Dialamba Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) I get it she wants to be taken seriously and release quality music. But that’s still not a valid excuse, judging by most pop girls you look at their debut albums, and most of them aren’t good and just here to launch their career. The important songs were the singles, the rest are just fillers. Ariana, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Dua etc released their best projects after many years, and when they reached their A-statue. Imagine if they had this mentality they would have gone nowhere. Normani has been in the industry for over a decade, and she still considered NEW while Doja debuted at the same time and was less popular until 2020 now she is already a superstar. To have quality music you have no choice but to release more music until you find your sound then you can allow yourself to have this perfectionist mentality. Edited June 6, 2022 by Dialamba
Boysdontcry Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 I do feel for her fan base, it would drive me insane waiting all those years for a project. Reminds me of Madison Beer. I just can’t believe she let the 2019 hype slide, even if she wouldn’t of debuted at #1, she probably could’ve secured a top 10-20 debut album.
Cbreezy Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 Love her and am heavily invested in her "launch", but this is all kinds of BS. It's the type of BS that I get that "has" to say (as she probably can't say the truth), but is BS nonetheless. She had me at the whole "artist development" spiel. BUT...artists are ultimately thrown in at the deep end a lot and simply have to figure it out. Find themselves and adjust realtime. Assuming fans or the industry at large will wait for an artist to "develop" behind the scenes after dropping a single that said artist and label decided to release themselves shows a scary lack of understanding of how all this ish works. She and her team put product out in the marketplace and have basically been dropping the ball since. She isn't in a position to keep half-stepping a launch. One can only be "new" for so long. Beyond her own odd antics (like having zero social presence until she has music to drop), the poor girl most likely has been in the middle of mess at the label and has management that isn't positioned to mitigate the matter better. We all keep screaming about RCA, but she was principally signed to Keep Cool as part of a joint venture which now seems to not exist as the main guy bounced to Def Jam. She just switched publisher too. So there is definite change that probably is more technical and tricky to articulate than she's in a position to share with the casual audience. So she's going with this perfected development BS that is more suited to the 90s than the (sad) TikTok, instant-grat era we live in now. I actually am more from the school of what she's talking about, but she's an artist in 2022 not 1992 and so must adapt and move accordingly.
kyliefever2002 Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 i do get the "i want everything to be perfect" talk, but then again, whys she claiming that the album will be released every now and then? this woman has "confirmed" the album was coming at least three different summers
orange22 Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Nicholai said: All that process and time to grow up and find her sound just to release that flat song titled Fair? M'am you are not Kate Bush. Release your debut album and flop with dignity girl.
Totami Legend Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, magazine said: you are shameful to the AVAtars community, let me just tell you that what has ava to do with this
magazine Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Totami Legend said: what has ava to do with this exactly
Power love Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 To be fair, she probably has five-shelved-albums worth of material, ddd.
Totami Legend Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, magazine said: exactly I never mentioned her here? I actually care about this album, Fair was cute and I'm sure she can deliver a great r&b lush album
itsmee Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, magazine said: Guys, let's cut the bs. She flopped and her label/team doesn't wanna release the album. Obviously she can't go around giving PR and exposing her label for not wanting to release music. Or exposing herself for only wanting sucess, that doesn't make any sense. She will continue this narrative for her own sake and protection. That's just logic. This isn't her trying to blame/lie/pretend, it's just how business work. Stop expecting something else. I don't know what world y'all live in. this she wants to save face so bad I said it from day 1 this girl never had it, and was never going to be a superstar even if they tried really hard , and pushed her down our throats she is musically untalented, boring, lacks charisma literally she is lacking in everything the only thing she can do is dance but even that is generic and boring and if the lack of skills and charisma wasn't enough she completely lacks originality or artistry, the only thing she knows how to do is copy paste, first she tried it with beyonce and than Aliyah/Janet Jackson and her last attempt was copying her peers like SZA and Summer Walker the amount of promo and push this girl got just to end up nowhere is unbelivable at this point if her album came out it would prob do less than indie artists, I think even 10k would be a generous estimate and again no one would drag her if she kept it cute but she is was running her mouth self-proclaiming herself as an icon and saying she wanted to be "the one" she got no one but herself to blame
Sugar-Rush Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 What's the point of the label withholding the album? The songs were already produced and recorded, so why not simply release it? Even if the album flops, it'll at least make some revenue.
