charts discussion NewGen Pop Stars Biggest Eras (Billie, Dua, Olivia, Doja, Cardi, Harry & Lil Nas X)

[Cryptique]

1. Dua Lipa (2017) by Dua Lipa

   TOTAL CSPC: 14.79M

   Album Sales: 600k (5.21.22 Update)

 

2. When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? (2019) by Billie Eilish

   TOTAL CSPC: 14.60M

   Album Sales: 2.34M (7.19.22 Update)

 

3. Future Nostalgia (2020) by Dua Lipa

   TOTAL CSPC: 12.62M

   Album Sales: 670K (5.21.22 Update)

 

4. Don't Smile At Me (2017) by Billie Eilish

   TOTAL CSPC: 10.71M

   Album Sales: 1.01M (7.19.22 Update)

 

5. Sour (2021) by Olivia Rodrigo

   TOTAL CSPC: 10.61M

   Album Sales: 1.17M (8.11.22 Update)

 

6. Fine Line (2019) by Harry Styles

   TOTAL CSPC: 9.97M

   Album Sales: 1.92M (5.18.22 Update)

 

7. Planet Her (2021) by Doja Cat

   TOTAL CSPC: 6.55M

   Album Sales: 123k (8.22.22 Update)

 

8. Harry Styles (2017) by Harry Styles

   TOTAL CSPC: 5.58M

   Album Sales: 1.33M (5.18.22 Update)

 

9. Invasion Of Privacy (2018) by Cardi B

   TOTAL CSPC: 5.48M

   Album Sales: 343k (9.07.21 Update)

 

10. 7 (2019) by Lil Nas X

   TOTAL CSPC: 5.45M

   Album Sales: 20k (8.16.22 Update)

 

11. Montero (2021) by Lil Nas X

   TOTAL CSPC: 5.43M

   Album Sales: 38k (8.16.22)

 

12. Happier Than Ever (2021) by Billie Eilish

   TOTAL CSPC: 5.29M

   Album Sales: 905k (7.19.22 Update)

 

13. Hot Pink (2019) by Doja Cat

   TOTAL CSPC: 4.87M

   Album Sales: 70k (8.22.22 Update)

 

14. Harry's House (2022) by Harry Styles

   TOTAL CSPC: 3.66M

   Album Sales: N/A (5.18.22 Update)

[Cryptique]

If we include Post Malone

 

Stoney(2016): 10.33M CSPC (485k Sales)

Beerbongs & Bentleys(2018): 13.59M CSPC (789k Sales)

Hollywood's Bleeding(2019): 13.33M CSPC (705k Sales)

[XAMJ]

Billie is the biggest star by far

[Ivan_brit]

Dua, Billie & Harry Trinity

[Cryptique]

1 minute ago, XAMJ said:

Billie is the biggest star by far

i agree.. Dua Lipa had 2 MASSIVE Eras but webeenknew her numbers are inflated by adding collabs and droplets

[Klein]

Dua, Billie and Doja really are the new generation of MPG. Excited to see if Olivia will join them. 

[Rei]

Wow Billie’s and Olivia’s album sales are so high. Dua’s are abysmal.

 

K bye for now, Sunshine. <3

[Cryptique]

i think we can all agree that Billie, Harry and Olivia are the last Pure Album Sellers

[Rev8]

Hot Pink less than a mili away from Cardi's debut?!

 

Billie's EP bigger than Sour?!

 

 

just a bit disappointed from Harry's and Hot Pink's numbers

but Harry has constantly gotten +1M album sales and HH is just starting (5m by the end of the year?)

 

1 hour ago, Cryptique said:

If we include Post Malone

 

Stoney(2016): 10.33M CSPC (485k Sales)

Beerbongs & Bentleys(2018): 13.59M CSPC (789k Sales)

Hollywood's Bleeding(2019): 13.33M CSPC (705k Sales)

Whew

kind of sad he only has 1 good album

shocking all of his eras are +10m too

Heteros power

[pride4jc1222]

I don't know what your definition of New Gen is, but Cardi and Harry are definitely not part of it. Cardi is about to turn 30 and Harry is 28. Even Dua and Doja are 26/27, and not really a part of New Gen.

