charts discussion Demi Lovato's 'Holy ****' debuts with 4.6M streams on Spotify

[Nefertiti0]

2nd day 
total: 3,239,886 (-1,420,036)
 

FREAK	205 681
SKIN OF MY TEETH	219 019
SUBSTANCE	226 221
EAT ME	226 026
HOLY ****	171 045
29	858 733
HAPPY ENDING	203 748
HEAVEN	146 512
CITY OF ANGELS	154 445
BONES	131 926
WASTED	131 979
COME TOGETHER	127 265
DEAD FRIENDS	114 172
HELP ME	103 126
FEED	99 285
4 EVER 4 ME	120 703

 

 

[hypnodemiluv]

5 minutes ago, Selenasworld said:

it wasn't hard i love rock, seeing PATD flopping was a kii, i'm gonna post my ranking on the album thread if you are interested 

that's what making my evening better! thank you @Selenasworld! i'm curious about your picks!   

[PopFan1996]

3 hours ago, Rican said:

Ya hope? Which major label would want to sign her? 

So many would want to actually promote her. Obviously she would be 10 times more successful with playlisting and investment.

It's absolutely a label problem. Shawn, Sabrina all are flopping. And guess what? All of them under the same label.
 

The label is the problem, not Demi. They seem to not invest.
 

Sabrina's last album literally debuted with barely 3M lol

Edited August 21, 2022 by PopFan1996

[Cloudy]

Still confused as to what Scooter did for her

[Delirious]

Definitely labels fault. Literally everyone on the label is flopping hard

 

my poor fave olivia obrien also had to suffer the consequences

[ProudLBS]

3 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said:

2nd day 
total: 3,239,886 (-1,420,036)

less than Love Sux already  3,383,167 (-908,450)

[PlERRE]

We have an ATRL banner for this?

[Selegend]

8 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said:

2nd day 
total: 3,239,886 (-1,420,036)
 

FREAK	205 681
SKIN OF MY TEETH	219 019
SUBSTANCE	226 221
EAT ME	226 026
HOLY ****	171 045
29	858 733
HAPPY ENDING	203 748
HEAVEN	146 512
CITY OF ANGELS	154 445
BONES	131 926
WASTED	131 979
COME TOGETHER	127 265
DEAD FRIENDS	114 172
HELP ME	103 126
FEED	99 285
4 EVER 4 ME	120 703

 

 

Do we know emails i cant send by sabrina 2nd day numbers? Its the same label right? 

[hypnodemiluv]

2 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said:

So many would want to actually promote her. Obviously she would be 10 times more successful with playlisting and investment.

It's absolutely a label problem. Shawn, Sabrina all are flopping. And guess what? All of them under the same label.
 

The label is the problem, not Demi. They seem to not invest.
 

Sabrina's last album literally debuted with barely 3M lol

everything you wrote is true! nowadays nobody with Demi status would start a era without 1 song on tth.. it's not even tth other big playlists (streaming in general)

[lovedaddy]

23 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said:

2nd day 
total: 3,239,886 (-1,420,036)
 

FREAK	205 681
SKIN OF MY TEETH	219 019
SUBSTANCE	226 221
EAT ME	226 026
HOLY ****	171 045
29	858 733
HAPPY ENDING	203 748
HEAVEN	146 512
CITY OF ANGELS	154 445
BONES	131 926
WASTED	131 979
COME TOGETHER	127 265
DEAD FRIENDS	114 172
HELP ME	103 126
FEED	99 285
4 EVER 4 ME	120 703

 

 

A BOMB

Edited August 21, 2022 by lovedaddy

[lovedaddy]

the excuses already for bad streaming numbers in this thread, I-

 

iT's lAbEls fAult, nO pRoMo

 

Edited August 21, 2022 by lovedaddy

[Talento]

26 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said:

2nd day 
total: 3,239,886 (-1,420,036)
 

