More Than A Melody Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, idkwiam said: IDWLF is her biggest hit in Spotify despite minimal promo That’s not her biggest hit on any planet it just has more streams than her biggest hits because those songs weren’t on Spotify when they were hits. I don’t think anyone even remembers IDWLF since it was rarely performed live. I do think overexposure is real. But not that it means you can suddenly flop. It just means that your image is less favorable, and Drake has suffered from that. A lot of people take him less seriously or have a negative opinion on him now, a lot more than a few years ago, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbitch Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) It’s really never been a thing. The opposite… see: Rihanna. She became the Rihanna the pop icon that way. I don’t like her much but Ariana in a way too. All the big pop girls took long ass breaks and she took advantage that doesn’t mean it has never happened tho. Edited June 17, 2022 by Superbitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotunda Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Overexposure is about your public image more so than the frequency of your music. It’s just that when you’re constantly in the midst of an era there’s more opportunities for something to happen that turns people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepfon Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, jezebelvictoria said: He's not really overexposed though. He may release a lot of music but other than that, he's not plastered over every magazine, appearing on every TV show, on every red carpet, and everything else that comes with "exposure". This is very true, he is not performing at every award show and attending all the events, like some other rappers/popstars do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeofTeeth Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 he definitely drives home the point that quantity is not better than quality, I'll give him that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkwiam Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rotunda said: Overexposure is about your public image more so than the frequency of your music. It’s just that when you’re constantly in the midst of an era there’s more opportunities for something to happen that turns people off. Basically this. For example Taylor was overexposed in 2012-16 because of her life being plastered all over the media. 50 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: That’s not her biggest hit on any planet it just has more streams than her biggest hits because those songs weren’t on Spotify when they were hits. I don’t think anyone even remembers IDWLF since it was rarely performed live. I do think overexposure is real. But not that it means you can suddenly flop. It just means that your image is less favorable, and Drake has suffered from that. A lot of people take him less seriously or have a negative opinion on him now, a lot more than a few years ago, at least. It's her biggest hit in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The gp likes him and he delivers, gods plan was massive and he was 10 years in the game already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Overexposure is not a myth. Also, Drake is not overexposed. Overexposure comes from having massive long lasting hits and then continuing to release without a break. Drake’s last album didn’t even have any massive long lasting hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The public does not obsess about men the same way it does with women so it is much more challenging for a male artist to be overexposed. also, you would need to be at around Britney in 2002 or Taylor in 2015 level to really have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Than A Melody Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, idkwiam said: Basically this. For example Taylor was overexposed in 2012-16 because of her life being plastered all over the media. It's her biggest hit in Europe. It’s literally not. Shake It Off is 3x Plat in the UK, Blank Space, Love Story, and IKWYT are all 2x. IDWLF is Platinum. It peaked at 5, 10 of her songs peaked higher than that. And the UK is Europe’s biggest market (and the one Taylor performs best in in Europe). It did well in some European markets, and considering she’s not big in those markets overall it might look bigger than it actually is, but it’s nowhere near her biggest or most remembered hit overall. I would even argue that LWYMMD is bigger and more remembered. It’s a moot point anyway because I agree that overexposure doesn’t have any effect on how an artist performs commercially. It’s just annoying that the overall opinion is negative, but it happens to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, idkwiam said: Rihanna literally pulled a hit every from 2005 to 2018. Tbh, I think Rihanna and her team did a lot of things to actively avoid overexposure. The first 2 albums don't count since she was still picking up steam, but from GGGB on, she was constantly transforming and changing sounds and looks to keep people interested. Plus, her single rollouts became less intensive over time. TT and UA were like half-eras, single wise. After WFL smashed, she barely promoted YDO, she didn't shoot a video for TTT or BC remix and neither of those were pushed to pop. WHYB basically re-started (and closed) the era. And the Unapologetic era basically ended after the first 2 singles too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 no i'm afraid. https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=331931&title=NEW-RELEASES%3A-DRAKES-HONEST-SURPRISE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Welp. Well it looks like he truly is overexposed and now is underperforming as a result. 210-230k would be a success if it was most other artists, but for Drake, this is an underperformance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugarysunflower Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 3:30 PM, jezebelvictoria said: He's not really overexposed though. He may release a lot of music but other than that, he's not plastered over every magazine, appearing on every TV show, on every red carpet, and everything else that comes with "exposure". On 6/17/2022 at 3:25 PM, dirrtydiana said: He’s not overexposed people need to get it through their heads charts don’t matter especially now with streaming. The gp doesn’t even look at them and how is he overexposed if the last actual mainstream hit he had was the kiki challenge (?) apart from some features, his hits have been pretty evenly spread out best I ever had 08 find your love 09 what’s my name? 2010 the motto 2011 hold on we’re going home 2013 hotline bling 2015 work 2015 pasionfruit 2017 Kiki 2018 This. He just drops and dips. He doesn’t do big interviews, his videography is forgetful, he doesn’t promote via performances, he doesn’t aggressively tour, he’s not even really played on the radio as much anymore, and his albums are not lauded which would put him on more publishing outlets…..which is exactly what atrl’s expect off their MPGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetkiss Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 he isnt overexposed. he was literally hiding his baby for some time. hes hiding himself in general unless hes about to release an album. he doesnt perform. he doesnt do million photoshoots. he doesnt do interviews. he doesnt tweet. he doesnt say anything controversial. he isnt chased by paparazzi. he isnt fashion icon. people are not checking to see what boots is he wearing. hes literally in his house all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetkiss Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 12:32 PM, byzantium said: The public does not obsess about men the same way it does with women so it is much more challenging for a male artist to be overexposed. also, you would need to be at around Britney in 2002 or Taylor in 2015 level to really have an issue. LOL. justin bieber says HI. he eats sandwich its national news https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3229336/Justin-Bieber-bites-massive-Subway-sandwich-traipsing-NYC.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorIce Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Truly the Ed Sheeran of rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwide angel Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 i wouldn't say overexposure doesn't exist. i would argue that drake is overexposed but the effects of said overexposure aren't harming him stats wise. enough people streamed his album to get decent numbers but so far its been getting mixed reviews on social media i guess if you have enough members of the general public checking for you + a strong consumer base, you'll never flop ( i.e. abel, taylor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, worldwide angel said: i wouldn't say overexposure doesn't exist. i would argue that drake is overexposed but the effects of said overexposure aren't harming him stats wise. enough people streamed his album to get decent numbers but so far its been getting mixed reviews on social media i guess if you have enough members of the general public checking for you + a strong consumer base, you'll never flop ( i.e. abel, taylor) dawn fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwide angel Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, fridayteenage said: dawn fm i would consider that more an underperformance than a straight out flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 No. I don't think this is really a bad omen for him as it's an experimental album that's not in the vein of the generic, trend-hoppy music he's conditioned his fans to worship him for and stream to death, but not letting any of his projects breathe is going to hurt him in the long run. He was a lot more respected and anticipated of an artist when there were periods of pause and now we get about a three month breathing period between him dropping something. And even that is being generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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