camfuckingrockwell Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) I don’t think Beyoncé will win this time. Beyoncé probably turned off some voters with how many people are involved with Renaissance (credits). Some voters are very snobby like that. Dianne Warren did that weird mess about Alien Superstar having a bunch of writers. Someone like her most likely wouldn’t vote for Beyoncé. I will say Mary J. Blige & possibly Kendrick Lamar could’ve also hurt her chances with gaining votes. Mary J Blige. definitely took a chunk of R&B votes from her. Some R&B voters could’ve voted for Mary since they have an actual R&B Album to vote for. I would say Lizzo too but with a small portion. Music Film being moved to the main telecast doesn’t really mean anything. I would take that with a grain a salt. The Grammys do not care about getting tomatoes thrown at them if Beyoncé loses again. Edited February 3, 2023 by camfuckingrockwell
kandicha Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Jon Snow said: Where can we see which categories are being televised? At the moment we only know that Best Music Film is being televised because one of the nominees (who also happens to be one of the Grammy producers) excitedly posted about it on his Instastory. The rest of the categories that are being televised, we will probably know when the program booklet leaks on Sunday—iirc it usually leaks early in the afternoon like six-ish hours before the Grammys. Someone will probably post about it here but if not check goldderby, they’re always the first with that information.
MAXIMO Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Why are they televising BMF, is that the only award Adele is winning?
Jon Snow Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, kandicha said: At the moment we only know that Best Music Film is being televised because one of the nominees (who also happens to be one of the Grammy producers) excitedly posted about it on his Instastory. The rest of the categories that are being televised, we will probably know when the program booklet leaks on Sunday—iirc it usually leaks early in the afternoon like six-ish hours before the Grammys. Someone will probably post about it here but if not check goldderby, they’re always the first with that information. Thanks If they don't televise any of the R&B categories, Renaissance is winning big
Triton Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, kandicha said: At the moment we only know that Best Music Film is being televised because one of the nominees (who also happens to be one of the Grammy producers) excitedly posted about it on his Instastory. The rest of the categories that are being televised, we will probably know when the program booklet leaks on Sunday—iirc it usually leaks early in the afternoon like six-ish hours before the Grammys. Someone will probably post about it here but if not check goldderby, they’re always the first with that information. I think they were joking/being sarcastic about moving the category. Id still like to know which ones they’re airing.
Triton Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, Jon Snow said: Thanks If they don't televise any of the R&B categories, Renaissance is winning big Same with Dance. If they do those on the main telecast, that will be Beyonces spot and we are doomed for the GF awards. Same with R&B song, any other R&B ones could also be a spot for MJB to get in stage. Lizzo is near by the stage as well.
Ms. Togekiss Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Beyonce really does not deserve AOTY this time around. She was robbed with Lemonade, but renaissance is not worthy of AOTY. I see a harry or Adele sweep. Hoping Brandi wins AOTY, Taylor SOTY, Lizzo ROTY, Lizzo Pop Solo, pop duo/group is HORRIBLE this time around and anyone but ABBA winning is a massive L, Lizzo pop vocal, Beyonce dance recording, Beyonce dance album, etc
enchanted0 Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Why aren’t they going back to Staples Center (did the name changed? Idk) this tiny ass stage again…
camfuckingrockwell Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, enchanted0 said: Why aren’t they going back to Staples Center (did the name changed? Idk) this tiny ass stage again… It’s not called the Staples Center anymore
Attaboy Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, camfuckingrockwell said: I don’t think Beyoncé will win this time. Beyoncé probably turned off some voters with how many people are involved with Renaissance (credits). Some voters are very snobby like that. Dianne Warren did that weird mess about Alien Superstar having a bunch of writers. Someone like her most likely wouldn’t vote for Beyoncé. I will say Mary J. Blige & possibly Kendrick Lamar could’ve also hurt her chances with gaining votes. Mary J Blige. definitely took a chunk of R&B votes from her. Some R&B voters could’ve voted for Mary since they have an actual R&B Album to vote for. I would say Lizzo too but with a small portion. Music Film being moved to the main telecast doesn’t really mean anything. I would take that with a grain a salt. The Grammys do not care about getting tomatoes thrown at them if Beyoncé loses again. Keep in mind though, there was a leadership overhaul in 2021. I think we saw a hint of it last year but change takes time and I am cautiously optimistic they will make it right this year, with Bey especially Besides, doesn’t hurt that Harvey Mason Jr has worked with her before If not, All I Ask is please not the ballad lady Would be an egg in the face of the new leadership and show they haven’t done anything to move the needle
Lovett Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: Beyonce really does not deserve AOTY this time around. She was robbed with Lemonade, but renaissance is not worthy of AOTY. I see a harry or Adele sweep. Hoping Brandi wins AOTY, Taylor SOTY, Lizzo ROTY, Lizzo Pop Solo, pop duo/group is HORRIBLE this time around and anyone but ABBA winning is a massive L, Lizzo pop vocal, Beyonce dance recording, Beyonce dance album, etc The best album of her career and the most critically acclaimed album (by FAR) of the year isn't worthy of AOTY? Sure.