FREAK	205 681
SKIN OF MY TEETH	219 019
SUBSTANCE	226 221
EAT ME	226 026
HOLY ****	171 045
29	858 733
HAPPY ENDING	203 748
HEAVEN	146 512
CITY OF ANGELS	154 445
BONES	131 926
WASTED	131 979
COME TOGETHER	127 265
DEAD FRIENDS	114 172
HELP ME	103 126
FEED	99 285
4 EVER 4 ME	120 703

 

 

Not a song already below 100k 

[Rican]

15 minutes ago, hypnodemiluv said:

everything you wrote is true! nowadays nobody with Demi status would start a era without 1 song on tth.. it's not even tth other big playlists (streaming in general)

That Sam Smith awful song was #1 on playlist and it was a colossal flop. Demi Lovato is not worth the investment. 

[hypnodemiluv]

1 minute ago, Rican said:

That Sam Smith awful song was #1 on playlist and it was a colossal flop. Demi Lovato is not worth the investment. 

1 song  doesn't mean anything you trying to prove Mr. Rican

[blueberries]

it was bad for them/they

[Rican]

12 minutes ago, lovedaddy said:

the excuses already in this thread, I-

 

iT's lAbEls fAult, nO pRoMo

 

Imagine thinking that a label wants their product to purposely flop despite spending funds on studio time, producer fees, paying fees to have it on streaming services, paying for music videos, physicals, etc. This album and the recording artist attach to it is simply a flop and not worth further investment. She isn’t a revenue bringing in type of product and it’s about time that her remaining fans start having a honest about that. She is not a factor to her label or to the music industry.

[Rican]

12 minutes ago, hypnodemiluv said:

1 song  doesn't mean anything you trying to prove Mr. Rican

It proves alot. The label forked out funds for a feature and for high streaming placement and most likely did not get back the revenue they invested. I clearly remember it at #1 on TTH and it bombed very bad. 

[Temporal]

Such a bummer, the album is really quite good but DWTD (and everything else) really killed her momentum. Hopefully this has longevity

[hypnodemiluv]

12 minutes ago, Rican said:

It proves alot. The label forked out funds for a feature and for high streaming placement and most likely did not get back the revenue they invested. I clearly remember it at #1 on TTH and it bombed very bad. 

[Ms. Togekiss]

BOMB. I hope they flop into oblivion and I never have to hear this person’s name ever again 

Edited August 21, 2022 by Ms. Togekiss

[Rican]

2 minutes ago, hypnodemiluv said:

Her music flopped with label investment and flops without label investment. There is no difference.
 

What exactly do ya want from the label? To keep spending funds until something clicks? The music and the image attach to it simply isn’t profitable.

[allforyou]

Not 4.6 million  She'll be lucky to even do 30K in the US at this point

[Kendi]

4 hours ago, Rican said:

They absolutely do care and they we’re on the album thread and Twitter using the lack of physicals at Walmart excuse for the colossal floppage.  

I don't know what album thread you are reading, but besides the Walmart thing being mentioned once or twice, no one is using it as an "excuse". If anything, the stans have been expecting bad numbers, but since most ppl wanted Rockvato back for a long time and are really enjoying the album, they do know really care about the numbers. But sure, whatever suits your narrative I guess

 

I don't know why the story in this thread is that lovatics are screaming, crying, throwing up about these numbers. Very ATRL to think that an album can only be enjoyed and appreciated if it is financially successful.

 

Besides, you look very dedicated! You know stuff about her career and contract that not even I, a stan know about. Slay I guess

[Rican]

19 minutes ago, allforyou said:

Not 4.6 million  She'll be lucky to even do 30K in the US at this point

Sure she will. Her fan base prior to the release of the album has claimed that she is a pure sales albums artist. 

[Lady Claire]

A disaster

 

This whole era seemed so abrupt. Props for her versality but you just can’t switch that quick and expect people to follow already. She felt like a brand new artist and was counting on her existing fanbase to support… clearly more than half jumped ship, as the singles bombed, the album bombed, the tour is not selling…

 

She needed time to build that new image, this album shouldn’t be released this year. Demi being unlikeable and changing her mind every month doesn’t help either. I think she’s done commercially