discussion Is anyone sick of everything being political?

[mistertsa]

Yes I’m sick of everything in general.

[Trent W]

25 minutes ago, DoctorIce said:

What a crock. Art is a medium that has always been culturally (and therefore politically) significant. To suggest that political expression in 2022 is bad and art should purely be a shiny thing for mere entertainment is wildly stupid. 

 

 

Oh please don’t be an hypocrite, you know what we are talking about.

 

Of course Art and politics are attached, but the industry has been plagued by fake activists the last few years using social issues to their own advantage.

 

So don’t come with that crap, you know perfectly what’s been going on the last years.

[RT Air]

Entertainment today reminds me of Mr Garrison’s non-offensive Christmas play

 

 

[Joyride]

kind of yes and kind of not.

 

however, I do hate that I have been prosecuted for my views which are very left-leaning. a few days ago I was having a few arguments on both Twitter and Insta (with very far right people and I -suddenly- got hacked. I am locked out of my iCloud account and somebody's probably got access to all my emails, iCloud Photos, notes, contacts, etc. which is terrifying.

[DoctorIce]

2 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Oh please don’t be an hypocrite, you know what we are talking about.

 

Of course Art and politics are attached, but the industry has been plagued by fake activists the last few years using social issues to their own advantage.

 

So don’t come with that crap, you know perfectly what’s been going on the last years.

You're the second consecutive person who failed to substantiate their original post and instead alluded to "you know what I mean...". 

 

Like, no. Consider for a moment that not everyone shares your worldview and make clear what you actually mean. 

[ANTIclimatic]

Yes! I followed the 2020 election is depth and basically followed a lot of political stuff on twitter, now i'm spending time unfollowing them because it's just too much. Everytime I use to go on the app I was bombarded with hot takes and political opninions and frankly nowI  just don't care. I honestly feel much better and enjoy my online experience more now that I don't make being SJW my entire personality trait.

[ANTIclimatic]

On 9/5/2022 at 9:27 AM, Joyride said:

kind of yes and kind of not.

 

however, I do hate that I have been prosecuted for my views which are very left-leaning. a few days ago I was having a few arguments on both Twitter and Insta (with very far right people and I -suddenly- got hacked. I am locked out of my iCloud account and somebody's probably got access to all my emails, iCloud Photos, notes, contacts, etc. which is terrifying.

Sounds scary! Hopefully you were able to resolve the issue np.

[Headlock]

Everything has always been political, you were just too young to realize it 

[Headlock]

On 9/5/2022 at 9:25 AM, Trent W said:

Oh please don’t be an hypocrite, you know what we are talking about.

 

Of course Art and politics are attached, but the industry has been plagued by fake activists the last few years using social issues to their own advantage.

 

So don’t come with that crap, you know perfectly what’s been going on the last years.

No, this post is a cop out, if you want to say something then say it, elaborate, give examples. Otherwise you're giving away that you don't actually have any substantial points to make.

[Headlock]

On 9/5/2022 at 6:29 AM, Damien M said:

Everything IS political, sorry 

 

White people are just uncomfortable with minorities asserting themselves and taking up space. I mean, look at this thread. 

[Trent W]

35 minutes ago, Headlock said:

No, this post is a cop out, if you want to say something then say it, elaborate, give examples. Otherwise you're giving away that you don't actually have any substantial points to make.

Main point is:

 

Is OK to want to avoid political content online

 

Is OK to wanna hear music that has no political content

 

IS OK to wanna avoid shows and movies with political forced topics

 

Is OK wanting to avoid politics all together

 

And about the previous post I basically just said that most people are tired of the twitter sjw persona and that’s it

 

 

[Trent W]

And NO

 

Not everything is political, we don’t have to care about politics if we don’t want to.

 

It’s always in our best interest to care and pay attention to what’s going on.

 

But if you’re acting like we have to be bombarded 24/7 by left or right political content then we’re all going to a mental asylum. Is not healthy.

Edited September 7, 2022 by Trent W

[Headlock]

12 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Main point is:

 

Is OK to want to avoid political content online

 

Is OK to wanna hear music that has no political content

 

IS OK to wanna avoid shows and movies with political forced topics

 

Is OK wanting to avoid politics all together

That was NOT your "main point". This was your original post:

On 9/1/2022 at 11:12 PM, Trent W said:

I honestly think it was necessary at first, wokeness kind of brought awareness to a lot of issues and a lot more visibility to minorities in media and other forms of communication.

 

But it has become ridiculous. Opportunistic sjw’s canceling everything as some form of currency to gain points and attention.

 

Is PATHETIC to cancel people in 2022, is also pathetic to include politics in your art in 2022.

 

It’s so overused and the ones that used it as currency have destroyed its original message. 

You are saying there is no longer need for "wokeness" in 2022, and that politics should not be in art in 2022. You are taking the stance of the suburban white liberal who likes their gay best friend and is pro-choice, but gets uncomfortable when deeper issues are discussed, especially those that they partake in unconsciously. They don't like being confronted with their biases or privileges, and therefore say things have gone "too far" to prevent themselves from actually doing the work they said they were for initially.

To that point, what in your opinion IS the proper end goal? Where should we have stopped, if it has now gotten "too far". What is the "correct" amount of equality? What is the "correct" amount of inalienable rights that should be afforded to minority communities? What is the "correct" amount of accountability that those in power should be held to?

 

14 minutes ago, Trent W said:

And about the previous post I basically just said that straight white people are tired of the minorities taking up space that belongs to them

Fixed that for you.

 

8 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Not everything is political, we don’t have to care about politics if we don’t want to.

These two statements are not the same thing. Everything IS political, but it is true that you don't have to care about politics if you don't want to. But that doesn't mean the politics is not there anyway. Apathy/willful ignorance does not make it go away.