Ayanaa Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) If anyone deserves AOTY it's ABBA. Bey's subpar discography doesn't even come remotely close to the timelessness of ABBA's pop perfection. And yes i'm talking discographies as a whole, becuase it seems that the people want beyonce to win because she has been ''snubbed'' last couple times, so this one should ''make up for it'' Edited February 3, 2023 by Ayanaa
camfuckingrockwell Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Attaboy said: Keep in mind though, there was a leadership overhaul in 2021. I think we saw a hint of it last year but change takes time and I am cautiously optimistic they will make it right this year, with Bey especially Besides, doesn’t hurt that Harvey Mason Jr has worked with her before If not, All I Ask is please not the ballad lady Would be an egg in the face of the new leadership and show they haven’t done anything to move the needle True to that but the voters are going to vote for what they feel is the BEST in each category regardless , new leader or not. They literally don’t care and some pool of voters have big biases. It will take time for them to progress to a new type of winner. The closest Beyoncé ever came to winning AOTY was with I Am Sasha Fierce . Honestly, I think she could’ve won if she had submitted SL to ROTY instead of Halo. That probably could’ve persuaded voters to let her do a clean sweep but it’s water under the bridge now lol.
Dark Poet Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 ABBA for the win! I need Harry/Adele/Beyonce to get snubbed in all categories.
Ms. Togekiss Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, MrLovett said: The best album of her career and the most critically acclaimed album (by FAR) of the year isn't worthy of AOTY? Sure. Is Lemonade!
Lovett Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said: Is Lemonade! That's her second best.
GreatestLoveofAll Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 If i could do what i see is most likely from the narrative of the media and social media and Grammy history and what they say they are pushing for AOTY: Renaissance SOTY: Bad Habit/Just Like That (might be a sort of upset they have in the wings) ROTY: As It Was BNA: Latto Pop Vocal Album: 30 Pop Solo: About Damn Time
Shelter Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: Beyonce really does not deserve AOTY this time around. She was robbed with Lemonade, but renaissance is not worthy of AOTY. I see a harry or Adele sweep. Hoping Brandi wins AOTY, Taylor SOTY, Lizzo ROTY, Lizzo Pop Solo, pop duo/group is HORRIBLE this time around and anyone but ABBA winning is a massive L, Lizzo pop vocal, Beyonce dance recording, Beyonce dance album, etc But Harry’s House and 30 is?
Folklore89sm Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 I do think Renaissance is a bit of a step down from Lemonade which was robbed. Getting the AOTY would be a consolidation prize but if the Grammys want to keep any respect, they better not rob her again and give it to Adele.
Attaboy Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, camfuckingrockwell said: True to that but the voters are going to vote for what they feel is the BEST in each category regardless , new leader or not. They literally don’t care and some pool of voters have big biases. It will take time for them to progress to a new type of winner. The closest Beyoncé ever came to winning AOTY was with I Am Sasha Fierce . Honestly, I think she could’ve won if she had submitted SL to ROTY instead of Halo. That probably could’ve persuaded voters to let her do a clean sweep but it’s water under the bridge now lol. Let’s not pretend the Academy has ever had a fully democratic voting process or ever will. Nor should it, some of these voters are morons and have very selective taste, which is not conducive to a fair vote in the GF field especially I am saying at least now there are people at the top who can…. apply pressure, shall we say, to make sure mediocre **** doesn’t keep getting rewarded Edited February 3, 2023 by Attaboy
FAN Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 Jay Z announced as a performer. Beyoncé has got to be performing too.
FAN Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) Full Performers List Fridayy Lil’ Wayne Rick Ross John Legend Jay Z DJ Khaled Stevie Wonder Chris Stapleton Smokey Robinson Bonnie Raitt Harry Styles Anoushka Shankar Kim Petras Mary J Blige Sam Smith Lizzo Steve Lacy Brandi Carlie Luke Combs Bad Bunny I’m sure a lot of these people are performing together but the Grammys Instagram doesn’t specify in their announcements. Edited February 3, 2023 by FAN
KatyPrismSpirit Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, FAN said: Full Performers List Fridayy Lil’ Wayne Rick Ross John Legend Jay Z DJ Khaled Stevie Wonder Chris Stapleton Smokey Robinson Bonnie Raitt Harry Styles Anoushka Shankar Kim Petras Mary J Blige Sam Smith Lizzo Steve Lacy Brandi Carlie Luke Combs Bad Bunny I’m sure a lot of these people are performing together but the Grammys Instagram doesn’t specify in their announcements. we need adele and beyoncé to perform....
dabunique Posted February 3, 2023 Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, MrLovett said: That's her second best. Her best is self titled. Everything else after is trash compared to it
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