 

The only ones here that are New Gen are Billie, Olivia, and LNX.

[UnusualBoy]

Dua's debut 14 million? , streaming really inflates numbers.

[Kyoto]

47 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

Dua's debut 14 million? , streaming really inflates numbers.

I love Dua, but her debut is basically a playlist.

[Cryptique]

1 hour ago, pride4jc1222 said:

I don't know what your definition of New Gen is, but Cardi and Harry are definitely not part of it. Cardi is about to turn 30 and Harry is 28. Even Dua and Doja are 26/27, and not really a part of New Gen.

 

The only ones here that are New Gen are Billie, Olivia, and LNX.

I obviously meant the current batch of popstars 

[Cain]

Dua Queen of Pop

[Luckitty]

doja's sales 

[MALAMENTE]

Billie definitely has the best and most impressive stats 

[bad guy]

Billie's little EP bigger than the album ATRLers said is supposedly bigger than WWAFA? 

[Afterglow]

 

1 hour ago, pride4jc1222 said:

I don't know what your definition of New Gen is, but Cardi and Harry are definitely not part of it. Cardi is about to turn 30 and Harry is 28. Even Dua and Doja are 26/27, and not really a part of New Gen.

 

The only ones here that are New Gen are Billie, Olivia, and LNX.

They mean by debut year I believe. New Gen would mean they debuted during a different wave of pop music. But tea at how the best pop artists are still millennials tbh.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Afterglow

[Isaiah]

I love Dua but her stats are soooo ingenuine  considering she tacks all her smash droplets and collabs onto her albums wayyy after the fact 

Billie remains the most impressive current-gen star imo 

[professor2000]

3 hours ago, Luckitty said:

doja's sales 

Somebody clock me if I’m wrong, but there’s little-to-no physical for both HP and PH, right? 
 

I hope they don’t fumble physical sales next era. 

[More Than A Melody]

These numbers with no context are next to useless. Harry and Olivia have done zero collaborations, their numbers are truly 100% their own, and that should count for something.

 

I also don't trust these numbers completely because HDD said Fine Line had sold 10M+ worldwide before As It Was came out, which is a month and a half before the update we see here.

 

I'd rather go by certifications (WW), which is an official measure and the fairest, if we're being serious...

 

SINGLES

1. Billie Eilish 74,556,666 solo (with features and collabs 80,866,666)
2. Harry Styles 56,650,999 (with features and collabs 56,650,999)
3. Dua Lipa - 40,998,666 solo (with features and collabs 82,360,731)
4. Olivia Rodrigo - 32,806,000 (32,806,000 with features and collabs)
5. Doja Cat - 29,606,666 solo (49,481,666 with features and collabs)
6. Cardi B - 23,021,666 solo (111,563,331 with features and collabs)
7. Lil Nas X - 21,943,333 solo (55,909,999 with features and collabs)

ALBUMS (all units)

1. Billie Eilish - 9,027,500
2. Harry Styles - 8,592,000
3. Dua Lipa - 5,474,347
4. Olivia Rodrigo - 4,165,000
5. Lil Nas X - 4,161,500
6. Cardi B - 3,375,000
7. Doja Cat - 3,180,000

Billie takes the lead on both fronts, though I think Harry will overtake it this era. He's extremely close with albums and while singles will take longer, As It Was is being certified left and right already, Late Night Talking is becoming a mid range hit, and Sushi is coming, meanwhile the bulk of Billie's units are from 2017-2019.

 

Dua sits comfortable in the third spot on both fronts, and you can clearly see that her features are the ones bulking up her totals, Olivia is not far behind with a very clean discography. Lil Nas did better in terms of albums but his solo singles didn't fare that well (Panini and Montero are the only solo singles that performed well of his). Cardi relies heavily on features and collabs, her absolute biggest hit solo is Bodak Yellow and even then, it's not that big worldwide, while it's Diamond in America, Bad Guy overtakes in total units and Watermelon Sugar isn't far behind (speaking of solo songs only - overall Old Town Road is significantly above it). Doja's biggest song is Say So, but a lot of her units come from Kiss Me More and the rest of her songs aren't that big worldwide.

