Tropez Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 You could stream a song, movie, tv show, video game or e-book and the next day it could be removed. Studios have gone back and changed movies and tv shows to add product placement. Books and games could be removed though you paid full price. On top of that, a show could be canceled and never available again as it may have never been physically released. We are in a phase where some people grew up on streaming and may never know that digital products are licensed for a one time use per stream and could be removed at will. And some are so young they never knew how to pirate. This is one reason the move to all digital is great for companies but bad for people. For instance Google had a video game streaming service. Its shutting down. People who bought games on there are out of luck and may never access them again. Some movies like Star Wars have been edited so much that old physical copies are worth more because they have the originals. Physical mediums cannot die.
Haus Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 I’ve always preferred physical media for a reason. I like having direct access to my favorite content, in the highest quality possible. What irks me more today is the trend of changing media after it’s released. I will never get over the Energy/Kelis situation just feels like nothing is permanent anymore if even music is changing before us.
Totami Legend Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 That’s why I buy my favorite movies on blu ray and use an offline music library
charot Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) That's why I still use torrent. Edited August 17, 2022 by charot
The Next Day Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Eh, in a world of available media content that you would need a dozen lifetimes to consume, I'm not too stressed about it. Sure you have the occassional upset of prominent cases of content removal (e.g. Neil Young and Joni Mitchell recently). But streaming availability will become more and more important. No one would've cared for Running Up That Hill if it wasn't on streaming for the TikTok generation to play with. Artists who refuse to go digitally will have a hard time being remembered. I think the same goes for all kinds of media. Like if you said "It didn't happen if it isn't on streaming". That famous TV show is not available on the services I'm willing to pay for? There are hundreds of other shows to watch. An artist's discography is not on Spotify? I barely have time to listen to all the artists on my bucket list and I have my faves' discographies in physical form, so thank you, next. No attention from me then for your art. So availability is not what I'm worried about cause the costs of non-availability will only grow. Also I'm kinda indifferent towards the opportunity to change things post-release. It's a huge chance when it comes to stuff like the slur-controversy around Lizzo and Beyoncé. The original versions won't be forgotten and are almost always available zo anyone who wants them, but at least the problems can be addressed in a meaningful way. But I'm not a purist anyway, if an artist in any field feels the need to express themselves in post-release chsnges then they should do it. It's their art after all. And it's happened long before streaming as well. Edited August 17, 2022 by The Next Day
James_Dean Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 I'm not really worried when it comes to streaming music, because even in the worst case scenario if certain albums/ tracks are removed from a platform, I can always find them through some method on the internet... Now when it comes to purchasing and streaming films online, I don't like that shady **** that you're only purchasing the license. If I "bought" it, then I bought it. Apple is already is a lawsuit over this situation. https://nofilmschool.com/apple-movie-buys But like someone else said, if I really like a film, I usually will buy some sort of physical media of it- usually a collectior's edition like a steelbook, etc.
magazine Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, Tropez said: For instance Google had a video game streaming service. Its shutting down. No it's not Also, Stadia is barely used by anyone, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
Zaynsus Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 It reminds me of when I wanted to subscribe to Netflix so I could watch Harry Potter and when I finally did (a few weeks later), they were no longer on the service. I was pissed.
Subzero Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Haus said: I’ve always preferred physical media for a reason. I like having direct access to my favorite content, in the highest quality possible. I'd rather digitize my dvds/blurays myself for portability if I wanted it but there's something so much more home-y and fun to pull out the dvd/bluray and watch it over having it accessible from just my phone.
Daydream Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 Absolutely. This is why I still use iTunes and maintain my library to this day. It’s not just about things being removed, but they can also be edited too. Like the Beyoncé album. Two of the songs were edited after release but imo once an album is complete, it’s complete, so I’m glad I still have the original versions of those songs saved.
Haus Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Subzero said: I'd rather digitize my dvds/blurays myself for portability if I wanted it but there's something so much more home-y and fun to pull out the dvd/bluray and watch it over having it accessible from just my phone. Exactly, I watched the entirety of Lost by ripping the Blu-ray discs and watching the 1080p source files on my MacBook. A little work, but the quality was stellar and the best that exists.
