discussion Labor unions & NAACP slam Biden's $10k forgiveness plan as "too little"

[Communion]

 

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Communion

[Raver]

Not too little 

No one forced anyone to take out massive student loans. Be glad 10k is even being considered 

[QueenBeyoncé]

I don’t know whose advising Biden but he needs to fire them fast. 

[fauxtography]

1 hour ago, Raver said:

Not too little 

No one forced anyone to take out massive student loans. Be glad 10k is even being considered 

Its weird. Like, student loan forgiveness has never realistically been on the table, imagine fighting a hypothetical number.

[karron0624]

3 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

Its weird. Like, student loan forgiveness has never realistically been on the table, imagine fighting a hypothetical number.

Its kinda transparent how the thread was made. I cam this morning when it was announced to see the discussions, and no one even posted a thread. Come back later and first thread posted is about how it is terrible.

 

Like (1) no one forced anyone to take out student loans, and (2) full forgivenesses was never on the table. At least this covers interest for a lot of people and gets them back to their original balance.

[ClashAndBurn]

I doubt it actually even goes through, considering neoliberals believe that any amount of debt relief is regressive. Let alone the fact they will cry that not enough people are means-tested out of eligibility. Anything over a $40k individual income cutoff would be too much for them.

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Raver said:

No one forced anyone to take out massive student loans.

 

54 minutes ago, karron0624 said:

Like (1) no one forced anyone to take out student loans,

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noun

1. the state of being extremely poor.

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[Bosque]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

 

pov·er·ty

/ˈpävərdē/

Learn to pronounce

 

noun

1. the state of being extremely poor.

   "thousands of families are living in abject poverty"

    

    

    

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Similar:

   penury

    

    

   destitution

    

    

   indigence

    

    

   pennilessness

    

   privation

80 Jobs That Pay Over $50K and Don't Require a Degree | U.S. Career Institute (uscareerinstitute.edu)

[Pheromosa]

10k would literally make a huge difference for me, what is wrong with these people 

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, Dephira said:

80 Jobs That Pay Over $50K and Don't Require a Degree | U.S. Career Institute (uscareerinstitute.edu)

"Commercial Pilot"

 

"INsTeAD Of wHiNiNg, wHY noT jUst LeARn tO fLY pLANEs?? "

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Communion

[Bosque]

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

"Commercial Pilot"

 

"INsTeAD Of wHiNiNg, wHY noT jUst LeARn tO fLY pLANEs?? "

 

"Instead of accomplishing in real life, why not quote 1 line of a ranking with 50 spots just so I can feel more victimized, and ignore all other 49 lines that contradict my invented view of life?" 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Dephira

[Communion]

1 minute ago, Dephira said:

 why not quote 1 line of a ranking 

It's literally the number one recommended job on the list you provided??

 

Sis this is like illiteracy. 

[Bosque]

Just now, Communion said:

It's literally the number one recommended job on the list you provided??

 

Sis this is like illiteracy. 

"A ranking with 50 jobs is provided"

 

You: reads line 1

 

Also you: this is all the information I need ?

[Jotham]

The white girl in the OP getting clowned and dragged in the Twitter replies

[GhostBox]

19 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

10k would literally make a huge difference for me, what is wrong with these people 

Exactly. Alot of people will be very happy with 10k forgiveness. 

[GhostBox]

7 minutes ago, Jotham said:

The white girl in the OP getting clowned and dragged in the Twitter replies

I just read it ?? seems like the majority don’t agree with her 

[Communion]

24 minutes ago, Dephira said:

"A ranking with 50 jobs is provided"

 

You: reads line 1

 

26 minutes ago, Communion said:

It's literally the number one recommended job on the list you provided??

 

Sis this is like illiteracy. 

Girl what do you think TOP means? 

 

Or would you like to go over the other suggestions? Like SPORTS STAR or NUCLEAR PLANT EQUIPMENT OPERATOR?? 

 

The fact that you can't see the absurdity is wild because I genuinely have never seen someone so sure that their conservative worldview is right despite just not being rooted in reality. Nearly everything you post is either just not rooted in fact or reality. 

 

The list you provided features the vast majority of jobs that, despite not requiring a degree, will end up giving preferential treatment to someone with a degree, especially in managerial roles, or are trade jobs that require years of either apprentice work or years of trade and technical school. 

 

Spoiler: Student debt from technical schools acount for hundreds of millions of dollars of the total federal student debt.  In fact, those who graduated from trade schools have a tougher time and take longer to pay off their debt than those from traditional colleges. 

 

Another spoiler: Nearly 40% of people with student loans DONT HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE!  And yet Biden's plan does nothing for these people who are not high income earners and whose average debt far exceeds the $10k figure that has literally been plucked from thin air. 

 

You have such a concrete worldview of education and debt yet repeatedly display a lack of any kind of understanding of what the societal utility of education is. You think you're one-uping people by telling them to go into lines of work that have literal physical limitations on them. Or do you think everyone has the physical capacity to be a *checks your list* SOLAR PANEL ROOF INSTALLER?? 

Edited May 27, 2022 by Communion

[Communion]

29 minutes ago, Jotham said:

The white girl in the OP getting clowned and dragged in the Twitter replies

 

22 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

I just read it ?? seems like the majority don’t agree with her 

Not 5 KHive and pro-Biden reply bots being in the reporter's mentions for a relatively low engaged twent being considered "getting clowned" (spoiler: tweets are shared because the actual content is communicative of essential ideas, not if they have numerous replies or not ). I wonder why users who gaslight people about Biden's failures are most interested in that and not the reaction to the president of the NAACP slamming Biden for choosing to leave over 3/4ths of black borrowers in debt. 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Communion

[Price of Fame]

If this 10k forgiveness comes with restarting payments then it's literally just worse for most people. Most people owe more than 10k and restarting monthly payments (especially now when inflation is out of control) is going to hurt

 

good luck in those midterms still  

[Mr.Marvelous]

44 minutes ago, Dephira said:

80 Jobs That Pay Over $50K and Don't Require a Degree | U.S. Career Institute (uscareerinstitute.edu)

So people aren't allowed to choose their own career if they're poor?

[Armani?]

1 hour ago, xclusivestylesz said:

There's a certain group of people that won't ever be content with anything. Give them a million dollars and they'll post on Twitter saying 'that's it' ??‍♂️

This is such a dumb analogy 

[Armani?]

4 hours ago, Raver said:

Not too little 

No one forced anyone to take out massive student loans. Be glad 10k is even being considered 

 

2 hours ago, fauxtography said:

Its weird. Like, student loan forgiveness has never realistically been on the table, imagine fighting a hypothetical number.

The median Black household wealth is predicted to be 0$ by 2050, & 0$ for Latino households in 2070

 

This is a policy & societal economic issue, not a individual problem where a few people in a particular situation made a bad decision dumbasses

[Bosque]

13 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

 

Another spoiler: Nearly 40% of people with student loans DONT HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE!  

Maybe they should have finished college then

[Communion]

5 minutes ago, Dephira said:

Maybe they should have finished college then

You can just say you hate poor people, it's literally fine to be open about that and not pretend otherwise.

 

You can't argue there's tons of great ways to have enough money to live without college and then turn around and mock that figure of what is largely non-college educated parents who could only afford to send their kids to school through things like Parent-Plus loans. 

 

Just say it. Just own up to it. It's better to own up to having the worldview of a cartoon movie villain than pretending to be a voice anyone should consider listening to re: student debt.

Edited May 28, 2022 by Communion

[Martyr Of Fame]

So you piss off the people you’re helping and the people you’re not helping?  

 

This is why people don’t do ****. It’s never enough.