Somnambulist Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 The biggest issue with “now is not the time” is that these mass shooting are happening weekly at this point (some more severe than others) We will be stuck mourning the entire time instead of DOING SOMETHING.
TYMPS Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 I’m not sure she even knows what she’s saying. Just regurgitating talking points to sound like “not like the other gals” A bird
Abracadabra Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, luckythisway said: She’s right. It’s unfortunate that the only time gun discussions arise are after a mass shooting. We should be mourning the losses of life, not shoving our selfish beliefs down everyone’s throats. There’s plenty of time to have these conversations and actually change legislation in this country, but politicians only want to talk about their “agendas” when there’s a mass shooting in the headlines. So wanting to prevent children being murdered at school is a "selfish belief" and an agenda Truly worms for brains... If after a mass shooting isn't the right time to discuss this, how is there ever going to be discussed, considering there is a mass shooting almost every day in America? The gun control issue is not going to change regardless of conversation. Pro-gun people don't care about children being murdered enough for it to change. The opportunity and the ability to stop it from happening is there and they choose not to take it. The conversation doesn't change anything whether we talk about it after a shooting or not. People are entitled to be angered about the fact that once again the selfishness of the pro-gun mob has resulted in more innocent lives being lost, and also when the victims own family members are giving interviews to the press begging for reform in gun laws. But what pro-gun imbeciles need to not do is ask people not to talk about it by pretending they care about the grieving families and the lives of children being lost. They don't care, and using the victims as a way of shielding themselves from criticism when at this point pro-gun people are fully complicit in these tragedies, is the epitome of ****** up. It shouldn't even be a political issue. You either care about kids being murdered or you don't. Full stop. Edited May 26, 2022 by Miichael
Lucas32 Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) Political issues require political solutions. These "don't politicize X" talking points about issues that are inherently political are always so braindead. The trauma of the individuals involved in a shooting is obviously very real and we can all be empathetic, but as outsiders it's much more pressing to ask how to prevent these things in the first place. If a house burns down in a fire because of bad safety regulations, you discuss and push for better regulations. You don't wait around for the next one to burn. Edited May 26, 2022 by Lucas32
Apolonio ₃₄ Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, Bhabylon said: She clarified what she meant, and is for gun reform For those still feeling a bit obtuse.
Lady Claire Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 If it was another certain female rapper i think this thread would make sense but Cardi isn't conservative and she already cleared up on what she meant
CandleGuy Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bhabylon said: She clarified what she meant, and is for gun reform Good lord No points were made and no English was spoken here.
cyclone Posted May 26, 2022 Author Posted May 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lady Claire said: If it was another certain female rapper i think this thread would make sense but Cardi isn't conservative and she already cleared up on what she meant All facts At the end of the day I'd rather her support the NRA than support the anti vax movement like the older female rapper did, it has more deaths behind it. And I agree that I don't think Cardi is conservative
Into The Void Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, cyclone said: Do you guys agree with what she had to say? I am a bardigang and she may just be ignorant but I found her comments questionable at best, she always prides herself on being "political" but when its time for true change to actually happen she wants to side with republicans to give "thoughts and prayers". Words are not enough... Please keep all replies respectable, mature, and serious. i understand where shes coming from cause the families of these kids are suffering right now and asa man she can understand
fountain Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 I think her point was misunderstood because the “agenda” argument can just as easily be applied to the republicans who are using this as an opportunity to manipulate with their own talking points, mainly in regards to guns but also a lot of transphobic rhetoric too.
ALA Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 Wtf, political views should be discussed to help move towards something. Brushing it under the rug and just grieving ain't doing anything moving forward unfortunatelu
smartalek22 Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 Her Nicki Minaj icon of the Alt-Right era is upon us, waiting for the FOX appraisal and dismissal of the WAP controversy
chhalamars Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 She wasnt very articulate but I (think) get her. The people who lost their relatives, friends there are still processing this awful violence. Society and politicians need to be careful with what they do and say.
Bad_vocal_technique Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 America loves their damn guns for some reason huh.
xfreshkidxx Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) who listens to her for political advice or any shes an embarrassment Edited May 26, 2022 by xfreshkidxx
GotMyBlueprint Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 Maybe she's referring to stupid bullshit, thoughtless posts like this all over twitter "Show the carnage & chunks of what used to be a child" for the sake of getting retweets... Can you imagine being a parent, sibling, relative, etc and reading blunt **** like this when you literally just lost your child about 24 hours ago? Before anyone tries it, **** no am I pro-guns or w/e, and I agree with doing the most possible that can be done to protect the public from senseless gun violence, but the way people blurt out stupid **** in this manner is absolutely ****** up.. Think and review before you hit post on something that could be disrespectful. and no I don't stan Cardi, so miss me with any stan non-sense.. the horrifying impact this has left on the victim's families goes far beyond petty non-sense
RunUpDoneUp Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 She's crazy inarticulate, I don't think she meant bad but god is reading her tweets a chore sometimes. What she's doing is using the feelings of victims as a buffer for her own comfort level: no one has to care or cater to your sensibilities. America is headed towards more children being killed, things aren't looking up, quite the opposite. So no, cardi, people don't have to operate with consideration for the victims in the event because not only are they not political pundits, their social pressure is required to swing the pendulum left. Republicans are the ones who benefit from not being emotional about gun violence because they're the ones who cause and in the event of mass shooters, endorse it.
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