dirrtydiana Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 Years from now we will find out Normani got jc chasezed and a now canceled racist ex band member sabotaged her
KasioKas Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, #Beautiful said: the most moronic thing i read all day "i did a lot of growing up" and youre gonna do a hell lot more growing up from the pre order of an album to it's release day, what the **** is this
popularmoonlight Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, psychodj said: The way none of the fifth harmony girls (with the exception of Camilia) have released an album genuinely pissed me off, and that’s coming from a big fan of the group. Like…what happened? I was (especially) rooting for Dinah and Normani and the former has just disappeared off the face of the earth and the latter keeps delaying the album. Sometimes I think they can't release albums bc of a contract. It's weird none of them got an album out. ATRL just loves to keep their eyes on Normani so much and say no one cares or remembers hers, but then this thread was created 3 hours ago and its already at 5 pages
Cloudy Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, popularmoonlight said: Sometimes I think they can't release albums bc of a contract. It's weird none of them got an album out. ATRL just loves to keep their eyes on Normani so much and say no one cares or remembers hers, but then this thread was created 3 hours ago and its already at 5 pages Didn't Lauren just go independent and release an EP
Theshigo Washidu Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Camilitau.u said: This are all key buzz words for: Sabotage. Kelly literally used the same narrative about finding herself while they were pushing hard for Yoncé and diming her light so she wouldn’t blow up. If the label wanted her to release an album she would’ve had one during Motivation but the industry is trying to push her out. Sorry, but what is there to gain from pushing her out? Did she piss someone off?
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, UnusualBoy said: Girl, just release the album already, this nonsense of I'm releasing something I'm confident about and my art and prefer quality over quantiy is bs, otherwise she wouldn't have released these past 2 songs which aren't the best example of quality Yeah, also artists are not supposed to release their best body of work as their debut ever, you are supposed to grow after. She should not be expecting to release her magnum opus rn. I have a feeling she will wait ages between every album with this same excuse.
Theshigo Washidu Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, itsmee said: this she wants to save face so bad I said it from day 1 this girl never had it, and was never going to be a superstar even if they tried really hard , and pushed her down our throats she is musically untalented, boring, lacks charisma literally she is lacking in everything the only thing she can do is dance but even that is generic and boring and if the lack of skills and charisma wasn't enough she completely lacks originality or artistry, the only thing she knows how to do is copy paste, first she tried it with beyonce and than Aliyah/Janet Jackson and her last attempt was copying her peers like SZA and Summer Walker the amount of promo and push this girl got just to end up nowhere is unbelivable at this point if her album came out it would prob do less than indie artists, I think even 10k would be a generous estimate and again no one would drag her if she kept it cute but she is was running her mouth self-proclaiming herself as an icon and saying she wanted to be "the one" she got no one but herself to blame To be fair, there are and have been quite a lot of successful or here today-gone tomorrow artists like the bolded, including ones who a lot of ATRL members stan. If they can eat, Normani should be allowed to eat too. 1 hour ago, Sugar-Rush said: What's the point of the label withholding the album? The songs were already produced and recorded, so why not simply release it? Even if the album flops, it'll at least make some revenue. I assume that the producers and/or songwriters won't get paid for their track unless they're an established producer like Max Martin for example who would demand an upfront fee before working with him.
lovely88 Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 Debut albums are not usually the masterpiece, people develop their artistry/sound as they grow.
80x100 Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, sk8erfan said: I can’t stand hearing her speak about this album anymore 3 hours ago, MadonnasBoyfriend said: I knew she was gonna go with the perfectionist bs .
Thinking Of You Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 WheresJay in here fighting for their life Spike Lee and Quincy Jones themselves can drive down from their Hollywood Hills mansions to come work on her entire debut era and yet no one will still care because no one is interested and she’s missed her window for good. Give it up Deelishes
getback Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, bocelli said: The way Camila has like three hit albums already not you setting Camila up
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