charts discussion Chartmasters updates formula; ready to clock fake YouTube views and Chinese sales

[DoubleRainbow!]

Who cares about this site?? 

[boyamama]

  On 5/20/2022 at 12:13 AM, sasashite said:

To fix this flaw, from now on, featured acts, combined when there are several, will be allocated 50% of singles’ formats units. The lead singer will still get 100% of the total as before.

Thus, if a song has one featured singer, he will get 50% of the singles’ formats units. If there are 4 featured acts yet, each will get a fourth of these 50%, meaning 12.5%.

 

Rihanna, Xtina, Drake and some others about to decrease quite a bit. 

As they should tbh. Featured artists getting 100% of the units is pathetic.

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the only big xtina feat. is MLJ.

say something and lady marmalade is duet....

[supertiffany]

  On 5/20/2022 at 12:59 AM, PopFan1996 said:

Adele's catalog already increased by 3.5 million units to 97,4M with this new rule change. 

With 30's pure sales that have yet to be counted, she definitely already hit the 100M mark and she did that with only 4 albums. 

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[Rev8]

  On 5/20/2022 at 2:52 PM, DoubleRainbow! said:

Who cares about this site?? 

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Like..at least half of ATRL several years back

now it's used pretty often, especially when LMs and Swifties stopped attacking it for stuff that Chamrtasters "fixed"

 

imo the formula's accuracy wasn't as bad before

but now the results make it more evident that something is wrong

 

Still a pretty good place to get some info on artists' stats somewhat, since it's pretty close to what the OG is (even with the accusations that MJD underrates figures and is biased)

[Eternium]

They still need to fix South Korean free downloads/streaming farms and completely remove fabricated Chinese numbers. But it is a huge step in the right direction  

[hoax]

  On 5/21/2022 at 12:18 AM, Eternium said:

They still need to fix South Korean free downloads/streaming farms and completely remove fabricated Chinese numbers. But it is a huge step in the right direction  

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Not this again 

[RihFenty20]

This site is really making things up as it goes.

 

I'll still use it for raw data since that seems pretty accurate but CSPC is a bunch of fabricated nonsense and streams should never be compared/combined/converted to raw sales. They're completely different metrics. Plus, they clearly have no standardized way of weighing them. 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

I'm really not here for some unauthorized organization to come up with formulas by themselves. 

[biebsus]

Why is there such a massive change in the estimation on Chinese streams? The numbers i see for certain song when they had previous method (with Xiamoi streams as an Index figure) is almost 10 times different than the numbers they've estimated using QQ Music.

[aesthetic bih]

Taylor actually benefitting from this. She WON just like in everything she do!

[Stuart]

I just checked the list on Chartmasters' website and it looks like everyone's numbers went up ?

[Diocles]

Poor Katy

[Eternium]

  On 5/21/2022 at 12:23 AM, wastedpotential said:

 

Not this again 

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The Chinese government had to step in and regulate them because they were so fake. That’s saying something  

  On 5/21/2022 at 4:44 AM, RihFenty20 said:

This site is really making things up as it goes.

 

I'll still use it for raw data since that seems pretty accurate but CSPC is a bunch of fabricated nonsense and streams should never be compared/combined/converted to raw sales. They're completely different metrics. Plus, they clearly have no standardized way of weighing them. 

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It’s good for a charting source to be malleable. Remember how the Official Charts Company accidentally posted a fake sales number for an album from The Beatles and then, instead of correcting it, just used the new number going forward? Stuff like that is way worse than updating formulas.

  On 5/21/2022 at 10:56 AM, Zaynsus said:

I just checked the list on Chartmasters' website and it looks like everyone's numbers went up ?

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I don’t think it will be an automatic update. They’ll have to redo everyone’s numbers manually to adjust.

[WildHeart]

  On 5/21/2022 at 2:55 PM, Eternium said:

The Chinese government had to step in and regulate them because they were so fake. That’s saying something  

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It didn't step in because they were fake, it did to stop mass buying. Just read the article 

[Into The Void]

  On 5/20/2022 at 12:13 AM, AlexStexaul said:

china sales always seemed fraud to me. 

its couldnt get more irrevelant than that counting sales from that unofficial reports. 

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Chinese sales are way more than people think i mean it has over 1b residents 

[Protocol]

  On 5/21/2022 at 4:44 AM, RihFenty20 said:

This site is really making things up as it goes.

 

I'll still use it for raw data since that seems pretty accurate but CSPC is a bunch of fabricated nonsense and streams should never be compared/combined/converted to raw sales. They're completely different metrics. Plus, they clearly have no standardized way of weighing them. 

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They do it based on revenue and so does the music industry. That's how certifications are now given.

[Steve Johnson]

They should remove Orphan section next. 

[Yuanyu]

  On 5/21/2022 at 4:14 PM, Steve Johnson said:

They should remove Orphan section next. 

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More than orphan, features