Tropez Posted August 17, 2022 Author Posted August 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Next Day said: Eh, in a world of available media content that you would need a dozen lifetimes to consume, I'm not too stressed about it. Sure you have the occassional upset of prominent cases of content removal (e.g. Neil Young and Joni Mitchell recently). But streaming availability will become more and more important. No one would've cared for Running Up That Hill if it wasn't on streaming for the TikTok generation to play with. Artists who refuse to go digitally will have a hard time being remembered. I think the same goes for all kinds of media. Like if you said "It didn't happen if it isn't on streaming". That famous TV show is not available on the services I'm willing to pay for? There are hundreds of other shows to watch. An artist's discography is not on Spotify? I barely have time to listen to all the artists on my bucket list and I have my faves' discographies in physical form, so thank you, next. No attention from me then for your art. So availability is not what I'm worried about cause the costs of non-availability will only grow. Also I'm kinda indifferent towards the opportunity to change things post-release. It's a huge chance when it comes to stuff like the slur-controversy around Lizzo and Beyoncé. The original versions won't be forgotten and are almost always available zo anyone who wants them, but at least the problems can be addressed in a meaningful way. But I'm not a purist anyway, if an artist in any field feels the need to express themselves in post-release chsnges then they should do it. It's their art after all. And it's happened long before streaming as well. I think you’re missing the point that things you purchase could be deleted and you cannot access them. Example, Amazon faced backlash after deleting 1984 after people purchased it. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989048 Also you run the risk of things simply not existing anymore. Because it was never sent on a physical platform. There’s also the issue of censorship.
The Next Day Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Tropez said: I think you’re missing the point that things you purchase could be deleted and you cannot access them. Example, Amazon faced backlash after deleting 1984 after people purchased it. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106989048 Well the thing is the companies never give you the right to own digital purchases indefinetly, technically that even applies to downloaded files. It's an issue, that's true, but there's no way around it and it has existed since iTunes. 16 minutes ago, Tropez said: Also you run the risk of things simply not existing anymore. Because it was never sent on a physical platform. There’s also the issue of censorship. Yeah no. The internet never forgets and the stuff you seek is usually out there minutes after the release of the latest media. Edited August 17, 2022 by The Next Day
Tropez Posted August 17, 2022 Author Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Next Day said: Well the thing is the companies never give you the right to own digital purchases indefinetly, technically that even applies to downloaded files. It's an issue, that's true, but there's no way around it and it has existed since iTunes. Yeah no. The internet never forgets and the stuff you seek is usually out there minutes after the release of the latest media. Yes, that’s the point I already said. Which has been an issue for a long time. The point of streaming and digital copies were to make things convenient, lower pirating, and make greater profits as theres no middle man for physical copies and distribution. While great, it means your product lasts as long as the service holds it. So your purchased digital copy or streamed show could be removed any moment. The issue with pirating is that it sorta sucks. You have to make sure you get what you want with no viruses, use a VPN, and so on. Streaming is simply finding the title and press play, physical is easy to just insert the disk. And all three physical has the highest quality, and pirated movies or shows sometimes dont have the same fidelity as the actual blue ray.
Into The Void Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 I usually rent movies on Amazon anyway if I'm more than likely never gonna watch it again. As for music streaming Spotify has pretty much everything
arceus Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 9:00 PM, Tropez said: Google had a video game streaming service. Its shutting down. People who bought games on there are out of luck and may never access them again. They promised a refund Google keeps killing their products. https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/29/23378713/google-stadia-shutting-down-game-streaming-january-2023
PoisonPill Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 The entire concept of an album is dead. They are now just digital playlists that can be altered and edited at will.
UnusualBoy Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 With music is not much of an issue, you can still get it physically or digitally but when it comes to movie and such, yeah it's annoying that one day they are there and the next they may be gone.
scenekiller Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 This is why I still buy physical copies of albums, movies, games, and shows that I love. Maybe I'm outdated for doing that but I'd rather be "old" and have access whenever I want to the things I really enjoy
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