 

Selling power is better exposed with numbers like these, and I think this crowns Billie, Harry, and Olivia, as the trio that actually sells the most, which isn't strange considering they're the ones with actual fanbases.

 

*I counted Say So and Bad Guy as solo songs because the versions that sold the most were solo

[Protocol]

 

8 hours ago, UnusualBoy said:

Dua's debut 14 million? , streaming really inflates numbers.

That's because they added all her collabs from the first few years of her career to it, including "One Kiss"  

 

If Billie had added "Everything I Wanted", the James Bond song, and the Rosalia duet to Happier Than Ever then it would be at around 8M units, and there is a much better argument that those songs especially EIW are part of her 'sophomore era'

[unclefloprry]

Dua, Doja, Billie and Harry   and some "One Era Wonders," like Meghan Trainor the past generation 

Miss @Cryptique do you have Camila and Halsey's stats? since they are part of this generation 

[Jude]

Olivia is going to to be #1.

[BowWow]

6 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

These numbers with no context are next to useless. Harry and Olivia have done zero collaborations, their numbers are truly 100% their own, and that should count for something.

 

I also don't trust these numbers completely because HDD said Fine Line had sold 10M+ worldwide before As It Was came out, which is a month and a half before the update we see here.

 

I'd rather go by certifications (WW), which is an official measure and the fairest, if we're being serious...

 

SINGLES

1. Billie Eilish 74,556,666 solo (with features and collabs 80,866,666)
2. Harry Styles 56,650,999 (with features and collabs 56,650,999)
3. Dua Lipa - 40,998,666 solo (with features and collabs 82,360,731)
4. Olivia Rodrigo - 32,806,000 (32,806,000 with features and collabs)
5. Doja Cat - 29,606,666 solo (49,481,666 with features and collabs)
6. Cardi B - 23,021,666 solo (111,563,331 with features and collabs)
7. Lil Nas X - 21,943,333 solo (55,909,999 with features and collabs)

ALBUMS (all units)

1. Billie Eilish - 9,027,500
2. Harry Styles - 8,592,000
3. Dua Lipa - 5,474,347
4. Olivia Rodrigo - 4,165,000
5. Lil Nas X - 4,161,500
6. Cardi B - 3,375,000
7. Doja Cat - 3,180,000

Billie takes the lead on both fronts, though I think Harry will overtake it this era. He's extremely close with albums and while singles will take longer, As It Was is being certified left and right already, Late Night Talking is becoming a mid range hit, and Sushi is coming, meanwhile the bulk of Billie's units are from 2017-2019.

 

Dua sits comfortable in the third spot on both fronts, and you can clearly see that her features are the ones bulking up her totals, Olivia is not far behind with a very clean discography. Lil Nas did better in terms of albums but his solo singles didn't fare that well (Panini and Montero are the only solo singles that performed well of his). Cardi relies heavily on features and collabs, her absolute biggest hit solo is Bodak Yellow and even then, it's not that big worldwide, while it's Diamond in America, Bad Guy overtakes in total units and Watermelon Sugar isn't far behind (speaking of solo songs only - overall Old Town Road is significantly above it). Doja's biggest song is Say So, but a lot of her units come from Kiss Me More and the rest of her songs aren't that big worldwide.

 

Selling power is better exposed with numbers like these, and I think this crowns Billie, Harry, and Olivia, as the trio that actually sells the most, which isn't strange considering they're the ones with actual fanbases.

 

*I counted Say So and Bad Guy as solo songs because the versions that sold the most were solo

Love this analysis  quite interesting even if I don’t fully agree that solo work is better as it inherently discriminates against hip-pop and electro genres which both build on collaborations. But these genres also tend to do better single sales and worst  album sales so tbh it’s impossible to make it completely fair. 
 

Ot: fascinated to see how Olivia does, she needs to hurry and drop already