Pop Art Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Thoughts, why, surprised, etcetera? Playlist Reach + Daily Streams Taylor Swift 1989: 103.6M (3.8M Daily Streams) Lover: 99.6M (3.5M Daily Streams) Red: 82.6M (1.1M Daily Streams) Red (Taylor's Version): 70M (3.7M Daily Streams) evermore: 59.6M (2.1M Daily Streams) folklore: 59.1M (2.9M Daily Streams) reputation: 53.6M (3.3M Daily Streams) Speak Now: 43.4M (1.7M Daily Streams) Fearless: 40.3M (750K Daily Streams) Fearless (Taylor's Version): 33.9M (1.8M Daily Streams) Taylor Swift: 21.2M (489K Daily Streams) Rihanna Good Girl Gone Bad: 111.9M (1.9M Daily Streams) Anti: 86.4M (2M Daily Streams) Unapologetic: 83.5M (1.3M Daily Streams) Talk That Talk: 75.5M (960K Daily Streams) Loud: 66.8M (1.4M Daily Streams) A Girl Like Me: 65.1M (348K Daily Streams) Music of the Sun: 49.6M (329K Daily Streams) Rated R: 33.9M (362K Daily Streams) Adele 30: 188.1M (3.4M Daily Streams) 21: 108.3M (2.3M Daily Streams) 25: 100.7M (2.1M Daily Streams) 19: 76M (785K Daily Streams) Ariana Grande My Everything: 106.5M (1.6M Daily Streams) thank u, next: 90.6M (2M Daily Streams) Positions: 88.1M (2.8M Daily Streams) Dangerous Woman: 69.8M (1.6M Daily Streams) Sweetener: 60.7M (1.3M Daily Streams) Yours Truly: 25.9M (460K Daily Streams) Dua Lipa Future Nostalgia: 242.6M (6.7M Daily Streams) Dua Lipa: 160.4M (3.5M Daily Streams) Camila Cabello Familia: 242.8M (4M Daily Streams) Romance: 93.8M (1.4M Daily Streams) Camila: 60.5M (834K Daily Streams) Katy Perry Teenage Dream: 142.8M (2.6M Daily Streams) One of the Boys: 80.2M (841K Daily Streams) Prism: 77.1M (1.3M Daily Streams) Smile: 71.8M (736K Daily Streams) Witness: 22.7M (280K Daily Streams) Beyoncé I Am...Sasha Fierce: 113.7M (1.1M Daily Streams) Dangerously In Love: 81.5M (802K Daily Streams) B'Day: 61.2M (442K Daily Streams) 4: 53.3M (604K Daily Streams) Beyoncé: 42.8M (680K Daily Streams) Lemonade: 25.4M (505K Daily Streams) Lady Gaga The Fame Monster (Deluxe): 95.1M (2.3M Daily Streams) Chromatica: 92.6M (880K Daily Streams) A Star Is Born: 65.3M (1.7M Daily Streams) Born This Way: 42.2M (768K Daily Streams) Joanne: 21.1M (382K Daily Streams) ARTPOP: 15.9M (322K Daily Streams) Billie Eilish WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO?: 124.6M (3M Daily Streams) Happier Than Ever: 91M (3.9M Daily Streams) dont smile at me: 45.3M (3.2M Daily Streams) Nicki Minaj Pink Friday...Roman Reloaded: 59.1M (765K Daily Streams) The Pinkprint: 50M (834K Daily Streams) Pink Friday: 46.3M (798K Daily Streams) Queen: 32.3M (504K Daily Streams) Selena Gomez Rare: 66.7M (819K Daily Streams) Revival: 34.1M (527K Daily Streams) Stars Dance: 16.9M (202K Daily Streams)
Cloröx Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 The most impressive ones are folklore, Don't Smile at Me and Reputation
Freakshowvato Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Interested to see how much playlist reach DEMI has and why it getting 800K streams a day despite being 10 year old album lol
Freakshowvato Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Familia: 242.8M (4M Daily Streams) The streaming payola is insane..... how does she even have this much playlist reach
Jude Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 TOTALS: 1. Taylor Swift - 11 albums - 666.8M 2. Rihanna - 8 albums - 572.7M 3. Adele - 4 albums - 473.1M 4. Ariana Grande - 6 albums - 441.6M 5. Dua Lipa - 2 albums - 403M 6. Camila - 3 albums - 397.1 7. Katy Perry - 5 albums - 394.6M 8. Beyonce - 6 albums - 377.9 9. Lady Gaga - 6 albums - 332.2 10. Billie Eilish - 3 albums - 260.9M 11. Nicki Minaj - 4 albums - 187.7M 12. Selena Gomez - 3 albums - 117.7 Average: 1. Dua Lipa - 201.5M 2. Adele - 157.7M 3. Camila - 132.3M 4. Billie Eilish - 86.97M 5. Katy - 78.92M 6. Ariana Grande- 73.6M 7. Rihanna - 71.59M 8. Beyonce - 62.98 9. Taylor Swift- 60.62M 10. Lady Gaga - 55.36M 11. Nicki Minaj - 46.92M 12. Selena Gomez - 39.23M
