MingYouToo Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, tshwark said: I wonder why the gp never fell for the hype, so many grammys, radio always playing even when the itunes charts showed demand for other artists, but still never went Diamond, she was everywhere, reminds me of a Pink, always there, but never reaching Adele, Mariah sky high level of dominance. And Adele is already faltering 14 years in. 14 years into her solo career Lemonade was the biggest album WW according to the IFPI. Mariah lasted 10 years and nearly took a half decade of rest and floppage before coming back with TEOM. Beyoncé has been going strong since No, No, No went top 10 in 1997 and is sitting at #7 on the Hot 100 in 2022, 25 years later. Only Madonna among females gets to brag about being in the Top 10 for 25 years. Even then it took Madonna collaborating with 2 of the hottest artists of the time to go top 10 with JT and Timbaland, Beyoncé is in the Top 10 solo with a Big Freedia sample only. Beyoncé may not have the highs of Adele, Mariah or whoever but trust she will still be here once the other artists have gone past their expiry date. Edited July 20, 2022 by MingYouToo
tshwark Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 4 hours ago, MingYouToo said: And Adele is already faltering 14 years in. 14 years into her solo career Lemonade was the biggest album WW according to the IFPI. Mariah lasted 10 years and nearly took a half decade of rest and floppage before coming back with TEOM. Beyoncé has been going strong since No, No, No went top 10 in 1997 and is sitting at #7 on the Hot 100 in 2022, 25 years later. Only Madonna among females gets to brag about being in the Top 10 for 25 years. Even then it took Madonna collaborating with 2 of the hottest artists of the time to go top 10 with JT and Timbaland, Beyoncé is in the Top 10 solo with a Big Freedia sample only. Beyoncé may not have the highs of Adele, Mariah or whoever but trust she will still be here once the other artists have gone past their expiry date. Adele topped the Billboard Hot 100 for 10 weeks, who else is doing that with 14 years in the game, Mariah just went #1 months ago, beyonce is top 10 thanks to radio like always since the beggining, she is the radio queen, in streaming the song is done, and again she debuted in 2003 she was showered with grammys, she was all the time on the radio, yet the gp didnt buy the album, she never had even half of Mariah or Adele dominance, why?
tshwark Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Protocol said: Beyonce didn't go Diamond because when she started her solo career digital sales were taking off which drastically reduced album sales since people could instead cherry-pick the singles, as well as rampant piracy thanks to programs like LimeWire. Hardly anyone was going Diamond in the mid to late 2000s, I believe only Usher did in that whole period. Dangerously in Love still sold 5 million copies, and B'Day and I Am Sasha Fierce both sold over 3 million copies. All three were among the top sellers for their years. The ChartMasters formula attempts to equalize the way albums are viewed across different periods by assigning value based on the revenue created by each album, hence if a standard album costs $11.99, you calculate how many digital singles at $1.29 you need to reach that amount, and then divide by that much however many digital singles they sold that era. Same thing with streams, since you get paid a fraction of a cent per stream. The RIAA uses a very similar methodology for assigning certifications these days. Hits Daily Double and Billboard also use similar formulas now for their albums chart (hence "SEA", "TEA+SEA" and terms like that). In fact, on many occasions HDD has reported a number for an album that exactly matches what ChartMasters arrived at with their methodology, like Harry Styles's last album. So while you would need the label data to have the exact figures, we can be fairly certain that ChartMasters is pretty darn close. At over 20M units and gaining rapidly thanks so strong recurrent streaming, I Am Sasha Fierce may not ever reach Whitney Bodyguard level, but it will be at Whitney Houston/Whitney (her first two albums) level within a decade thanks to streaming. Also, Beyonce had pretty much non-stop smash hit singles since 2000 until 2009, from Say My Name to Halo, every other song she released with DC or solo was a #1 smash, so that argument you bring up is a bit ???? N/A. Unless you were living under a rock, you would've noticed the likes of Say My Name, Survivor, Crazy in Love, Single Ladies, Irreplaceable and Halo are among the iconic anthems of the 2000s decade. Certainly on the same level as many Mariah and Whitney hits. But she was showered with grammys, all the time on the radio, Mathew pushed her as hard as he could, what is it that the gp didnt see, Outkas, Usher, Norah, Britney, Em, Adele proved that it was possible to go Diamond, why she didnt? just that, a simple question.
Shelter Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Don’t feed that troll. He is in every thread. How desperate
Bears01 Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, tshwark said: Adele topped the Billboard Hot 100 for 10 weeks, who else is doing that with 14 years in the game, Mariah just went #1 months ago, beyonce is top 10 thanks to radio like always since the beggining, she is the radio queen, in streaming the song is done, and again she debuted in 2003 she was showered with grammys, she was all the time on the radio, yet the gp didnt buy the album, she never had even half of Mariah or Adele dominance, why? Jesus, trying to read your posts hurts my brain. DIL sold over 10 million WW. That’s a smash album no matter what year. Spell it with me. S-u-c-c-e-s-s
tshwark Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Bears01 said: Jesus, trying to read your posts hurts my brain. DIL sold over 10 million WW. That’s a smash album no matter what year. Spell it with me. S-u-c-c-e-s-s But not in USA, why, what stopped her from that level of success, what went wrong.
Soda Pop Queen Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Xtripped said: She's a ******* LEGEND! pretty much a forgone conclusion. To deny her massive 2 act career is mental illness at this point.
Keith Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 19 hours ago, tshwark said: But she was showered with grammys, all the time on the radio, Mathew pushed her as hard as he could, what is it that the gp didnt see, Outkas, Usher, Norah, Britney, Em, Adele proved that it was possible to go Diamond, why she didnt? just that, a simple question. Outkast only went diamond because Speakerboxx and The Love Below are double discs. It sold about the same as DIL in the states Usher and Confessions is an anomaly. The rest are white so they're irrelevant to Beyoncé.
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