discussion Latin American people: "You're not a Latino if you don't speak Spanish"... thoughts?

[Hidden]

21 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said:

You lose the latino status when:

-You have Latino roots but don't speak spanish (or portuguese)

-You live in a first world country s and start prioritizing first world country lifestyles/people/culture instead of defending your roots

-You start justifying first world economies and their neocolonialism just because you can buy iphones and drink Starbucks everyday.

 

 

 

Your 2nd and 3rd points are so poorly chosen… As if countries in Latin America are entirely miserable and ppl don’t have access to “lifestyles, culture, iPhones and Starbucks”. There is misery, no doubt, but your stereotypic American-centered judgement completely ignored we live in a global era. Prejudice, basically

[venuss]

I feel like it's not about not speaking Spanish or Portuguese, but the fact a couple years ago those same Latinos were rejecting their language and culture until it became trendy and profitable. I think that has hurt "latam latinos" a lot. 

[bliaz]

20 minutes ago, nsst said:

brazilians joined the chat 

 

6 minutes ago, 1DES said:

So Brazilians aren't considered Latino.

Brazil is the exception, they live in Latin America, this applies mostly to those born/raised in the U.S. of Latino parents and have become detached from their roots and do not speak Spanish/Brazilian Portuguese but only say they are Latino because "it's trendy".
 

Edited June 22, 2022 by bliaz

[Summerboy95]

2 minutes ago, Hidden said:

Your 2nd and 3rd points are so poorly chosen… As if countries in Latin America are entirely miserable and ppl don’t have access to “lifestyles, culture, iPhones and Starbucks”. There is misery, no doubt, but your stereotypic American-centered judgement completely ignored we live in a global era. Prejudice, basically

I'm south american. I speak from experience . 

[Hidden]

Just now, Summerboy95 said:

I'm south american. I speak from experience . 

Self hating thoughts then. What you described is the definition of inferiority  complex. 

[bliaz]

32 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said:

You lose the latino status when:

-You have Latino roots but don't speak spanish (or portuguese)

-You live in a first world country s and start prioritizing first world country lifestyles/people/culture instead of defending your roots

-You start justifying first world economies and their neocolonialism just because you can buy iphones and drink Starbucks everyday.

 

 

 

[Summerboy95]

1 minute ago, Hidden said:

Self hating thoughts then. What you described is the definition of inferiority  complex. 

You're entitled to your wrong interpretation 

 

 

[KnightOfAllRealms]

Asians should start doing this too..those so called 3rd gen American descendants of Asian immigrants used to look down upon Asians and our struggles for so long but now are claiming back their origins and want to act opressed because of the diversity politics happening in US right now. **** them

[bliaz]

2 minutes ago, Hidden said:

Self hating thoughts then. What you described is the definition of inferiority  complex. 

But what they say it's true 

[bliaz]

10 minutes ago, venuss said:

I feel like it's not about not speaking Spanish or Portuguese, but the fact a couple years ago those same Latinos were rejecting their language and culture until it became trendy and profitable. I think that has hurt "latam latinos" a lot. 

This.

[Summerboy95]

Imagine thinking you're Latino when you don't understand the language + you don't live the real problems colonialism + neocolonialism caused in your country/region... 

 

We, Latinos, don't have the privilege to use the latino card as a cool factor but being ignorant about our roots when living comfortable in a first world country.

 

[Gerardo]

You can be latino without speaking Spanish, like Brazilians, or just people that never learned it

however, I agree that nowadays white Americans find out their great grandfather was latin and then they start saying they’re Latinos 

Imo to be latin you need to have a strong connection and knowledge of your culture and ethnicity, like for example Lele pons is NOT Latina, but Jlo is 

[Happylittlepunk]

As a latino I am just going to say. I don’t agree with op videos that you are not latino just cause you can’t speak Spanish or Portuguese. Many kids who grew up not knowing how to speak those languages it comes down to the parents. They didn’t grew up in a household where Spanish was common to speak. I won’t ever use it against someone who sees themselves latino or wants to get closer to there Hispanic/latino side even if they are mix or white washed and say “your are not Latinos”. 
 