Icarus Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jude said: Average: 1. Dua Lipa - 201.5M 2. Adele - 157.7M 3. Camila - 132.3M 4. Billie Eilish - 86.97M 5. Katy - 78.92M 6. Ariana Grande- 73.6M 7. Rihanna - 71.59M 8. Beyonce - 62.98 9. Taylor Swift- 60.62M 10. Lady Gaga - 55.36M 11. Nicki Minaj - 46.92M 12. Selena Gomez - 39.23M Taylor so low and still demolishing everyone
VioletsandRoses Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jude said: TOTALS: 1. Taylor Swift - 11 albums - 666.8M 2. Rihanna - 8 albums - 572.7M 3. Adele - 4 albums - 473.1M 4. Ariana Grande - 6 albums - 441.6M 5. Dua Lipa - 2 albums - 403M 6. Camila - 3 albums - 397.1 7. Katy Perry - 5 albums - 394.6M 8. Beyonce - 6 albums - 377.9 9. Lady Gaga - 6 albums - 332.2 10. Billie Eilish - 3 albums - 260.9M 11. Nicki Minaj - 4 albums - 187.7M 12. Selena Gomez - 3 albums - 117.7 Average: 1. Dua Lipa - 201.5M 2. Adele - 157.7M 3. Camila - 132.3M 4. Billie Eilish - 86.97M 5. Katy - 78.92M 6. Ariana Grande- 73.6M 7. Rihanna - 71.59M 8. Beyonce - 62.98 9. Taylor Swift- 60.62M 10. Lady Gaga - 55.36M 11. Nicki Minaj - 46.92M 12. Selena Gomez - 39.23M Dua Lipa #1 haha. Taylor doing well amazing. Any numbers for Lana?
KOMHStan13 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) I don't really think you can take these numbers at face value, so I calculated every album's playlist reach vs. streams ratio. Here we can see the most payola'd albums relatively seem to be from Rihanna and Beyonce, while the lesser payola'd albums seem to be from Taylor Swift, Dua Lipa, and Billie Eilish. Really interesting to me. In fact, Taylor and Billie occupy the ENTIRE bottom 10. A Girl Like Me 187.07 Music of the Sun 150.76 B'Day 138.46 Chromatica 105.23 I Am... Sasha Fierce 103.36 Dangerously In Love 101.62 Smile 97.55 19 96.82 One of the Boys 95.36 Rated R 93.65 4 88.58 Stars Dance 83.66 Rare 81.44 Witness 81.07 Talk That Talk 78.65 Pink Friday... RR 77.25 Red OG 75.09 Camila 72.54 Romance 67.00 My Everything 66.56 Revival 64.71 Unapologetic 64.23 Queen 64.09 Beyonce 62.94 Familia 60.70 The Pinkprint 59.95 PRISM 59.31 Good Girl Gone Bad 58.89 Pink Friday 58.02 Yours Truly 56.30 30 55.32 Joanne 55.24 Born This Way 54.95 Teenage Dream 54.92 Fearless OG 53.73 Lemonade 50.30 ARTPOP 49.38 25 47.95 Loud 47.71 21 47.09 Sweetener 46.69 Dua Lipa 45.83 thank u, next 45.30 Dangerous Woman 43.63 Taylor Swift 43.35 ANTI 43.20 WWAFA 41.53 The Fame Monster 41.35 A Star Is Born 38.41 Future Nostalgia 36.21 positions 31.46 Lover 28.46 evermore 28.38 1989 27.26 Speak now 25.53 Happier Than Ever 23.33 folklore 20.38 Red TV 18.92 Fearless TV 18.83 reputation 16.24 dont smile at me 14.16 Edited May 25, 2022 by KOMHStan13
Icarus Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said: Dua Lipa #1 haha. A shock to us all
istan4badgalriri Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 What percentage of these albums’ playlist reach is editorial vs user-generated ? Otherwise that’s a useless list/thread
Sad Serenade Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Selena Gomez Revival: 34.1M (527K Daily Streams) Even camila cabello has more playlists than this album with 3 consecutive Top 10 hits and another moderate hit. Interscope is so weak.
wantedyoutogrow Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Jude said: Average: 1. Dua Lipa - 201.5M damn!
