipts are only for albums sold lmao. For your last sentence...Celine is about to surpass Madonna in sales? With what? In Terms of record sales, Rihanna is the second highest selling female artist of all time just behind Madonna who happens to be just 30 years older than she is. Rihanna is the highest certified female artist both in the US and the UK. Those 63 top tens didn’t do much to her certifications. Do you want me to do a breakdown to Rihanna’s certifications in the UK? Only thing Madonna has over Rihanna is albums which is totally understandable taking into account the music climate era she comes from ( 80’s/90’s) and also explains why Rihanna is way above her in the singles department (00’s/10’s) Madonna has obviously solid album sales but when you compare her album sales to her peers at the time, she didn’t come close to what Whitney, Celine or Mariah were selling. Same can be said about Rihanna, her album sales are fine but not close to Taylor or Adele per example. Edited October 18, 2022 by Rihannito
WildHeart Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Rihannito said: In Terms of record sales, Rihanna is the second highest selling female artist of all time just behind Madonna who happens to be just 30 years older than she is. Rihanna is the highest certified female artist both in the US and the UK. Those 63 top tens didn’t do much to her certifications. Do you want me to do a breakdown to Rihanna’s certifications in the UK? Only thing Madonna has over Rihanna is albums which is totally understandable taking into account the music climate era she comes from ( 80’s/90’s) and also explains why Rihanna is way above her in the singles department (00’s/10’s) Madonna has obviously solid album sales but when you compare her album sales to her peers at the time, she didn’t come close to what Whitney, Celine or Mariah were selling. Same can be said about Rihanna, her album sales are fine but not close to Taylor or Adele per example. Single certifications =/= album certifications. Combining them makes no sense. One requires 150 streams, other does 1500 streams. This is why every publication use album units now (1 album = 10 single = 1500 streams). Rihanna's own label confirmed her selling 100M album units when Madonna sold over 250M album units.
Madonno Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Rihannito said: Madonna has obviously solid album sales but when you compare her album sales to her peers at the time, she didn’t come close to what Whitney, Celine or Mariah were selling. Same can be said about Rihanna, her album sales are fine but not close to Taylor or Adele per example. Madonna SOLD more albums than Celine, Mariah AND Whitney
Rihannito Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: Single certifications =/= album certifications. Combining them makes no sense. One requires 150 streams, other does 1500 streams. This is why every publication use album units now (1 album = 10 single = 1500 streams). Rihanna's own label confirmed her selling 100M album units when Madonna sold over 250M album units. My replay was simply to that ORH who just had to bring Rihanna into the conversation. Madonna’s sales are untouchable but to discredit Rihanna’s accomplissement specially taking into account the sales climate of the 00’s and 10’s is just delusional and hateful. While I do agree that the combining albums and singles is unfair we do have to take into account that albums were the thing back at the time and now it’s the singles. It’s the way things have become.
stevyy Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 I am elated for Madge and fascinated that Céline and Mariah rank so high as well.
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