 

[Gov Hooka]

16 minutes ago, KnightOfAllRealms said:

Asians should start doing this too..those so called 3rd gen American descendants of Asian immigrants used to look down upon Asians and our struggles for so long but now are claiming back their origins and want to act opressed because of the diversity politics happening in US right now. **** them

THIS! 
there’s a trend among brown girls/guys to claim oppression when they’re so disconnected from their roots. Speaking about the desi community. Like it’s super cringe to make superficial claims to the identity when you’re 2nd/3rd Gen but not actually make efforts to participate or emulate the culture. I usually eyeroll about identity politics because it’s so divorced from actual class analysis and seeing these mainly upper middle class brown ppl cosplaying their identity (whether it’s Punjabi, Bengali, Tamil, etc.) when they can’t even speak the ******* language.  

Edited June 22, 2022 by Gov Hooka

[Hallad173]

1 hour ago, fentypark said:

they made some points. i’m black but i don’t refer to myself as african-american bc neither me nor my parents have any close familial ties to africa. 

 

and this may be problematic but i question the blackness of black americans who don’t understand aave 

Very problematic.

[EriKills]

16 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said:

Imagine thinking you're Latino when you don't understand the language + you don't live the real problems colonialism + neocolonialism caused in your country/region... 

 

We, Latinos, don't have the privilege to use the latino card as a cool factor but being ignorant about our roots when living comfortable in a first world country.

 

  wtf even is this argument, do you really think all Latinos living in a first world country are devoid of socioeconomic issues?  

[Power love]

[lillavend3r]

It's true idk !

Only way you could speak spanish and not be latino is if youre from spain 

[Ramona16]

I just don’t think people who haven’t lived in LATAM experience the same things as people who do. It’s brutal out here 

[KnightOfAllRealms]

37 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said:

THIS! 
there’s a trend among brown girls/guys to claim oppression when they’re so disconnected from their roots. Speaking about the desi community. Like it’s super cringe to make superficial claims to the identity when you’re 2nd/3rd Gen but not actually make efforts to participate or emulate the culture. I usually eyeroll about identity politics because it’s so divorced from actual class analysis and seeing these mainly upper middle class brown ppl cosplaying their identity (whether it’s Punjabi, Bengali, Tamil, etc.) when they can’t even speak the ******* language.  

Exactly my aunt used to tell us that she purposefully refrained from teaching her kids in the US our native language because it's tacky & useless and says she only hangs out with YT families back there and those kids who are so disconnected from their roots will probably claim themselves to be Desis ? this is why I can't take it seriously when people in the West say Simone Ashley or charithra etc are "Indian" representation in Media ? how tf do they represent us when they don't speak the language or don't know anything about our culture

Edited June 22, 2022 by KnightOfAllRealms

[Great808]

I just get a big kick out of alot of Latino people that just pride themselves on being that when they’re just White people speaking a different language than what the White people of other countries speak. Thats why I refuse to label myself as that, I know as person of Mexican descent most of my heritage is Indigenous af, with that said I’ve been Indigenous for thousands of years and only Hispanic for the past few hundred. 
 

On that note, Latino/Hispanic are NOT races and only ethnicities, you can be any race in the world and be Latino if you’re part of that culture. 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Great808
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[loliza]

Oh c'mon they're cringey but right. How many singers love to release albums in spanish saying they love their culture without speaking 1) a word of the language 2) never before have talked about that culture or defended latinos. Just because it's trendy and they want to take advantage od it without being accused of cultural appropriation because they have a latin sound surname.

Edited June 22, 2022 by loliza
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[DoubleRainbow!]

My problem is how they're dragging people like Becky G, who is obviously mixed race, the entire family are Mexicans, grew up connected to the Mexican culture and speaks amazing Spanish but Selena Quintanilla gets a pass ?

[yeezytaughtme]

A few points were made. But if they don’t speak spanish, they really shouldn’t be called latinos. Oh well

[ToMmY]

I'm kinda torn because I think both sides have some points.

 

I'm a latino but at the same time I'm a french who doesn't speak french, so you can see what I'm coming from. I don't know how I would feel if another french person told me I'm not a real french for not speaking french.

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by ToMmY