Steve Johnson Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Damn! DUA. 400 million+ playlist reach for only 2 albums. Taylor smashing with little support. Poor folklore and evermore.
Souvenir Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, Sad Serenade said: Selena Gomez Revival: 34.1M (527K Daily Streams) Even camila cabello has more playlists than this album with 3 consecutive Top 10 hits and another moderate hit. Interscope is so weak. ikr? this explains everything
OrgVisual Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 This list is hardly accurate Let's take some examples: 1989 Shake It Off: 60.2M playlist reach Blank Space: 55.1M playlist reach Those two combined are already higher than the one listed in the OP Future Nostalgia Levitating: 109M Don't Start Now: 80.2M Break My Heart: 42.1M Love Again: 35.1M These 4 alone are higher than the stat in the OP I don't even bother with the rest
Dr.Cake Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Sept said: This list is hardly accurate Let's take some examples: 1989 Shake It Off: 60.2M playlist reach Blank Space: 55.1M playlist reach Those two combined are already higher than the one listed in the OP Future Nostalgia Levitating: 109M Don't Start Now: 80.2M Break My Heart: 42.1M Love Again: 35.1M These 4 alone are higher than the stat in the OP I don't even bother with the rest Maybe it is because you can’t count the reach for every specific song if two or more songs from the same album are featured on the same playlist? Like…if both Levitating and DSN are on the same playlist they only count once for FN’s playlist reach…
OrgVisual Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr.Cake said: Maybe it is because you can’t count the reach for every specific song if two or more songs from the same album are featured on the same playlist? Like…if both Levitating and DSN are on the same playlist they only count once for FN’s playlist reach… And how does it affect streams? If Levitating and DSN in the same playlist and 1 user listens to that playlist from start to finish, it counts as 2 streams for FN Album daily streams is made up of cumulated streams of all the album tracks. But u don't want to double count for playlist reach? Like...
Pop Art Posted May 25, 2022 Author Posted May 25, 2022 @Sept this is the second playlist thread you've angrily dismissed the methodology I've shown, and both used different methodologies (number of editorial playlists and actual playlist reach). Would you care to offer a better solution on how to calculate playlist's impact on streams? Because those are the only two measurements we have I believe. I'm all ears.
Selegend Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Selena's long-term playlisting is a joke. Her team is kinda great on marketing but they really just release and forget it all about it. They really only care for it on the release week, that's their game. [they do give her covers and stuff] but like even #1 (on spotify WW, USA and Hot 100) stable hits like Lose You To Love Me they've failed to keep on TTH for a solid time.. just saw smaller hits like LISA's Money or Billie's Happier Than Ever (i love both of them, used this example cuz it's same label) on TTH for +7months [maybe even more??] and LYTLM stayed 3 months. her daily streams are actually really good for her playlisting. LYTLM for example never did less then 400k daily streams and we're already in 2022. anyway... Edited May 25, 2022 by Selegend
OrgVisual Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Pop Art said: @Sept this is the second playlist thread you've angrily dismissed the methodology I've shown, and both used different methodologies (number of editorial playlists and actual playlist reach). Would you care to offer a better solution on how to calculate playlist's impact on streams? Because those are the only two measurements we have I believe. I'm all ears. Because your data is simply incorrect. And the comparison between number of playlists an artist / album appears on and the number of cumulated streams is simply illogical, you are literally comparing orange with apple. Besides from what I already pointed out, there're a lot of other factors at play to "calculate playlist's impact on streams" - Positions of such tracks on the playlist (being at the very top has different impact than being at the very bottom) - Number of Spotify-curated playlists vs users playlists vs chart playlists (Spotify Global 50 already has 16M reach for example) - Number of active users in that playlist (for example, if only 2M users listen to TTH on a daily basis, its impact is not greater than a playlist with 10M total listeners but 3M active listeners) Unfortunately these data is not available for free users / non-industry people. Now, not to mention daily streams fluctuate, and the margin error could be significant when a random track gains virality (Tik Tok, being used on a TV show, etc.). At face value, the most sensible comparisons would be (even though the confidence level would still be around 50-60% max): - Playlist reach of a song vs its streams - Cumulated playlist reach of all the songs in an album vs its cumulated streams - Cumulated playlist reach of all the songs of an artist vs their discography streams
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