 

19 minutes ago, Trent W said:

But if you’re acting like we have to be bombarded 24/7 by left or right political content then we’re all going to a mental asylum. Is not healthy.

No one has said this. People pointing out that politics in the media/art/music is not a new phenomenon is not a statement that you must view everything through a political lens. It is stating it is there if you want to. It is also stating that the OP of this thread, and much of your own posts, are reactionary nonsense by those who dislike being shown what has been there all along.

[Trent W]

16 minutes ago, Headlock said:

That was NOT your "main point". This was your original post:

You are saying there is no longer need for "wokeness" in 2022, and that politics should not be in art in 2022. You are taking the stance of the suburban white liberal who likes their gay best friend and is pro-choice, but gets uncomfortable when deeper issues are discussed, especially those that they partake in unconsciously. They don't like being confronted with their biases or privileges, and therefore say things have gone "too far" to prevent themselves from actually doing the work they said they were for initially.

To that point, what in your opinion IS the proper end goal? Where should we have stopped, if it has now gotten "too far". What is the "correct" amount of equality? What is the "correct" amount of inalienable rights that should be afforded to minority communities? What is the "correct" amount of accountability that those in power should be held to?

 

Fixed that for you.

 

These two statements are not the same thing. Everything IS political, but it is true that you don't have to care about politics if you don't want to. But that doesn't mean the politics is not there anyway. Apathy/willful ignorance does not make it go away.

 

No one has said this. People pointing out that politics in the media/art/music is not a new phenomenon is not a statement that you must view everything through a political lens. It is stating it is there if you want to. It is also stating that the OP of this thread, and much of your own posts, are reactionary nonsense by those who dislike being shown what has been there all along.

Of course is not a new phenomenon, but it became too dominant in the last decade, and people are naturally burned out.

 

Apathy will just increase if this keeps being shoved on people’s throats.

 

It’s a very inefficient way to bring awareness.

 

 

[Damien M]

6 hours ago, Trent W said:

Of course is not a new phenomenon, but it became too dominant in the last decade, and people are naturally burned out.

 

Apathy will just increase if this keeps being shoved on people’s throats.

 

It’s a very inefficient way to bring awareness.

 

 

Lol no one’s forcing you to do anything 
 

Plus you are one of the most vocal white supremacist members on this site. who needs YOU as an ally? Go away!

[Trent W]

47 minutes ago, Damien M said:

Lol no one’s forcing you to do anything 
 

Plus you are one of the most vocal white supremacist members on this site. who needs YOU as an ally? Go away!

It should be warnable to make up lies like this.

 

I don’t know if you are confusing me with someone else but I’m not a white supremacist, I have never even posted something racist here

 

Also race has absolutely nothing to do with what I was posting above which is bombarding people with a political content all over the media

 

So save your energy for actual racist people

 

Your rant came out of nowhere

 

 

 

[Headlock]

7 hours ago, Trent W said:

Of course is not a new phenomenon, but it became too dominant in the last decade, and people are naturally burned out.

 

Apathy will just increase if this keeps being shoved on people’s throats.

 

It’s a very inefficient way to bring awareness.

 

 

Once again, you’re resorting to a cop out. Explain yourself. What became too dominant? What is being shoved down people’s throat’s? What has gone too far? Where should we have stopped? Say the quiet part out loud.

 

44 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Also race has absolutely nothing to do with what I was posting above which is bombarding people with a political content all over the media

Girl 

Are you suggesting race and politics are different? 

[Trent W]

2 hours ago, Headlock said:

Once again, you’re resorting to a cop out. Explain yourself. What became too dominant? What is being shoved down people’s throat’s? What has gone too far? Where should we have stopped? Say the quiet part out loud.

 

Girl 

Are you suggesting race and politics are different? 

Politics forced into film, shows(when it’s completely irrelevant).

 

[katara]

Not at all. We need to be politically informed more than ever since there are groups of people trying to tear down rights of people that aren't rich white men left and right.

[ProudLBS]

Yes.

 

Sometimes I wish I hadn’t set up a lemonade stand (for charity!) during the school fair in middle school. That god damned lemonade stand was my red pill.

 

My competitors ratted me out cause I was “making too much money” and the school blocked me from producing more lemonade so my competitors “could have a chance”. Friendly reminder we were working for free and making money for the school.

 

I was so pissed I sold the remaining lemons at a loss, packed my **** and left. Later that week the school congratulated me for having the highest grossing stand of the fair.

 

That lemonade stand taught me about marketing, personal responsibility, finances, economies of scale, and that the government is evil and should be abolished.

[Feanor]

On 9/5/2022 at 12:29 PM, Damien M said:

Everything IS political, sorry 

 

White people are just uncomfortable with minorities asserting themselves and taking up space. I mean, look at this thread. 

 

[Headlock]

On 9/7/2022 at 10:44 PM, Trent W said:

Politics forced into film, shows(when it’s completely irrelevant).

 

What politics? Why do you think they are irrelevant? Specify.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Headlock

[Trent W]

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

What politics? Why do you think they are irrelevant? Specify.

Placing left politics in entertainment, to get a reaction of right wingers. It’s a common strategy companies use now.

 

They are irrelevant because it loses sense of the original story, it gets contaminated by cheap reaction marketing.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Trent W

[RunUpDoneUp]

No, everything has always been political and only those who grew up with their head in the sand didn't see it.

 

Reality sets in QUICK the lower on the social totem pole you are. In a world ruled by the religious and conservative, politics is daily life and always will be.

Edited September 9, 2022 by RunUpDoneUp

[John Slayne]

4 hours ago, Trent W said:

Placing left politics in entertainment,

any examples? or are you just mad there's more PoC and queer people on TV? lmao